Game Thread: Spartans vs. Bulldogs (of The Citadel Variety)
Michigan St. Spartans at The Citadel Bulldogs, Dec 7, 2009 6:05 PM CST
Pregame Linking Laconically (almost all football, for some reason)
- The Other Side of Spartan Sports: I'm Going to the Alamo Bowl, Are You?
Anybody going? - 2009 Bowl gifts to participants
Ipod Touch AND Dr. Dre headphones for the Spartans! - LSJ Blogs: Hey, Joe: Another big week
Stuart Dunnings to issue charges this week? - Central Michigan gets national ranking, GMAC bowl bid | detnews.com | The Detroit News
Hey, 4 of our 6 losses were to ranked teams. - How the Big Ten coaches voted in final poll - Big Ten Blog - ESPN
Mark Dantonio disses both his coaching mentor and his previous school by voting Texas #1. - Texas didn't save us from BCS chaos - it's already BCS chaos - Dr. Saturday - NCAAF Blog - Yahoo! Sports
Can someone explain to me how Texas' resume is clearly better than Cincinnati's? (Both teams with three wins over ranked teams, two by 3 points or fewer.) Or does Big 12 automatically beat Big East? - Brian Kelly confirms contact with Notre Dame; Jim Harbaugh reportedly a candidate - Chicago Breaking Sports
Who scares you more? - NCAA, TV talk about bigger men’s tourney
So a 96-team playoff for basketball is worth talking about, but a 6- or 8-team playoff for football isn't? - Career of an 'adventurer' spanned 32 years, entire globe and includes many Michigan State memories | MSU Spartans - - MLive.com
Steve Grinczel bids us farewell. Didn't always agree with his take on things, but I'll miss having a beat writer who knew as much about the history of MSU athletics as he does.
I should be actively engaged in tonight's game thread (having just recently discovered that I get ESPNU).
Go State! Beat the Bulldogs!
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Ouch...
MSU forgetting to defend the 3 already… disappointing.
Well, they're knocking down some tough looks, too
More disappointed that the early offense was so reliant on Morgan’s mismatch down low.
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 7, 2009 6:12 PM CST up reply actions
Another team lighting it up
Looks like another school that is saving its best shooting night for the Spartans. We more aggressive early on, which I’m glad to see, but still only 6 points in the first four minutes.
Good to see Lucious hit his first 3pt attempt
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 7, 2009 6:14 PM CST reply actions
Does Comcast in EL have ESPNU?
If so, what channel?
In the sports tier, last I knew
I’m watching on DirectTV
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 7, 2009 6:18 PM CST up reply actions
Anyone else...
feel like Kalin is playing for the NBA and not the team? Seems on that break he should have dished off to an open Raymar…. feel like he’s making the decision to keep it instead of dishing off in instances like that a lot…
I think Izzo teaches it that way
If you’ve got the edge to score or get fouled in transition, you take it.
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 7, 2009 6:22 PM CST up reply actions
Can't see game
Ironically no ESPNU in the dorms.
I’m more afraid of Harbaugh than Kelly. Kelly has spent no more than three years at any division one program, so there’s at least an outside shot that he is not good at evaluating talent in recruiting. Harbaugh also will want the same type of players on offense that we do, while Kelly is a spread guy.
Light a man a fire, he'll stay warm for a day.
Light a man afire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
I'll buy that
Harbaugh’s shown he can have success at a school that places a higher emphasis on academics.
Neither seems like an ideal fit from a personality/PR standpoint.
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 7, 2009 6:28 PM CST up reply actions
Behind the back and off the glass for KL
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 7, 2009 6:27 PM CST reply actions
Nice move...
go Kalin… and nice job by Sherman with the steal
Kalin forgot to even put a hand up on that 3....
and Summers continues to be MIA…. weird… my guess is girl problems :-).
Allen tried to switch when there was no pick
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 7, 2009 6:34 PM CST reply actions
This is like watching a more confident Northwestern on offense.
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 7, 2009 6:36 PM CST reply actions
+1
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 7, 2009 6:40 PM CST up reply actions
Attaboy, Chris
Shooting the ball when he catches it.
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 7, 2009 6:45 PM CST reply actions
Full-blown case of the Roes
Everything long.
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 7, 2009 6:48 PM CST up reply actions
I think everytime he gets fouled, he needs to pretend he is injured.
Then they pick someone else to shoot the free throw.
Bulldogs hit rim with 3/4-court shot to end half
Would have been perfect end to half if it went in.
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 7, 2009 6:51 PM CST reply actions
Good news...
is we’re still up at the half and the Citadel can’t possibly shoot that well for the second half (can they?)
First Half Stats
MSU up 40-36 in roughly 32 possessions.
The Citadel 8-10 on 3s, 3-12 on 2s.
23-8 rebounding edge for MSU.
7 points, 6 rebounds, 2 steals, 1 block for Roe
6 different Bulldogs have hit a 3. For those that don’t get ESPNU, trust me when I tell you that a number of the looks have been from well behind the line.
Give The Citadel a still-healthy 50% 3-point shooting percentage and we’re up 13.
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 7, 2009 6:55 PM CST reply actions
MNF
Harbaugh denies interest in the ND job.
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Light a man afire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
This team is a turnover machine....
I wonder what Bo Ryan says about that!
allens alright
sank a three ball. Very solid perimiter defender.
I think he needs to drive more. He seems to eb good at finishing. That shotll get hot though. I have faith.
and no negative vibes!
Go Green.
Drive more?
Allen should never drive. He turns it over every frickin time he does.
Second half start
5 points out of the gate in the second half in four and a half minutes. We have to improve at the start and out of halftime.
They are committing turnovers even when they are not doing fastbreak attacks..
Just lack of focus… and can’t live without turnovers.
So...
Apparently their hot shooting can keep up through the 2nd half. Tooo many uncontested shots.
Bulldogs under 80% on 3-pointers!
78.6%
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 7, 2009 7:25 PM CST reply actions
They're shooting out of their minds
I’ve never seen anything like it. Urbanus is 4-4 and every one was an NBA 3. They’ve got to cool off.
Urbanus hits 2-pointer after pump faking his man 6 feet behind 3pt line
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 7, 2009 7:36 PM CST reply actions
If Lucas would do that more often
we would get a lot more easy baskets. Two beautiful assists in the last few minutes.
For those that want to see the end
Found a link for a stream of the game
by AlkalineKidAP on Dec 7, 2009 7:39 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
No problem
Wish I would have looked for it sooner.
by AlkalineKidAP on Dec 7, 2009 7:43 PM CST up reply actions
Wait a minute
You’re supposed to attend all MSU games played in the Carolinas in person, T.
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 7, 2009 7:44 PM CST up reply actions
I thought it was ACC games only?
I’ll make the trek to Miami or Boston, but not to Charleston. Actually, I wish was in Charleston… Great city.
OK
Not technically part of your contract.
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 7, 2009 7:47 PM CST up reply actions
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in grad school class keeping up with game on phone. No adobe for palm pre until 2010 foiled again.
feed the big boys. Milk that lead!!
the cooler.
keep scoring off their ricks. Keep it up!
Everyone panicking?
Yes, we have holes. It’s December. As a fanbase, we can certainly pull the Debbie Downer bit.
I shall not apologize for my downerness
I want just one season of staying in the top 10 all year.
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 7, 2009 7:48 PM CST up reply actions
I want to be ELITE!
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 7, 2009 7:50 PM CST up reply actions
We are.
Ask anyone not in East Lansing. Ask the national people. They’ll tell you we are plenty elite.
Certainly in NCAA results, which matter most
But not in the regular season. Haven’t been a #1 seed since 2001.
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 7, 2009 7:56 PM CST up reply actions
You have a point.
But I can only name two programs significantly better than ours since 99. Kansas and UNC. And UNC was god-awful in the Guthridge/Doherty years.
Those guys pick their players out of a catalog. We can’t do that. I’ll take what we have quite happily.
Agreed
Just being greedy.
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 7, 2009 8:02 PM CST up reply actions
Again...I'm not being nasty.
But I ask my Spartan bretheren to look at Illinois after 05, or UCLA this year and last year, or LSU since 06. Lots of schools make it once or twice and then hit the skids, comparatively speaking. To do what State has done is rare. We had the two first round exits in the Davis years, which were very disappointing, and we finally ended that Big 10 title drought last year. But we’ve never been downright bad, and pretty much everyone else has at one point or another.
Right.. it'd be so nice
not to lose to the early season games… but still… hard pressed to find a coach that gets a team playing their best come March.
Not bashing anyone in particular.
Just the base overall tends to overreact to early season troubles, like everyone saying this is the 05-06 team. That team had size and a freshman point guard. Totally different animal.
Yeah, I understand what you're saying
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 7, 2009 7:52 PM CST up reply actions
Other teams are capable of playing really well in Nov. and Dec.
I believe we can too. Seems like a reasonable expectation.
Those teams...
don’t run 40 plays. Even the Gold Standard Izzo teams struggled early. It’s the nature of the system.
I've been asking the same thing the past two years
I swear these guys forgot that the line was moved back a foot.
Wow
Lot of Spartans down there.
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13-point win
Hit the Sagarin line (12.5).
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 7, 2009 7:57 PM CST reply actions
Question
Is there something this team can do defensively to cut down opposing three point %? Or is it just bad luck?
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It's bad luck.
Stats-wise, we’re actually pretty good defending the 3. 27% before tonight.
The % people are shooting from 2 against us is a much larger problem.

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