The Only Colors: An SB Nation Community

Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
New Blog: Along The Olentangy for Ohio State Fans!

Linking Laconically is learning how to rush the QB

  • MSU freshman tight end getting a look on defense | lansingstatejournal.com | Lansing State Journal
    Make sense to give Dion Sims a look at defensive end given the glut of tight ends.
  • Safety Roderick Jenrette to miss rest of regular season; Spartans juggle lineup | MSU Spartans - - MLive.com
    Marcus Hyde to start.
  • MSU's Kirk Cousins gets 'aggressive treatment for injured ankle | detnews.com | The Detroit News
    On account of his "aggressive" run toward the end zone Saturday.
  • Spartans guarding against letdown vs. Illinois | MSU Spartans - - MLive.com
    Going for 3-0 in post-Michigan games under Mark Dantonio.
  • Michigan's Forcier issues mea culpa for loss - Big Ten - ESPN
    Don't beat yourself up over it, Tate.
  • Do Recruiting Class Ratings Matter? - The Daily Gopher
    Yes, they do.
  • 2009-2010 Team Previews: Michigan State - The Slipper Still Fits
    Gonzaga blogger concerned about bringing young team in to Breslin so early in the season.
  • Andy Katz's Daily Word: DePaul's Jerry Wainwright knows the heat is on - ESPN
    Can we go big against Texas and UNC?
  • Scout.com: Payne Likes What He Saw At Michigan State
    Subscriber-only, but the headline sounds positive.
  • Season preview: A first glance at the U-M and MSU hockey teams | It's Just Sports - MLive.com
    "Young" and "middle of the pack" are the two main descriptors for MSU.
  • In the Corners: My Pre-Season CCHA Picks
    In the Corners agrees about the "middle of the pack" thing.
  • 0 recs  |  Comment 10 comments |

    Story-email Email Printer Print

    Comments

    Display:

    I still think MSU trails Kentucky and West Virginia for Payne but he’d be a great addition and take the 2010 class up a whole level.
    FYI, he has officials remaining for WVU, Kansas, and Arizona. The idea seems to be to visit Kansas last for Halloween, decide, and sign early.

    by intrpdtrvlr on Oct 6, 2009 10:51 PM CDT reply actions  

    Crap

    That really sucks about Jenrette. He was really improving as he played this year. I hope he has a speedy recovery.

    by DrDetroit on Oct 7, 2009 6:08 AM CDT reply actions  

    Recruiting Rankings

    Yes, recruiting rankings do matter, but the chart he created isn’t a 100% accurate.

    The problem with recruiting rankings is that they are not ever adjusted. So, Michigan last year gets credit for 5 Star Ryan Mallet and 4 Star Justin Boren. Neither of whom were on the team.

    Looking at Michigan State, this year’s Seniors (signed in 2006) are supposed to be DE Ervin Baldwin, DT J’Michael Deane, QB Connor Dixon, DE Patrick Rigan, DB Ken Tinney, DB Nehemiah Warrick, and WRs Devin Thomas and T.J. Williams.

    Outside of Devin Thomas, I have never heard of any of them.

    by DrDetroit on Oct 7, 2009 6:21 AM CDT reply actions  

    For real?

    Come on- Baldwin was half of our fantastic pass rush in 2007! Warrick delivered that KO hit to Wisconsin’s Kyle Jefferson in Madison that year!

    by Z.K. on Oct 7, 2009 7:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

    Yup, no idea who they are

    I really didn’t start following college football that close until last year.

    CPT Hoolie posted in another thread that Baldwin was a JUCO transfer, so he wouldn’t be here this year, unlike what I indicated above. He still would count toward the overall rating being used this year in that analysis.

    by DrDetroit on Oct 7, 2009 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

    Fair point on recruiting rankings

    Warrick was also a JUCO who was a two-year starter at SS.

    John L. lived by the JUCO, and he did bring in some good players that way. (Baldwin, Domato Peko, Devin Thomas) Coach D has only signed one JUCO to a scholarship, now-senior DT Michael Jordan, who contributed some last year, but hasn’t seen much time in 2009.

    J’Michael Deane was in the mix to start on the o-line this year, but got hurt in camp. Connor Dixon was a dual threat style guy who was the backup QB in 2007 and then transferred to I-AA Duquesne. T.J. Williams was the best WR in 2006, but got in trouble off the field and played only some in 2007 at CB. Then, was academically ineligible for the Champs Sports Bowl and got the boot. Found a home at Valdosta State. Not sure on Rigan and Tinney.

    by witless chum on Oct 7, 2009 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

    JUCOs = Death

    Recruiting JUCOs is a feast and famine prospect for college football teams.

    I think Bill Snyder did a lot of that at K State and his program would dominate one year and die the next. The turnover of players is just too significant for a program to handle.

    One year a kid learns the system, the next year he has a great season, then he’s gone. A lot different than bringing in someone, redshirt or not, develop for two years then play for two/three years.

    by DrDetroit on Oct 7, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

    Don't forget the Sackmaster...

    Jonal St.-Dic!

    JUCO transfers can occasionally serve as a quick fix to plug holes. It’s the closest thing to free agency in college football.

    by CPT Hoolie on Oct 7, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

    In 2007...

    …our starting D-line was three JUCOs (Baldwin, St. Dic, Ogembi Nwagbuo) and one four-year recruit, Justin Kershaw. Not an ideal situation for the program, but we sure got some good pressure on QBs that year.

    It’s possible to bring in a talented few, like Saban did, without doing it too much and hurting the team. Too many, though, and DrDetroit is right.

    by witless chum on Oct 7, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

    Comments For This Post Are Closed


    User Tools

    A Michigan State basketball and football blog community
    Start posting about the Spartans »

    Join SB Nation and dive into communities focused on all your favorite teams.

    Connect_with_facebook

    FanPosts

    Community blog posts and discussion.

    Recent FanPosts

    Small
    Recruiting data
    Adorno5_small
    Mike Shaw and 2011 Basketball Recruiting Loose Ends
    State_small
    Recruiting Tidbits
    Small
    Donavon Clark!
    Small
    Personal expectations when an MSU football schedule is announced.
    Delvonduck_small
    UM's NCAA Allegations, As Told Through "The Office"
    Small
    Big Ten Divisions
    Small
    Recruit #14 Jack Allen
    Small
    South Carolina-MSU is part of ESPN's 24 hour hoops marathon
    State_small
    Positional Revisionism and MSU Basketball

    + New FanPost All FanPosts >

    SBNation.com Recent Stories

    Florida State's Christian Ponder, left, runs as Miami's Marcus Robinson gives chase during the first quarter of an NCAA college football game Monday, Sept. 7, 2009, in Tallahassee, Fla. (AP Photo/Phil Coale)

    2010 ACC College Football Preview: Deep Conference Should Make For Highly Competitive Season

    Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany speaks in Lincoln, Neb., Friday, June 11, 2010, in front of a Big Ten and a Nebraska backdrop. Nebraska made it official Friday and applied for membership in the Big Ten Conference, a potentially crippling blow to the Big 12 and the biggest move yet in an off season overhaul that will leave college sports looking much different by this time next year.(AP Photo/Nati Harnik) +5 updates

    Big Ten Announces Conference Divisions For 2011

    FILE - In this Sept. 24, 2009 photo, South Carolina's head coach Steve Spurrier stands with his quarterback Stephen Garcia (5) before the start of their NCAA college football game against Mississippi at Williams Brice Stadium in Columbia, S.C.    A year ago, first-time postseason starter Stephen Garcia got chewed out by South Carolina coach Steve Spurrier for playing video games the night before the Outback Bowl game. These days, Garcia putting all his focus where it counts most _ on the Gamecocks.  (AP Photo/Mary Ann Chastain, File)

    College Football Kickoff: 2010 Season Gets Underway With Southern Mississippi At South Carolina

    More from SBNation.com >


    Managers

    Onlycolors-md_small KJ@theonlycolors

    Sbnation2_small Pete Rossman

    Woodward_small LVS

    Contributors

    Square_sun_small Steve Hendershot

    Adorno5_small intrpdtrvlr

    Oldspartan_small Rob Visconti