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Game Thread: Spartans vs. Rockets

Toledo Rockets at Michigan St. Spartans, Nov 20, 2009 5:30 PM CST


Game preview is here.

I'll be MIA for at least the first chunk of this game.  So chat amongst yourselves.

Go State!  Beat the Rockets!

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Roe, Green, Summers, Allen, Lucas

The debut of the centerless starting line-up has arrived! No time like Toledo.

by intrpdtrvlr on Nov 20, 2009 5:34 PM CST reply actions  

Announcers

If someone could invent a device that would allow be to listen to Gus Ganakas through my tv I would gladly pay them $100.

by Chris in Kzoo on Nov 20, 2009 5:47 PM CST reply actions  

Herzog

Herzog looked like he was in considerable pain on the bench. I think he has a bad case of anguish. I feel for him. He should probably bring a book with him.

by donaldo on Nov 20, 2009 5:55 PM CST reply actions  

On the court

He seems to be laboring too. I know the big guys aren’t the fastest but a possession was starting and Herzog was still plodding up behind the 3-pt line. Strange. It almost looks like a conditioning problem.

by intrpdtrvlr on Nov 20, 2009 6:04 PM CST up reply actions  

And I know I joke about him a lot

but I think part of it is that you really have to give Herzog minutes to see what he has. There’s a speed and rhythm you get from game experience. I wonder if Herzog could actually develop more if he got to play.

by intrpdtrvlr on Nov 20, 2009 6:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Thornton

How many Thorntons are out there. It looks like two or three.

by donaldo on Nov 20, 2009 5:59 PM CST reply actions  

Defense

Some good D by the Spartans, but it looks like Toledo signed a bunch of kids from Bricklayer High.

by donaldo on Nov 20, 2009 6:04 PM CST reply actions  

Roe

I think roe might be at 90%.

by donaldo on Nov 20, 2009 6:06 PM CST reply actions  

It's looking a little like playground time

I’d like to see some better shot selection.

by donaldo on Nov 20, 2009 6:11 PM CST reply actions  

Agree 100%

I like the fast pace of play, but that doesn’t mean you need to always shoot after the first pass past half court.

by Stones1981 on Nov 20, 2009 6:20 PM CST up reply actions  

I love the playground.....

…….I think shot selection has been fine

by BennieBladesFan on Nov 20, 2009 6:28 PM CST up reply actions  

It's good to see Roe making an impact

That follow up dunk was the most explosive play I’ve seen him make as a Spartan.

by Stones1981 on Nov 20, 2009 6:18 PM CST reply actions  

Meh....

Second half of the first half was pretty bad… but lot of thornton, dahlman, and Herzog so I guess that’s expected.

by MooTheKow on Nov 20, 2009 6:22 PM CST reply actions  

sherman and nix

need to get more burn in prep for carolina. Their height is terrifying

by dcspartan1 on Nov 20, 2009 6:43 PM CST reply actions  

Did he say "weight stamina?"

As in “Herzog loses weight during games?”

by intrpdtrvlr on Nov 20, 2009 7:21 PM CST reply actions  

Big time ouch...

HE could end up being the worst free throw shooter in D-1 hoops… not sure I’ve ever seen a sub-10% free throw shooter before.

by MooTheKow on Nov 20, 2009 7:27 PM CST up reply actions  

The thing is

it seems like he usually has the shot centered, but that it’s either too long or too short. Mostly too long.

by Stones1981 on Nov 20, 2009 7:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Ye gods

I could shoot 7% from the free throw line. Blindfolded.

by SpartanDan on Nov 20, 2009 8:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Frost/NixOn (or rather off)

He pretty much has eliminated himself from playing in the last four minutes of a close game thanks to the practically subzero foul shooting.

by donaldo on Nov 20, 2009 7:37 PM CST reply actions  

Nix

Just back. Nix needs to learn to hit free throws. In the mean time he needs to dunk it to make it less of an issue.

Light a man a fire, he'll stay warm for a day.
Light a man afire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

by Seer on Nov 20, 2009 7:47 PM CST reply actions  

Ugh

FG % (45.5) higher than FT % (42.3). Only Summers (2-3) and Lucious (2-2) above 50% FT.

by Con-T on Nov 20, 2009 9:24 PM CST reply actions  

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