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Whatever that Means: Michigan State 72, Wofford 60

My viewing of this game was delayed, incomplete, and half-hearted--so we'll go straight to bullets (official box score is here):

  • As expected, Raymar Morgan (19 points on 11 FGA, 11 rebounds) and Draymond Green (12 points on 8 FGA) were able to score efficiently against the undersized Terriers.
  • Good 3-point shooting from Kalin Lucas (13 points on 2-5 three-point shooting, 9 assists) and Chris Allen (11 points on 3-5 three-point shooting).
  • Isaiah Dahlman got 12 minutes (and the start) against his younger brother's team, but only scored one bucket (on one shot).  Sort of the story of his career--just never has found a way to get involved in the offense.  Nice story tonight, though.
  • Meanwhile, Noah Dahlman was the only consistent scoring option for Wofford, scoring 19 points on 8-13 two-point shooting.  The rest of the Terriers combined for just 7 made 2-pointers (on 24 attempts).
  • Turnovers were the big problem for MSU--and the reason Wofford was able to hang around until the final 10 minutes.  19 turnovers in 65 possessions (TO%=29.2).  Six Spartans turned it over 2 or more times.  They looked pretty sloppy on offense all night.
  • MSU dominated the shooting percentage and rebounding categories to offset the 17-percentage-point gap in the turnover department.

 

This was definitely one of those less-than-perfect performances I thought we might see over the next few games.  I really have no idea whether the turnover issues are a major cause for concern beyond the concerns we already had.  It's the first turnover percentage above 19% MSU has posted against a non-BCS/Gonzaga opponent, for whatever that's worth.

I'll let those who watched the game more intently chime in with their reactions.

Next up: The Citadel visits the Breslin Center.   MSU visits Charleston, SC to play The Citadel. Monday at 7:00.  ESPNU.

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Isn't Citadel an away game?

That’s what the schedule says. I’m debating taking my son to his first game and it might be on Thursday but I’d consider Monday if it’s home. That’s mistake, right?

by intrpdtrvlr on Dec 4, 2009 11:30 PM CST reply actions  

Meh

I saw the game and at least 90% of it was played in uninspired fashion, and was uninspiring to watch. Wofford actually has some decent things going on and is no typical cupcake (as was pointed out by one of the BTN’s really talented game-callers).

I’ve been impressed this year with Raymar Morgan and that continued last night. It could have been a function of the Terriers’ smaller line-ups, but I like him taking the ball inside much more than popping from 15+ feet. He also seems to have matured over the past couples of years. Add that to his good health, and he’s been putting it together quite nicely so far this year. Green continues to be as solid as possible. Not a superstar, but very consistent and very much the glue on the floor.

I was glad to see Allen knock down a few threes, but he still passed up some I thought he should have taken and seemed a bit hesitant at times. I was also glad to see Lucas take a couple for a change, and he didn’t seem to force things inside.

I think Sherman should be playing more. Yes, he’s a freshman and needs some additional bulk, but there were a few times last night where he scrapped and made some moves that looked very basketball-intelligent (in general, not just for a freshman), and I found myself thinking “here’s our next Suton, in the rough.” Nix should be shooting at least 500 FTs in practice each day – good grief.

Also, Tim Doyle is a major dork.

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by Spartalytical on Dec 5, 2009 8:25 AM CST reply actions  

Agreed...

Game was pretty ‘meh’. MSU played sloppy and uninspired for the most part. Lot of lazy mistakes and the defense was pretty poor. Roe appeared to be sleep-walking through the game – and Summers continued his streak of playing really really poorly. Played poor in the first half… rode the bench a long time… finally came back in the 2nd half an immediately made an incredibly sloppy pass for a turnover and then let his man shoot a 3 over him on the other end.

Raymar looked great though… was the lone bright spot last night in my opinion.

by MooTheKow on Dec 5, 2009 8:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed
Roe appeared to be sleep-walking through the game – and Summers continued his streak of playing really really poorly.

I’m not sure what Roe’s issue was. He really did appear to be sleep-walking. On that play where he turned the ball over on the inbound, he just sort of looked around afterward as if he had no idea what was going on. I think Summers’ only made shot came with his foot on the line.

I wish we could somehow keep track of FGs where the shooter’s standing on the line. The Gonzaga game had a ton of these shots, as was the case against UNC and again last night (a couple I can recall specifically, so maybe not a ton). I swear this is the magic pill. You can stank it up from three, but darnit if Allen or Summers gets a toe on the line, the percentage seemingly jumps significantly.

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by Spartalytical on Dec 5, 2009 1:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Meh is the new blah?

A horrible game, I thought, in front of a very quiet Bres.

The offense seemed out of sync, and the defense about as bad as I can remember it. It seemed like Wofford got 15 uncontested lay ups.

Why the turnovers? Pretty mind boggling that this team can not play a half of basketball without 8-10 turnovers, even against a team that plays a pretty passive defense. I agree that Summers and Roe seemed out to lunch. The end of the first half when Summers passed to the wrong side of Roe, who then let the defender pick his pocket, and then fouled him as he went up for a lay up was just about as sloppy a play as you will ever see in a top ten college program.

one question, though: why did Sherman and Nix not get more playing time? 4 and 3 minutes respectively. MSU will need them later in the season, and these are the kinds of games in which they could get experience.

by Anderlecht on Dec 5, 2009 8:59 AM CST reply actions  

Slow Starts

I have been trying to understand for several years, why the Spartans struggle so often in the first four minutes of games. I would think that there would be a game plan that they could execute effectively with their starters. Home or away, it doesn’t seem to matter. I tracked this last year and in about half the games or more, the team scored 6 or fewer points in the first four minutes. This year is no better -FGSU (4 pts.),Gonzaga (3 pts.), Toledo (9 pts.), Valpo (11 pts.), Florida (2 pts.), UMass (8 pts.), NC (6 pts.), Wofford (4 pts.). There must be a plausible explanation – I just don’t have it. If they can improve in this area, I think it sets the table for a huge psychological/confidence boost at the start of the game.

by donaldo on Dec 5, 2009 11:08 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

Agreed here too

Last night after the game, Doyle was talking to Morgan about the slow start, and Raymar said they’re coming out with low energy and they just need to pick it up. This drives me nuts. There’s no “just” about it. If that’s just all they needed to do, they’d do it. But it’s a more deeply-seated issue that’s persisted for some time, spanning several seasons. The team generally comes out flat, figures out that they need to dial it up a bit, and most times overcomes the uphill battle. This, too, is a stark difference between the truly elite teams and MSU.

Izzo’s talked about wanting to put opponents away and while I think that’s something this team also needs to be able to do, not digging a whole from which you have to climb is just as important. So, since this has been ongoing for quite some time, is it on Izzo?

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by Spartalytical on Dec 5, 2009 1:09 PM CST reply actions  

Preparation

I brought up the slow starts because it seems to be an endemic problem. I believe there are things Izzo can do to ameliorate the problem. I have to believe that the team comes into each game with some idea of how they intend to attack offensively. I would think that Izzo, like his buddy Mariucci, would script some plays for the beginning of the game to exploit defensive weaknesses. Additionally, Izzo could certainly call a quick timeout if he sees his players coming out with low energy. It would be much more valuable than saving it for the last 30 seconds at the end of the half, as he so often does. Digging our from a hole takes a lot of energy. You can’t do that too often against the good teams and expect to prevail.

by donaldo on Dec 5, 2009 2:44 PM CST reply actions  

Solution to Slow Starts

Here’s your solution to slow starts…His name is Draymond Green.

by Uncle Omar on Dec 6, 2009 5:38 PM CST reply actions  

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