Game Thread: Spartans vs. Bulldogs (of The Citadel Variety)
Michigan St. Spartans at The Citadel Bulldogs, Dec 7, 2009 6:05 PM CST
Pregame Linking Laconically (almost all football, for some reason)
- The Other Side of Spartan Sports: I'm Going to the Alamo Bowl, Are You?
Anybody going? - 2009 Bowl gifts to participants
Ipod Touch AND Dr. Dre headphones for the Spartans! - LSJ Blogs: Hey, Joe: Another big week
Stuart Dunnings to issue charges this week? - Central Michigan gets national ranking, GMAC bowl bid | detnews.com | The Detroit News
Hey, 4 of our 6 losses were to ranked teams. - How the Big Ten coaches voted in final poll - Big Ten Blog - ESPN
Mark Dantonio disses both his coaching mentor and his previous school by voting Texas #1. - Texas didn't save us from BCS chaos - it's already BCS chaos - Dr. Saturday - NCAAF Blog - Yahoo! Sports
Can someone explain to me how Texas' resume is clearly better than Cincinnati's? (Both teams with three wins over ranked teams, two by 3 points or fewer.) Or does Big 12 automatically beat Big East? - Brian Kelly confirms contact with Notre Dame; Jim Harbaugh reportedly a candidate - Chicago Breaking Sports
Who scares you more? - NCAA, TV talk about bigger men’s tourney
So a 96-team playoff for basketball is worth talking about, but a 6- or 8-team playoff for football isn't? - Career of an 'adventurer' spanned 32 years, entire globe and includes many Michigan State memories | MSU Spartans - - MLive.com
Steve Grinczel bids us farewell. Didn't always agree with his take on things, but I'll miss having a beat writer who knew as much about the history of MSU athletics as he does.
I should be actively engaged in tonight's game thread (having just recently discovered that I get ESPNU).
Go State! Beat the Bulldogs!
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Ouch...
MSU forgetting to defend the 3 already… disappointing.
by MooTheKow on Dec 7, 2009 6:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Well, they're knocking down some tough looks, too
More disappointed that the early offense was so reliant on Morgan’s mismatch down low.
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 7, 2009 6:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Another team lighting it up
Looks like another school that is saving its best shooting night for the Spartans. We more aggressive early on, which I’m glad to see, but still only 6 points in the first four minutes.
by donaldo on Dec 7, 2009 6:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Good to see Lucious hit his first 3pt attempt
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 7, 2009 6:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Does Comcast in EL have ESPNU?
If so, what channel?
by AlkalineKidAP on Dec 7, 2009 6:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
In the sports tier, last I knew
I’m watching on DirectTV
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 7, 2009 6:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This could be the day...
That Nix hits another free throw.
by donaldo on Dec 7, 2009 6:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Anyone else...
feel like Kalin is playing for the NBA and not the team? Seems on that break he should have dished off to an open Raymar…. feel like he’s making the decision to keep it instead of dishing off in instances like that a lot…
by MooTheKow on Dec 7, 2009 6:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think Izzo teaches it that way
If you’ve got the edge to score or get fouled in transition, you take it.
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 7, 2009 6:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Can't see game
Ironically no ESPNU in the dorms.
I’m more afraid of Harbaugh than Kelly. Kelly has spent no more than three years at any division one program, so there’s at least an outside shot that he is not good at evaluating talent in recruiting. Harbaugh also will want the same type of players on offense that we do, while Kelly is a spread guy.
Light a man a fire, he'll stay warm for a day.
Light a man afire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
by Seer on Dec 7, 2009 6:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'll buy that
Harbaugh’s shown he can have success at a school that places a higher emphasis on academics.
Neither seems like an ideal fit from a personality/PR standpoint.
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 7, 2009 6:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
5 assists on 5 fg is going to happen
when all your shots are 3’s
by Chris in Kzoo on Dec 7, 2009 6:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Delvon's gonna score some points this year.
He looks quick.
by donaldo on Dec 7, 2009 6:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Behind the back and off the glass for KL
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 7, 2009 6:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Nice move...
go Kalin… and nice job by Sherman with the steal
by MooTheKow on Dec 7, 2009 6:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Chris Allen.. How many times do the coaches have to tell you?
SHOOT THE BALL!
by Chris in Kzoo on Dec 7, 2009 6:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Kalin forgot to even put a hand up on that 3....
and Summers continues to be MIA…. weird… my guess is girl problems :-).
by MooTheKow on Dec 7, 2009 6:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Chris Allen with 2 bad plays in a row.
What was he thinking with that switch on defense?
by Chris in Kzoo on Dec 7, 2009 6:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Allen tried to switch when there was no pick
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 7, 2009 6:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
This is like watching a more confident Northwestern on offense.
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 7, 2009 6:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
A fire needs to be lit...
under Summers and Allen. They have disappeared, and we need them.
by donaldo on Dec 7, 2009 6:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
+1
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 7, 2009 6:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Attaboy, Chris
Shooting the ball when he catches it.
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 7, 2009 6:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Full-blown case of the Roes
Everything long.
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 7, 2009 6:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think everytime he gets fouled, he needs to pretend he is injured.
Then they pick someone else to shoot the free throw.
by donaldo on Dec 7, 2009 6:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Bulldogs hit rim with 3/4-court shot to end half
Would have been perfect end to half if it went in.
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 7, 2009 6:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Good news...
is we’re still up at the half and the Citadel can’t possibly shoot that well for the second half (can they?)
by MooTheKow on Dec 7, 2009 6:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
First Half Stats
MSU up 40-36 in roughly 32 possessions.
The Citadel 8-10 on 3s, 3-12 on 2s.
23-8 rebounding edge for MSU.
7 points, 6 rebounds, 2 steals, 1 block for Roe
6 different Bulldogs have hit a 3. For those that don’t get ESPNU, trust me when I tell you that a number of the looks have been from well behind the line.
Give The Citadel a still-healthy 50% 3-point shooting percentage and we’re up 13.
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 7, 2009 6:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
MNF
Harbaugh denies interest in the ND job.
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by Seer on Dec 7, 2009 7:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
This team is a turnover machine....
I wonder what Bo Ryan says about that!
by MKgreen on Dec 7, 2009 7:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Allen's finally hitting some shots
and he’s giving it away on the other end.
by donaldo on Dec 7, 2009 7:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
allens alright
sank a three ball. Very solid perimiter defender.
I think he needs to drive more. He seems to eb good at finishing. That shotll get hot though. I have faith.
and no negative vibes!
Go Green.
by zachjuett on Dec 7, 2009 7:16 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Drive more?
Allen should never drive. He turns it over every frickin time he does.
by MooTheKow on Dec 7, 2009 7:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Second half start
5 points out of the gate in the second half in four and a half minutes. We have to improve at the start and out of halftime.
by donaldo on Dec 7, 2009 7:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
They are committing turnovers even when they are not doing fastbreak attacks..
Just lack of focus… and can’t live without turnovers.
by MKgreen on Dec 7, 2009 7:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
So...
Apparently their hot shooting can keep up through the 2nd half. Tooo many uncontested shots.
by MooTheKow on Dec 7, 2009 7:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Bulldogs under 80% on 3-pointers!
78.6%
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 7, 2009 7:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
They're shooting out of their minds
I’ve never seen anything like it. Urbanus is 4-4 and every one was an NBA 3. They’ve got to cool off.
by Con-T on Dec 7, 2009 7:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I have to wonder...
about the effect on my lifespan watcing these games.
by donaldo on Dec 7, 2009 7:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Urbanus hits 2-pointer after pump faking his man 6 feet behind 3pt line
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 7, 2009 7:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
If Lucas would do that more often
we would get a lot more easy baskets. Two beautiful assists in the last few minutes.
by donaldo on Dec 7, 2009 7:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
For those that want to see the end
Found a link for a stream of the game
by AlkalineKidAP on Dec 7, 2009 7:39 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
No problem
Wish I would have looked for it sooner.
by AlkalineKidAP on Dec 7, 2009 7:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Me too
Better late than never. Go Green.
by TMadison25 on Dec 7, 2009 7:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wait a minute
You’re supposed to attend all MSU games played in the Carolinas in person, T.
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 7, 2009 7:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought it was ACC games only?
I’ll make the trek to Miami or Boston, but not to Charleston. Actually, I wish was in Charleston… Great city.
by TMadison25 on Dec 7, 2009 7:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
OK
Not technically part of your contract.
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 7, 2009 7:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
f
in grad school class keeping up with game on phone. No adobe for palm pre until 2010 foiled again.
feed the big boys. Milk that lead!!
by zachjuett on Dec 7, 2009 7:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
the cooler.
keep scoring off their ricks. Keep it up!
by zachjuett on Dec 7, 2009 7:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Everyone panicking?
Yes, we have holes. It’s December. As a fanbase, we can certainly pull the Debbie Downer bit.
by rook34 on Dec 7, 2009 7:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I shall not apologize for my downerness
I want just one season of staying in the top 10 all year.
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 7, 2009 7:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I want to be ELITE!
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 7, 2009 7:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We are.
Ask anyone not in East Lansing. Ask the national people. They’ll tell you we are plenty elite.
by rook34 on Dec 7, 2009 7:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Certainly in NCAA results, which matter most
But not in the regular season. Haven’t been a #1 seed since 2001.
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 7, 2009 7:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You have a point.
But I can only name two programs significantly better than ours since 99. Kansas and UNC. And UNC was god-awful in the Guthridge/Doherty years.
Those guys pick their players out of a catalog. We can’t do that. I’ll take what we have quite happily.
by rook34 on Dec 7, 2009 8:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Just being greedy.
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 7, 2009 8:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Again...I'm not being nasty.
But I ask my Spartan bretheren to look at Illinois after 05, or UCLA this year and last year, or LSU since 06. Lots of schools make it once or twice and then hit the skids, comparatively speaking. To do what State has done is rare. We had the two first round exits in the Davis years, which were very disappointing, and we finally ended that Big 10 title drought last year. But we’ve never been downright bad, and pretty much everyone else has at one point or another.
by rook34 on Dec 7, 2009 8:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Right.. it'd be so nice
not to lose to the early season games… but still… hard pressed to find a coach that gets a team playing their best come March.
by TMadison25 on Dec 7, 2009 7:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not bashing anyone in particular.
Just the base overall tends to overreact to early season troubles, like everyone saying this is the 05-06 team. That team had size and a freshman point guard. Totally different animal.
by rook34 on Dec 7, 2009 7:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I understand what you're saying
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 7, 2009 7:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Looking good, Delvon.
Right until that second free throw.
by rook34 on Dec 7, 2009 7:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
52% FT
for Delvon? I thought we addressed this?
by TMadison25 on Dec 7, 2009 7:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Duke by three
I mean.. die by the three.
by TMadison25 on Dec 7, 2009 7:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Other teams are capable of playing really well in Nov. and Dec.
I believe we can too. Seems like a reasonable expectation.
by donaldo on Dec 7, 2009 7:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Those teams...
don’t run 40 plays. Even the Gold Standard Izzo teams struggled early. It’s the nature of the system.
by rook34 on Dec 7, 2009 7:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I am actually encouraged...
by the offensive execution the last few trips.
by rook34 on Dec 7, 2009 7:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Foot on the line
Have we ever taken a three? Or are they all deep twos?
by TMadison25 on Dec 7, 2009 7:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I've been asking the same thing the past two years
I swear these guys forgot that the line was moved back a foot.
by SpartanDan on Dec 7, 2009 8:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
Lot of Spartans down there.
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by Seer on Dec 7, 2009 7:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
13-point win
Hit the Sagarin line (12.5).
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Dec 7, 2009 7:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Durrell...
the season has begun. We need you. That is all.
by rook34 on Dec 7, 2009 7:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Question
Is there something this team can do defensively to cut down opposing three point %? Or is it just bad luck?
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by Seer on Dec 7, 2009 8:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
It's bad luck.
Stats-wise, we’re actually pretty good defending the 3. 27% before tonight.
The % people are shooting from 2 against us is a much larger problem.
by rook34 on Dec 7, 2009 8:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

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