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Technical Difficulties: Michigan State 76 Grand Valley 53

The big fella looks to score.

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The big fella looks to score.

Grumpy Preface: So the $2.99 I invested tonight bought me two hours of almost constantly freezing/restarting video feed.  When I sent a message complaining about this to the good folks at bigtennetwork.com, I received a reply indicating--in more jargony words--that this was clearly the result of something I was doing wrong.  Given that at least one other TOC reader experienced exactly the same problems, at exactly the same times, I am skeptical.

Anyway, allow me to say this to any BTN executive that may be surfing through: If I--a man trying to watch a video feed on your website using a less-than-six-months-old laptop computer over a medium-grade DSL connection while running no other software applications and not having anyone else in the house access the wireless network at the same time--cannot get a consistent feed, then I think your on-line video endeavor may not turn out to be all that profitable.

More practically: I didn't exactly get a great look at this game, so take everything below with a grain of salt.

Moving on: This was a 71-possession game (box score is here), so the defense was generally better than the offense.  That doesn't come as a total surprise, given the state of the roster.  Chris Allen, Delvon Roe, and Raymar Morgan all sat out.  (The announcers indicated Allen and Roe could have played if this were a real game.  As for Morgan, I think we'll do well to get 10-15 minutes out of him for the Gonzaga game.)  Durrell Summers, meanwhile, only played 19 minutes, missing a chunk of the game after taking a shot to the eye from a Laker player.

The combination of those things meant that Isaiah Dahlman (23 minutes) and Austin Thornton (19 minutes) got to see a lot of the floor tonight.  Neither did a lot to impress, at least offensively, as they combined for just 8 points.  Both played solid defense and will be useful options in a pinch (and hopefully not more than a pinch) this season, but lineups like Lucious/Dahlman/Thornton/Green/Herzog are not conducive to scoring points in bunches.

Star-divide

Overall, the defense was solid.  The three new big men (including Herzog; we need a nickname for those three to make talking about them as a group less unwieldy) showed their inexperience.  Herzog and Sherman both picked up 4 fouls, and all three looked a little lost on switches/hedges at times.  (Nix did have a nice steal of a post feed at one point.)  Nevertheless, there weren't any major defensive breakdowns, and Grand Valley never really made a game of it, despite the margin staying below 15 for most of the game.

Bullets:

  • Grand Valley kept things close on the boards, posting a 28.2 OffReb% vs. MSU's 34.2%.  But MSU won the turnover battle, as GVSU turned it over on 28.2% of possessions vs. just 15.5% for MSU.
  • The Lakers ran some zone/trapping looks, which didn't seem to phase the MSU players much.
  • Draymond Green is your player of the game: 15 points on 10 FG attempts, 11 rebounds, 2 assists (and several other nice passes that didn't result in buckets), 3 turnovers, 3 steals.
  • Kalin Lucas played 36 minutes, which is more than you'd like to see in an exhibition game.  Forced some shots in the lane, converting only 6 of 18 FG attempts.  Needs to get the mid-range game going more quickly than he did last season.  4 assists vs. 1 turnover, perfect on 6 FT attempts.
  • Korie Lucious played 28 minutes, so Lucas and Lucious were on the court together a lot.  12 points on 9 FG attempts.  Instant offense.
  • Derrick Nix was again the most impressive of the big man three-pack (does that work?).  8 points and 3 rebounds in 18 minutes.  His points all came early, though, indicating conditioning may still be an issue.
  • Tom Herzog is still lacking some physical assertiveness, particularly on offense, but I think he's progressing.  Pretty good statistical productivity: 6 points, 4 rebounds, and 2 blocks in 12 minutes.
  • Garrick Sherman didn't do much tonight: 4 points and 2 rebounds in 13 minutes.
  • Durrell Summers struggled to score, making only 2 of 9 FG attempts.  Some of that may have been a result of having his eye swollen shut for the second half.  5 rebounds, though; he may need to do some extra work on the boards depending on how long it takes Morgan to be fit for 25+ minutes/game.
  • Second straight game the team didn't shoot all that great from beyond the arc: 4-12.  That's a mild concern going into the regular season.
  • Tom Izzo got teed up in the second half.  Not sure exactly why; just caught the technical foul being issued between video feed spasms.  The Grand Valley coach had gotten all worked up earlier, so maybe Izzo just didn't want to get outworked on his own court.

Up next: A real-live basketball game!  But not so much on a real-live TV network.  Florida Gulf Coast (click here to learn more about the Eagles).  At home.  7:00, Friday night.  Viewable, apparently, on ESPN360.  Someone care to fill us in on exactly what that is and how one goes about watching it?

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Nix-zilla. I think a road game (such as Texas) will cement it in place.

ESPN 360 is something you just install as a plug-in or something. Whether you get it depends on whether your Internet Provider subscribes to it. One thing to beware is that it is delayed a minute or two behind ESPN so you may have spoilers kind of if you’re trying to watch TV and the game.

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by Seer on Nov 9, 2009 10:48 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Nixname

I like KJ’s “The Big Three” for our big trio. Nixzilla is good, but I like Fort Nix better.

** reserved for something original **

by Spartalytical on Nov 10, 2009 2:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I was fortunate enough to attend the game. Our defense did a terrible job of allowing dribble penetration. It won’t take long for Spartan fans to miss Walton. This team will struggle early like last year until we get a consistent line up. Nix was very impressive but didn’t appear to play much in the 2nd half. I would like to see Durrell attack the basket more instead of pulling up almost every time. A couple of times he dribbled into the lane and was able to dish it off to a big man for an easy lay up. Draymond Green is really fun to watch. Thornton & Dahlman are solid players, however I never want to see them on the court for 20 minutes again. Izzo got the tech for screaming because Sherman? was thrown to the floor with no foul called.

by Chris in Kzoo on Nov 9, 2009 10:54 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

ESPN360

is pretty solid, considering its free. I watched the MSU-NW football game on it a few weeks ago… highly recommended.

by anagonye on Nov 9, 2009 11:01 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Getting ESPN 360

You can get ESPN360 are on a military base or college campus

OR

If you have one of their affiliated ISPs. Some of the major ISPs that carry ESPN360:

Comcast
Verizon FiOS
Cox
Charter
AT&T

They have a list of maybe 40 ISPs on there, but a lot of them look like smaller co-ops.

Thanks for the fanpost love, KJ. Looking forward to answering questions.

by rroan28 on Nov 10, 2009 12:10 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

"Big Three" Nickname

I’m guessing “The Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost” is too irreverent for a nickname? At the same time, I bet you can figure out who is who pretty clearly, and much of MSU’s championship potential rests on faith in them. Faith, so far, not works.

by intrpdtrvlr on Nov 10, 2009 7:35 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

You could shorten it to “F,S,&HG” in print.

by intrpdtrvlr on Nov 10, 2009 7:39 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Let's keep working on it

I think I’ll try to steer clear of sacrilege.

The “Big Three” may actually be the best/simplest option.

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by KJ@theonlycolors on Nov 10, 2009 7:44 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

keep workin'

I agree; it was tongue-in-cheek, but I think it’s far too presumptuous to say “Big Three.”

by intrpdtrvlr on Nov 10, 2009 8:08 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I also like The Big Three

For its simplicity. If it seems presumptuous, how about “The three bigs”? That’s a common enough basketball term now isn’t it?

by Con-T on Nov 10, 2009 1:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

You should post a poll for the threesome, as well as for Nix.

** reserved for something original **

by Spartalytical on Nov 10, 2009 2:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Big Man Nickname

Granted it’s wishful thinking, but may as well start with some positive energy – how about Trifecta?

Or Triumvirate?

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by donaldo on Nov 10, 2009 8:24 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

how about

the big trees (instead of three … get it!!) or Treefectas. Tree = Tall.

luttez pour les seuls couleurs, vert et blanc

by vert_et_blanc on Nov 10, 2009 11:49 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Trees Company!!!!

… ok i’m done

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by vert_et_blanc on Nov 10, 2009 11:53 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I also had some video issues

The audio cut out for the start of the second half and video feed also went down for about a minute. The picture was also hit or miss. For the first half it was very grainy and no where near HD quality, but for the second half after the audio/video issues it was in HD.

It’s tough to really get too much from these games considering we are missing 3 key starters. I like Nix offensively and I like Herzog defensively. Draymond is a great passer and again he filled up the stat sheet. He’ll be huge for us against teams that play zone.

by Stones1981 on Nov 10, 2009 8:28 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

How about Cerberus?

He’s the three headed dog that guards the Gates of Hades in Greek Mythology. It’s only one word, so it’s easy to type, and is related to ancient Sparta – the inspiration for our mascot. Plus it makes us seem somewhat literary.

by TheCrestedHelm on Nov 10, 2009 4:17 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

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