Houdini Act: Michigan State 75 Gonzaga 71
First off, that's an excellent Gonzaga team--a team that's only going to get better as the season goes on. I was skeptical that their new starters up front could be major offensive threats. I was wrong. Robert Sacre and Elias Harris combined for 34 points on 28 FG attempts. I had hoped the MSU big men could play the Gonzaga big guys even, but it wasn't even close. Green/Roe/Nix/Sherman combined for just 14 points.
And Matt Bouldin and Steven Gray are playmakers. As fantastic as the plays Durrell Summers made on offense late in this game were, the defense he and Allen played on Bouldin and Gray throughout the game may have actually been the key factor in escaping with the win. Bouldin/Gray combined to shoot just 8 of 29 from the floor. If one or both of those guys is allowed to get hot, MSU probably has no chance to come back and win this game.
As it was, it took every ounce of moxie the Spartans had to come back from the early hole they dug for themselves. The hope had been that a young Gonzaga team would come out and be overwhelmed by the Bresin Center atmosphere. But quite the opposite scenario played out in the early minutes. MSU turned the ball over 10 times in the first 11 minutes of the game en route to falling behind by double digits.
They scrapped their way back to within 5 points at the half, struggled to get over the hump in the second half as the Bulldogs seemingly had an answer for everything the Spartans threw at them, and finally landed the big punch in the final four minutes, closing the game on a 10-4 run.
Three players accounted for 56 of MSU's 75 points (official box score is here):
- I expected almost nothing from Raymar Morgan tonight, after how poorly he played in the opener. Thankfully, my expectations were way off. He showed up big tonight, playing with an aggressiveness and composure the rest of the team was sorely lacking early in the game. He finished with 16 points on 10-11 FT shooting and 5 rebounds in 22 minutes, shaking off a pretty significant-looking sprain to his right (previously healthy) ankle late in the second half. Also: He got absolutely hosed on that 5th foul--and the 4th one was pretty questionable, too.
- Kalin Lucas didn't have his A game tonight--a lot of floaters in the lane that didn't have much chance to go in. Yet he still posted a decently-efficient offensive line: 19 points (on 16 FG attempts), 5 assists, 3 turnovers. And this was nice:
GOOD! LAYUP by Lucas, Kalin [PNT] 00:39 73-70 H 3
- Durrell Summers. The human highlight reel: Multiple twisting mid-range makes, stupendous-vertical-leap blocked shot, huge 3-pointer to take the lead with 3 minutes to go, two absolutely pure free throws to seal the deal. 21 points on 8-9 (!) FG shooting, 11 rebounds. Player. Of the game.
The contributions were much less consistent among the other seven Spartans who saw the floor. Positive spin: Imagine how good we'll be if we can get 5-6 guys to contribute offensively.
- Chris Allen: Limited offensive contributions (5 points on 7 FG attempts; 2 three-point attempts blocked). Stayed on the floor for 30 minutes, though, because his defense was so solid.
- Korie Lucious: Didn't score; missed all 3 shots he took from beyond the arc. Didn't make any mistakes with the ball, though: 2 assists, zero turnovers. Only played 16 minutes--I think because Izzo didn't want both him and Lucas on the floor defensively due to the Bouldin/Gray big guard combo.
- Draymond Green: 6 points, 10 rebounds. Played big down the stretch defensively in the hyper-small Lucas/Allen/Summers/Morgan/Green lineup. But needs to let things come to him offensively. Forced some bad passes: 1 assist vs. 4 turnovers.
- Derrick Nix: Played better defensively than offensively. Three blocked shots; impressed with how well he moves his feet away from the basket. Grabbed 4 offensive rebounds, but couldn't turn them into points (0-4 from the FT line).
- Garrick Sherman: Did I miss an injury here? Scored 4 points early on, 2 on a very nifty post move. Did not play after the 18-minute mark of the second half.
- Delvon Roe: Another horrific performance. Fouled out and turned the ball over 4 times in 12 minutes. He's too talented/smart not to pull it together at some point. Hopefully, this is just the after effects of the concussion. Looked lost on defense when he was on the floor, which is out of character.
- Isaiah Dahlman: Only played 1 minute, but it was an important one--the last one. Apparently, Tom Izzo wanted to stay small after Morgan fouled out. I don't think he touched ball, which is probably a good thing given that he was coming in cold.
This was a very up-tempo game: 77 possessions. (Tonight: MSU defense > MSU offense.) So MSU's 20 turnovers weren't quite as bad as you might think. But they were still pretty bad: TO% of 26.0%. Given that Gonzaga only turned it over 11 times and almost rebounded MSU to a draw (OffReb% of 32.6% vs. MSU's 36.1%), MSU had a lot of ground to make up in the shooting categories. Luckily, Gonzaga made only 4 of 18 three-point attempts, contributing to their poor eFG% of 38.6%. And MSU managed to get to the line 31 times (FT rate=54.4%)--led by Morgan--making 22 of those attempts.
Even with the early injury issues, it would have been pretty disappointing to drop this game at home. The Bulldogs did everything in their power to make that happen, and the inability of the MSU players--the guards, in particular--to keep things under control early on is perplexing. But ultimately, three guys who need to make plays for this team to be successful made a series of enormous plays. All things considered, you have to chalk this game up as a positive early-season experience.
(Note that I managed to get all the way through this recap without using that TV-announcer-friendly word that rhymes with "sad versity.")
Next Up: A hopefully-much-less-blood-pressure-raising match-up against the Toledo Rockets in the first round (but not the first round in the sense that losing means you don't advance to the second round or even means you don't get to play Florida in the third round) of the Legends Classic. 6:30, Friday night. The Breslin Center. Big Ten Network.
P.S. We're not alone in the "Expected National Championship Contenders Who Struggled to Beat an Unranked-but-Tradtionally-Nationally-Elite, Non-BCS-Conference Team" club.
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Sherman
I was puzzled by that, too. He didn’t do anything that I noticed to necessitate getting yanked from the game and I figured for sure that he’d make an appearance after Roe fouled out. He started, after all, and could have come in handy against the Gonzaga bigs.
Strange.
Nix played better if ya ask me.....
….Sherman may be good but Nix deserved to be out there at the end.
by BennieBladesFan on Nov 18, 2009 11:32 AM CST up reply actions
For sure
But he got ZERO second half minutes.
by intrpdtrvlr on Nov 18, 2009 11:50 AM CST up reply actions
His Defense
was not very good……Im guessing thats why he didnt play in 2nd half.
by BennieBladesFan on Nov 18, 2009 5:53 PM CST up reply actions
Back from the game
Some observations from watching the game live. It was way too easy for the Zags to get the ball down low to their bigs. If Izzo was serious about playing zone this year, this would’ve been a good time to give it a try. I’m starting to get very worried about Roe. He hasn’t even scored a point this year! If Lucious learns how to play defense he has to take Allen’s minutes. If Herzog was not injured, he is bench warmer for the rest of the season. The Zags shot over Green & Nix with ease. Nice to see Raymar play aggressive. Kalin did his usual. Summers saved us. Hopefully we learn from this win.
In all fairness to Green/Nix...
The zags big men were simply making good basketball plays. Defense can only take you so far.. when you’re hitting those hook shots like the Zags were you really can’t do anything about it other than go ‘yup – they’re playing well.’
Agreed
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Nov 18, 2009 7:21 AM CST up reply actions
Watching the replay
there were a lot of tough shots that their big men hit. They just made them look easy. Nix also had a few great plays rotating from his man and blocking some shots. Izzo saved his timeouts for the end and called a time out on 3 straight offensice plays. We scored on all 3.
by Chris in Kzoo on Nov 18, 2009 8:10 AM CST up reply actions
It was his 1st game.....
…….hes coming off a cuncussion……Its going ot take some time for him to get in the swing of things
by BennieBladesFan on Nov 18, 2009 11:34 AM CST up reply actions
Blame Game
I was ready to blame KJ for the loss because he didn’t cheer hard and loud enough.
Then he came through with some effort down the stretch and will the Spartans to victory. Good job KJ. Way to be a team player!
Went into pacing/muttering mode there for a stretch
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Nov 18, 2009 7:22 AM CST up reply actions
We all did.
"Do not cheat your team or your teammates. Know your plays. Block. Protect. Add to what we are trying to do."
The Only Colors
Sherman
Sherman got pulled because his defense was atrocious. Nix did a much better job on their big guys and got them in foul trouble.
by Maceo Baston on Nov 18, 2009 7:14 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Roe
I hate to say it, but Roe reminded me last night of Marquise Gray. Trying too hard on offense, lost on defense. I hope it is just the effects of the concussion, and the fact the team has not played much together due to injuries. The whole team seemed disjointed; the offensive sets seemed just off the whole night.
What I do like is that the team could pull out the win, basically on hustle and athleticism. What worries me is how vulnerable they will be to big teams. Boy, if the Gonzaga bigs could have their way underneath, just think of what UNC can do…
I'm willing to give Roe the benefit of the doubt.
Concussions really suck. It might be a little while until he’s himself again.
"Do not cheat your team or your teammates. Know your plays. Block. Protect. Add to what we are trying to do."
The Only Colors
Me too
He just didn’t look right out there.
I remind you....
…..it was the 2nd game of the season….The only gmaes that matter are big 10 and tourney time….These games are to get ready.
by BennieBladesFan on Nov 18, 2009 11:35 AM CST up reply actions
StatSheet four factor graph inserted
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Nov 18, 2009 7:25 AM CST reply actions
Amazing how the TO% basically negated everything else.
"Do not cheat your team or your teammates. Know your plays. Block. Protect. Add to what we are trying to do."
The Only Colors
agreed
I promised myself not to overreact when we (inevitably) lose a game that we shouldn’t early, but it’s still hard as a fan not to overreact to every game/minute/possession
by zeke4heisman on Nov 18, 2009 12:01 PM CST up reply actions
Sacre is no Herzog
I said he sounded like a Herzog type but geez – that guy is good. So is Harris. I thought Green played OK other than trying to force things on offense on occassion.
Ecouraging signs:
Summers looks ready to be a go-to guy on offense. Hopefully he can maintain that for the rest of the year
Morgan played great, and these big games against opponents with big front lines are when he used to kind of disappear. That is a very good sign. Hope his ankles can get back to 100 percent.
Lucas is still Lucas.
Nix played great on D – if we can get him to hit his free throws we’ll be OK at that position. Our rebounding was very good considering their height advantage.
The Bad:
Allen still looks tentative on offense. He is looking more and more like a defensive stopper though. Kudos on that.
Roe just looked completely lost on D – he failed to establish position in the post on D multiple times which is why he got into foul trouble. I’m not too worried long term – he was more than adequate last year, so he should be able to turn it around. It would be nice if he showed up on offense but he really didn’t get much of an opportunity in this game as he played very limited minutes.
The turnovers: I’ve pretty much come to terms with the fact that Izzo coached teams will go through turnover plagued 5 minute offensive droughts on a fairly regular basis. This has been a constant over the past several years and shows no signs of disappearing.
The Ugly: Herzog doesn’t see the floor against a team with two seven footers. Either he’s injured or he’s basically a scout team player for the rest of his career. You’d think he’d be able to at least give us some Ibok like minutes but so far it doesn’t look like it.
It’s early but based on the strength of their front line and the fact that they are all young, I have a feeling we may be seeing this Gonzaga team again if we get where we want to go this year. They will get better, and they are already very good. Hopefully our bigs will improve as well because we will need them to play better to beat this team come tournament time.
Overall, our guards/wings outplayed their guards/wings. Down low they outplayed us offensively, but we did win the rebounding battle. The college basketball season has officially started as that was a fantastic game and a good early-season test. Hats off to the Zags – they will be a tough out come tournament time.
Herzog
I was shocked that he didn’t play. With Gonzaga’s size and effectiveness, Sherman’s two fouls, and Roe wandering the court dazed like an accountant at Woodstock, it was the perfect situation.
If he doesn’t see the floor in that situation, Herzog appearances will probably be a rarity this season.
Someone did say that Izzo mentioned regretting not giving him a shot. Huh.
At least we're playing fast
Just checked Kenpom.com and our adjusted tempo os 76.6 possessions per game. Could this be the year we finally ramp up the tempo?
Grit under pressure
Once again, the first five minutes of each half were as disjointed as a contortionist. I’m puzzled as to why we so often have trouble getting going. One would think playing at home would give us a burst out of the gate. That being said, the team fought through the ennui, and made plays when needed, despite some rusty performances. Kudos to Morgan who surprised with his contributions. He showed a leadership and determination that has been mostly abent in his career. I like what Nix has to offer inside, but to stay on the floor he has to hit his free throws. I have a nickname for Nix, CEMENT NIXER, considering his size and shape.
Summers appears ready to take off. Hopefully Allen can catch a little of what Summers has going.
We escaped with a victory, and obviously we are far from being a masterpiece, but it was a good test and reminder of how much we still need to grow.
Front line
Gonzaga is going to be really good: they seemed uncannily smart, disciplined and highly skilled for a young team, and really picked us apart at times. One problem seemed to be that our bigs were letting Sacre and Harris catch the ball far too low in the paint: I suspect that given their size and Bouldin’s passing, fronting and rotating wasn’t option, but Roe, Sherman and even Nix needed to pick up their bigs earlier. In a game like that, I want to see Nix pick up at least one foul for rooting somebody out of the lane!
I like Cement Nixer, by the way. Let’s just hope it doesn’t continue to reflect his touch from the line.
by RobbingGormanThomas on Nov 18, 2009 9:43 AM CST reply actions
I think we can just go ahead and chalk Roe's play up to anomaly
Considering he probably still is not as responsive due to lingering concussion effects.
Thankfully, we’ve got at least a couple games to get him back on track.
Durrell continues to amaze!
This guy plays all phases of the game. What a tremendous block and goes way above the 7 footer. Kudos to Kalin and Raymar, however, Summers won this game.
Good learning game for Nix & Sherman.
Finally, give Roe some slack. He should not be compared to Quise by any means.
Durrell has always been a freakish athlete
If he can just manage to be consistent…holy crap will we have ourselves an awesome basketball team.
Whoever said Roe reminds they are Gray.....
……needs to be reminded that Roe is coming off a concussion and this was his first ganme of the season against a very good front line…..Its not easy coming off a concussion….Ive had one and it sucked…..So we have to give him some slack…..Trust me hes no Gray…..Hes 10 times better.
by BennieBladesFan on Nov 18, 2009 11:38 AM CST reply actions
Delvon Roe: Another horrific performance. Fouled out and turned the ball over 4 times in 12 minutes. He’s too talented/smart not to pull it together at some point. Hopefully, this is just the after effects of the concussion. Looked lost on defense when he was on the floor, which is out of character.
In his defense, his fourth foul looked like it should have been given to Nix and his fifth was a cheap one as well.
Light a man a fire, he'll stay warm for a day.
Light a man afire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
A couple of them were pretty ticky-tack
Basically he just couldn’t stay in the game last night due to foul trouble. He may still be a little off due to the concussion, but even if he just had an off night, I’m not too worried about him long term. He played well enough in a substantial role last year that his ability to be a solid starter should not be in doubt.
by TheCrestedHelm on Nov 18, 2009 1:26 PM CST up reply actions
this.
"Do not cheat your team or your teammates. Know your plays. Block. Protect. Add to what we are trying to do."
The Only Colors
My turn
I was fortunate enough to attend last night’s game. First off, the atmosphere was incredible. That’s the loudest I’ve ever heard it in my few years here in town, attending games. Fueled early by the barrage of bad, BAD calls, the intensity level was very high, and continued through the second half as we drew closer and closer. At one point down the stretch, you literally couldn’t hear the brass playing the fight song. The crowd yelling the players’ names during introductions had a cool effect as well.
Another sloppy start was very discouraging. Lots of turnovers and silly, you-know-better-than-that mistakes. What bothered me more, and I’ve mentioned this before, is that the players just seemed at a loss for how to even try to score against this team. They’re tall and long at every position, and that was a huge advantage for Gonzaga. But State looked like they had no idea how to handle that. I know Izzo and this team watches a ton of film, and their ability to find opponents’ Achilles heel is what enabled them to beat genuinely better teams through last year’s tourney run, but they almost looked panicked a bit out there, with frustrated expressions of "oh crap, they really ARE tall!" on their faces. The foul situation for the Gonzaga big men became our seventh man (the crowd was the sixth!), which disrupted their game by either removing the big men altogether, or by marginalizing them to more conservative-playing wall flowers.
Summers provided the game’s heroics, and fittingly scored the first and last points. The shot he hit on the way down (like, a couple of inches of the ground) was amazing. Morgan showed that guts >>> ankles and seemed to rise to a new, before-unseen level of leadership. Lucas came up big and was able to serve up some tasty crow. But some other performances stood out to me.
Draymond Green had his issues with goof-ups and forcing shots, but I thought he did a great job of playing scrappily and keeping his team’s fire burning at times. He just fought for things in ways that won’t register a stat in the box score. I was also impressed with Derrick Nix’s defensive efforts. If he could keep Sacre out of position, and he did on multiple occasions, he was extremely effective. Even out on the perimeter he was able to keep with his man and frustrate his efforts. I like the way he pops at the ball when his man does get lower in the post, which he was able to use to poke a couple of Bulldog positions away last night. He’s slow running the court, but he’s surprisingly deft once he’s in position and I’m excited to see him develop further. I mentioned earlier Morgan providing a spark and some tenacity, but I liked HOW he was doing it, even more. Like his teammates, he was having a hard time finding a clean look early in the game, so he went inside. He played lots of four, and he did it effectively by collapsing the defense and drawing fouls. There’s no shame in earning most of your scoring line from the free throw line. He was willing to take some punishment inside in an effort to get his team moving and disrupting the momentum of his opponent. Hats off to him.
I’ve read lots of disheartened comments about Roe’s performance, but I, like many others, are giving him the benefit of the doubt here. He was too good last year at less-than-full strength and was too highly-touted before that for this to be his norm. Plus it’s only been two games, for crying out loud. He does seem out of sorts and lost and guilty of silly fouls, but this is not the true Delvon Roe. His knees are back. If he can get his head straight, literally, he’ll be above the level of play he spoiled us with last March and April. Also, what’s with Kalin Lucas’ inability to hit a layup or floater in fast break/lane-driving situations? He had big moments throughout the game, especially down the stretch, but early on I was pulling my hair out. It’s almost as though he overestimates the traffic he’s outrunning/cutting through and it screws up his shot.
The calls and non-calls were atrocious. Sure, there’s homer bias, I’ve never heard a crowd so upset over such a sustained period of time as last night’s first half. Then we’d get a break in our direction as if the refs were trying to make up for their sins, only to be followed up by another string of terrible calls. Roe’s fourth foul was entirely of the phantom variety, as Nix was the one bear-hugging Sacre to prevent an easy layup. So many over-the-back calls on the Zag bigs were missed early in the game that is was laughable. For stretches, it was literally five on seven, with two refs in particular making awful, awful calls.
Bottom line, even after the poor, inexplicably confused start to this game, I feel great about this game. With early-season injuries and lack of playing/practicing together thus far, this team should not have won last night, especially after promptly digging a sizeable hole against a formidable opponent who I have no idea how they’re not ranked. But they gutted it out, which is something that cannot be taught. It’s difficult and foolish to draw conclusions from just two (very early) games, but this team appears to have guts that approach those they had about six and a half months ago, and that’s huge. The injuries will heal, and the chemistry will gel. The talent is already there, the guts appear to be as well, and the leadership is taking shape in an encouraging way.
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by Spartalytical on Nov 18, 2009 4:38 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Great stuff. Thanks for posting.
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Nov 18, 2009 7:47 PM CST up reply actions
About the calls
I’m pretty sure thats homer bias. Look at the free throw disparity. Look at the fact that 2 of the Zags big men fouled out. I would say it was an evenly reffed ( not great, but even) game. The fact that the fans would boo every call may be clouding your judgement
by Maceo Baston on Nov 19, 2009 9:27 AM CST up reply actions
Evenly--and poorly--reffed
Good description of the most questionable calls is here.
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Nov 19, 2009 9:48 AM CST up reply actions
Calls
I won’t deny a level of homer bias, but I should have been clearer that my main beef was with the no-call over-the-backs in the first half on the Spartans’ defensive end. Once they started playing more aggressively and taking the ball inside, whistles began to blow and the fouls began to rack up. If any judgment was clouded, it was because so many questionable calls came in such quick succession in the first half.
Don’t think I was blind to the other side though. The play in the link below was a bad no-call as well, and there’s no way Nix got away as clean as the box showed.
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