Game Thread: Spartans vs. Tar Heels. With bonus Linking Laconically and Rather Hall commentary.
by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 1, 2009 6:33 PM CST
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PrintMichigan St. Spartans at North Carolina Tar Heels, Dec 1, 2009 8:10 PM CST
Pregame Linking Laconically:
- Big Ten / ACC Challenge - can the B10 finally win the challenge? - The Daily Gopher
Tempo-free tables! - A Brief History of UNC-Michigan State - Carolina March
Mostly ugly on our side; that game from 10 years ago turned out alright, though. - The 10 best NCAA basketball teams of the decade - The Dagger - NCAAB - Yahoo! Sports
2000 MSU team checks in at #9. - Take 5 With David Merritt: Old Spice Classic | UM Hoops.com
Really great interview. Merritt is evidently worth tuning into as the color guy on UM basketball broadcasts. - The State News : Blogs - Izzo beginning to determine what would make MSU 'elite'
I'll be honest: I'm getting a little sick of the word "elite." - The State News : Blogs - Spartans battle elements to Junkanoo title
Included mainly because it's fun to say "Junkanoo"; also to demonstrate that those half-empty men's basketball early-season tournament venues could be worse. - The State News : Blogs - Honors keep coming for wideout White
Invited to East-West Shrine Game. - 2009 Quarterback Rankings, Final Edition: Across The Board, Marked Improvement Over 2008 - The Rivalry, Esq.
Cousins #3 behind Clark/Kafka. - Stoops Has Finally Killed The Unkillable Zombie Stoops-To-ND Rumors: Now What? - Brian Cook - The Sporting Blog - Sporting News
Sure seems like it's gotta end up being Brian Kelly.
Regarding that other bit of breaking news:
With the individuals involved in the Rather Hall incident now outed, I stand by my previous statement:
If there were, in fact, one or more football players involved in what, if the initial report is at all accurate, was a premeditated act of pure thuggery (and all signs point to yes on players being involved) those players need to be dismissed from both the team and the university with all dispatch.
I don't care if there was only one football player in the group. I don't care if none of the players involved were the individuals wearing the ski masks. I don't care if a player just happened to tag along because he ran into the group as it walked to the dorm. I don't care if dismissing a player is likely to lead that player down a path toward lifelong ruin. And I certainly don't care what impact any player's dismissal will have on the team's fortunes in its bowl game and/or the 2010 season.
Further, a clear message needs to be delivered to the entire Michigan State football team that the level of tolerance for violence and any other form of law-breaking is now exactly zero. No more second chances. You get a first chance. And then you're done.
If Mark Dell and B.J. Cunningham were, in fact, dumb enough to be involved in this thing, then I look forward to seeing Kirk Cousins throw the ball to Keshawn Martin, (the other) Chris Rucker, and our plethora of tight ends (about 15 times a game?) in the bowl game and the 2010 season. And whatever consideration Ashton Leggett earned to be a starter for the next two years with his on-field performance late in this season was forfeited when he entered Rather Hall with a group of ski mask-wearing thugs.
Will I root for the team--and by extension the suspended players--if they're reinstated? Well, of course, I will. Being a sports fan is an inherently irrational endeavor. But I honestly believe that a fresh start is going to be much better for Mark Dantonio's tenure as MSU head coach in the long run, even it means a losing 2010 campaign. More importantly, the reputation of the university, and it's alumni/supporters, should come first.
Me, from last week, again:
I can only hope that, beyond the simple issue of integrity as it relates directly to the football program, the impact of this incident and those that have preceded it on the broader reputation of the university and its alumni/supporters will figure prominently into the thinking and decision making of Mark Dantonio, Mark Hollis, and Lou Anna Simon as this situation moves forward. In fact, strike the first two names on that list of decision makers. Mark Dantonio may (or may not) know what's in the best interest of his team or a given football player. But responsibility for protecting the image and integrity of the university rests with its president.
OK, with that off my chest, on to the basketball game!
Regarding which, I have to admit, I'm also feeling fairly negative. The first five minutes may tell the story tonight. Can this team come out and show it's capable of holding on to the ball against a quality opponent? If so, we could be in for a treat. If not . . . well, I don't know what--an even more downtrodden game recap than the Florida one, I guess.
For now, let's hear people's pregame gut feelings in the space below.
Go State. Beat Carolina.
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Gut feeling...
is this game isn’t going to go well. MSU players seem too amped up and hell-bent on the ‘we need to redeem ourselves’ thing. I see them coming out and trying to force things too much and turning it over. Hope I’m wrong and MSU comes out strong – but I just don’t see it. Also worry that MSU’s shooters are too streaky and that if their outside shots aren’t falling our interior game isn’t going to do so well against their size. That could lead to a mighty ugly game.
Also – re: Football. If they play those players in the bowl game not only will i not root for them – I am going to be writing some serious hate mail to Dantonio and the athletic department. That would be absolutely absurd. I don’t want my university being represented by such idiots.
Also - re: Elite...
I too am getting sick of the word. If you have to keep bringing it up and saying the word – it kind of loses something. You don’t see Duke and UNC constantly bringing up the fact they are ‘elite’ programs. They need to let their game speak for itself and just keep winning and everything else will take care of itself.
Northwestern...
up 10 though… craziness…. Indiana is hanging with Maryland too… craziness.
Ed Hightower spotting in Bloomington!
"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."
I hope you guys don't mind if a PSU fan joins you
"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."
Battle = Fantastic....
that is all… was glad to see he thought he was in the Breslin center last night..
Indeed
I just hope Frazier gets more time. Battle needs some rest. That’s one reason why he declined mid-season.
"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."
by ReadingRambler on Dec 1, 2009 7:01 PM CST up reply actions
Ya think?
I thought it had more to do with off-the-court issues related to his mother’s health. That sort of thing can be really tough to deal with — not at all shocking that it would affect his game.
I think it was a combination of that, tougher Big Ten defenses, and not enough rest.
"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."
by ReadingRambler on Dec 1, 2009 7:04 PM CST up reply actions
You're in
as long as you don’t post any of those Battle-knocking-down-30-foot-fall-away-3-pointer photos from last year.
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 1, 2009 7:02 PM CST up reply actions
But it's so tempting!
"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."
by ReadingRambler on Dec 1, 2009 7:04 PM CST up reply actions
I love Hightower!
Muggings for 15 seconds, then random foul! Pure artwork.
"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."
OOOo.....
Did I catch Jim Burr doing the Indiana game too? That makes me so happy.
Only one missing is Sam Lickliter
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by ReadingRambler on Dec 1, 2009 7:08 PM CST up reply actions
There.
It just happened again.
Ed is a machine.
"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."
by ReadingRambler on Dec 1, 2009 7:11 PM CST up reply actions
Maryland on a nice cold stretch
I thought those only happened to Big Ten teams!
"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."
Nope, nevermind
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by ReadingRambler on Dec 1, 2009 7:09 PM CST up reply actions
Man...
if Northwestern wins the big ten might finally win this year! … and Indiana actually looks like they have a legit shot at winning too… all craziness.. Starting the challenge 4-0 would be pretty nice.
No jinxing!
Would be wicked awesome, though.
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 1, 2009 7:34 PM CST up reply actions
Example of superfantastic tweet you get on TOC twitter feed
“8 idiot football players suspended + bball rematch vs. team that beat us by combined 52 pts last yr. Too much stress being MSU fan tonight”
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 1, 2009 7:35 PM CST reply actions
We need to win
if only to give me something good to feel about MSU athletics at the moment.
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Of the Ten Individuals Named...
Only Jenrette was not recruited by Dantonio. This is very disappointing given that everything before this had indicated that recruiting athletes of strong character that had at least decent proficiency in the class room was his style. (Not that the rest of the team is rotten eggs, but 9 guys out of 66 signed is 13ish% of his guys)
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Northwestern...
up 8 with a min and a half left… craziness.
Hollis says
MSU won’t turn down bowl game.
Wait, that would mean football season would be over, right?
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 1, 2009 7:53 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Give Them Love
There is much skepticism and apprehension in Spartanland tonight. Let’s send out some collective pregame love to them, in a harmonic convergence of Green and White, to lift them to victory.
Not a good start
in the stopping-them-down-low department.
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 1, 2009 8:13 PM CST reply actions
Agreed
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 1, 2009 8:19 PM CST up reply actions
If these guys
can get it close to the second half, then I’ll feel confident about winning it in the second half
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7 minutes gone
Zero turnovers
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 1, 2009 8:23 PM CST reply actions
i thought we were playing unc not duke
by Chris in Kzoo on Dec 1, 2009 8:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Wasn't that in the semi-circle?
Oh wait…
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Why does everyone we play just throw it right over our heads...
and right into the basket?
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If they keep hitting their jumpers
they are going to be tough to beat
Welll..e
I have a feeling this game is already over. If Summers and Allen are ice cold I can’t see MSU even remotely sniffing a W tonight.
+1
Was just about to post the same thing.
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 1, 2009 8:39 PM CST up reply actions
IU loses
Big Ten up 3-1 now.
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 1, 2009 8:40 PM CST reply actions
NC turnovers
keeping us in striking distance
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Not enough movement, period
Too many guys standing around waiting for someone else to get open and create.
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I realize Izzo doesn't like to play zone because its tought to rebound with but
If UNC is shooting 60% there is not many rebounds to be had.
How do you defend that?
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0-5 from 3
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And now Lucas gets called for a foul
Looked like a slip to me
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Izzo having an an arrogant moment
UNC on pace to score 100. Refuses to change defense. I hate to say it but it sounds familiar to Narduzzi.
of course that was good
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Sweet...
MSU going to lose by 30 to a completely different team.
+1
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 1, 2009 8:58 PM CST up reply actions
Can Nix get in?
Sherman is way out of position a lot of the time
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Yup
MSU has absolutely no ability to adjust how they play based on their opponent and reffing. Raymar keeps trying to draw the foul when he shoots and throws up junk that doesn’t go in — and the refs aren’t going ot call the foul on the defenders tonight.
What is this?
Digger Phelps seems to say something intelligent? We need to run and play better D
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Maybe
we can get the football team to bust into the UNC locker room at half time and do what they do best…
by nickexperience on Dec 1, 2009 9:01 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Tale of the first half:
UNC – 63.6% 3-5 from 3
MSU – 38.9% 0-7 from 3
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Halftime stats
38 possessions
UNC absolutely killing it. 64.3% on 2-pointers. 60.0% on 3-pointers.
MSU guards 6-23 from field (Lucas/Lucious/Allen/Summers).
I don’t see how we possibly come back to win in the 2nd half.
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 1, 2009 9:04 PM CST reply actions
Absolutely zero chance....
I’m not sure I’m even going to watch. I hope tomorrow I can wake up and find that MSU lost by less than 20 and was at least somewhat respectable. North Carolina is so much better than MSU it makes me sick.
What makes me sick
Is that we never get the UNC that lost to BC and Maryland last year or the one that got torched by Syracuse this year. We get the one that would hang with the Celtics. Every time.
by Con-T on Dec 1, 2009 9:09 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Whenever you need a win, you always seem to get the team that shoots 60 percent...
I can never really become as excited about basketball as I am about football. I become too frustrated.
"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."
by ReadingRambler on Dec 1, 2009 9:11 PM CST up reply actions
By scoring more points than them
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17 more points to be exact...
Just isn’t going to happen. MSU’s shooters can’t make baskets and theirs can. Not very complicated past that.
These threes
Are soul crushing
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ugly turnover
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UNC is scoring too quickly
to even come up with snarky depressed comments…its putting me into a trance…
I think I agree
This is ludicrous.
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by ReadingRambler on Dec 1, 2009 9:19 PM CST up reply actions
Do we have, like, offensive set plays?
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 1, 2009 9:22 PM CST reply actions
MSU blowing every chance they get....
EVERY single time MSU catches a break… they find a way to blow it…
Summers trips and gives the ball away… Raymar forgets to actually grab the ball leading to a UNC 3….
Sure – UNC can’t miss — but MSU isn’t helping the cause.
I was at Bennigans
But this comment pretty much sums up the game for me.
How in the world could a game combine lights-out shooting by the opponent and this ridiculous number of blown opportunities and freak plays?
At this pace we'll only lose by 10!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHPOzQzk9Qo
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Ludicrous
"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."
At some point
we’re going to need to some guys that are tall and not super, super slow…
Cannot catch a break
And we really are getting killed by their second stringers.
by RobbingGormanThomas on Dec 1, 2009 9:29 PM CST reply actions
Our offense is on now
If only we could get a couple stops. Am I crazy or is pressing a decent idea?
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Mikan!
Since when were we playing the Minneapolis Lakers…
by RobbingGormanThomas on Dec 1, 2009 9:31 PM CST up reply actions
He can't miss from the floor
We’re in good foul shape, we should hack-a0shaq and see if they can make FTs
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No, that strategy only works against Penn State
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by ReadingRambler on Dec 1, 2009 9:32 PM CST up reply actions
70 percent? Seriously?
"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."
Say that again!
Comeback time!
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by ReadingRambler on Dec 1, 2009 9:36 PM CST up reply actions
SUMMERS!
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force of habit
lol
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They missed shots
Finally
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and then we do
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Baby steps
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by ReadingRambler on Dec 1, 2009 9:39 PM CST up reply actions
chance to get it to 10
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There it is!
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I like pushing the pace
Down to ten.
by RobbingGormanThomas on Dec 1, 2009 9:40 PM CST reply actions
Never know
If you believe in karma, there has to be something after UNC shot like an MG42 machine gun
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by ReadingRambler on Dec 1, 2009 9:41 PM CST up reply actions
So many chances to make it a game...
and so many times blowing it.
Damn
We’ve run that lob twice, and once we didn’t throw it when Summers was wide open, and now we throw it away.
by RobbingGormanThomas on Dec 1, 2009 9:42 PM CST reply actions
Morgan again!
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why is draymond green going for a block on a guy that's way taller then him?
Just get a hand in his face…
No one cares what he says anymore
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by ReadingRambler on Dec 1, 2009 9:44 PM CST up reply actions
Izzo says the same
not too upset. Fwiw, Dickie also said we were real close
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Press with the small line-up
Can’t hurt the half-court d that much
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Izzo teams don't press
He doesn’t teach it; they don’t know how to do it, other than token pressure.
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 1, 2009 9:46 PM CST up reply actions
I'd take token pressure
given UNC’s turnover issues and their high fg%
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I'm sure everyone was waiting just to see sweaty Roy Williams say "how bout them Tarheels"
Only reason I’m here
"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."
Roy Williams was actually injured by a MSU football player...
Will wait to tell the true story in his next book.
They missed THAT 3?
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If we can cut into this lead...
I’d like to see what this young Carolina can do when the game gets tight.
by RobbingGormanThomas on Dec 1, 2009 9:54 PM CST reply actions
Lucas/Summers rested
Can someone knock down a 3? Please?
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 1, 2009 9:57 PM CST reply actions
no kidding...
they can’t get crap in their sets… and he is passing up wiiiide open shots.
He's had the pull down problem for a while
Needs to take the first look more often, especially with time a factor
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IDIOTS
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 1, 2009 9:58 PM CST reply actions
Shot clock violation
When Izzo had called a timeout to design a play to get a shot off.
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 1, 2009 10:49 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah
Very disturbingly un-Izzo-team like.
Seriously, don’t we have a elite junior point guard for these situations?
So....Awful....
MSU keeps wasting opportunity after opportunity.
Perfect storm
of reasons we’re losing
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Urgency
You’d think with only a few minutes left there would be a sense of urgency…unbelievable you could get a shot clock violation.
by RobbingGormanThomas on Dec 1, 2009 10:00 PM CST reply actions
there's another
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WOO! TO!
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Man...
if only they took advantage of a couple of those opportunities they had through out the game (the bad ally oop by raymar, the 3 on noone break where raymar forgot to grab the ball, etc)….
Could be winning despite UNC’s shooting.
BS!
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Got a good look
That last three by Summers would have been HUGE…and then to have Green foul out on the caroom…ugh…. Gotta love Day-Day though.
by RobbingGormanThomas on Dec 1, 2009 10:08 PM CST reply actions
Basketball gods taunting us now
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 1, 2009 10:12 PM CST reply actions
this is hilarious....
So many bad breaks…. and near lucky things…
Miss Green/Roe at the line.
Yeah
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 1, 2009 10:15 PM CST up reply actions
Hey, a 7 point loss to UNC on their court without a 3-point threat?
It’s a lot better than last year, and we all know how that ended up…
Game recap later
Thanks for suffering through this with me, folks.
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 1, 2009 10:17 PM CST reply actions
Eh
You guys will make it to the final four again.
I don’t think anyone thought it would get within 6. I guess that doesn’t help much, but you have still have a good team. Good luck.
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by ReadingRambler on Dec 1, 2009 10:18 PM CST up reply actions
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by ReadingRambler on Dec 1, 2009 10:20 PM CST up reply actions
Go Green!
It’s going to be a good season…
Goodnight all...
At least it wasn’t a complete embarrassment like both games last year.
I’d hate to be Izzo right now.. pretty sure he hates life.
If anything went right
We would have taken them. They shot the lights out, got every break and every call and we still made it a game.
Look on the Bright Side
We get to be miserable about what might have been this time instead of being miserable about getting blown out.
It’s like the difference between the Penn State game misery and Iowa game misery!
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Agree
Nice second half, even with the god awful three point shooting. So many moments there where we could have put some real pressure on them. Good to see Raymar playing with some fire, and Summers come back from a miserable first half. Dug ourselves too deep a hole early (esp. with that little spurt they had just before half).
Hawkeyes only down four in IC with two to play. I’d like to see the B10 go into tomorrow with a two game lead….
by RobbingGormanThomas on Dec 1, 2009 10:23 PM CST reply actions
Iowa's now down by 7 with a minute left.
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by ReadingRambler on Dec 1, 2009 10:25 PM CST up reply actions
Other question
with depressing answer: we win if we have Walton OR Suton, don’t we?
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That doesn't work
Because if we have Walton/Suton, they have Lawson/Hansborough/Ellington/Green!
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 1, 2009 10:54 PM CST up reply actions
Good riddance
I cringe every time the commercial with Hansborough comes on. I never want to see any of those guys ever again.
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