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TOC Round Table: Who should be at the gym right now?

Which hoops player needs to make the biggest improvement this offseason for the team to achieve the top-5 level most pundits are assigning to them going into next season?

Pete: Tom Herzog.  It'd be nice if Garrick Sherman or Derrick Nix could step in early and provide a boost at the post, but the last person to do that was Paul Davis.  Herzog's been here for a couple years, and his heart, focus, and determination have never been in question, just the ability of his digestive system to take nutrients and turn them into muscle.  If he gains ten pounds of biceps and triceps and makes three or four plays a game like the start of the Wisconsin game last year, State's going to fly.

LVS: The easy answer is Chris Allen, and I'll stick with that.  It's true that he improved his game in many ways this past season--especially his ball handling and defense--but we absolutely need him to shoot better if we're going to be successful.  Durrell Summers can serve as our assassin in a pinch, but that's really Allen's job, and I expect that Chris will be much better in 2010.

Steve: I think one wing and one big need to make a substantial jump over their 2008-09 levels in order for the Spartans to contend nationally. The best candidates to make the leap are Durrell Summers and Delvon Roe, with Chris Allen and Draymond Green as Plan B at their respective positions. (Ideally, and not unlikely, it’s all four.) I also think Korie Lucious will develop to at least the level of Summers/Allen’s sophomore seasons.

KJ: I think you have to look at the big men as the keys.  With the Lucas/Lucious/Allen/Summers/Morgan quintet available to fill the three perimeter spots, the the team should be in good shape, even if one of them is struggling at any given time.  As we've previously discussed, though, there's no proven depth up front once you get past Roe and Green.  In a perfect world, Pete's scenario for Herzog plays out.  Otherwise, I think the answer to the question may actually be a new player, rather than a returning player: Garrick Sherman will need to quickly move from being a solid high school recruit to being a college freshman with enough skill/toughness to give his team 15-20 minutes per game.  (So my answer is basically Pete's answer played backward on the turn table.)

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Which basketball player needs to show the most improvement going into next season?
Chris Allen
42 votes
Durrell Summers
5 votes
Delvon Roe
30 votes
Tom Herzog
94 votes
Garrick Sherman
8 votes
Other
2 votes

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the biggest weakness is clearly at the 4 and 5 positions. I agree with the comments that either Herzog, Sherman or Nix need to step up. But let’s not forget that Roe’s improvement will go a long way to take pressure off of the former. If Roe makes the same kind of jump up that Cleaves did between his freshmen and sophomore years (both were in the situation of coming off of major injuries), the team will do just fine with a couple warm bodies at the 5.

I also expect a monster senior year from Morgan. Remember, if he had not had the miserable last half of the season due to mono and a pneumonia, he’d probably have left school for the NBA. Look for him to be stronger on defense and to have extended his shooting range to be a serviceable three point shooter.

by Anderlecht on Jul 2, 2009 7:53 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It's got to be a front court player

We’re OK in the backcourt if Summers or Allen can become our designated sharp shooter. We don’t need both of them hot as long as they are a decent threat to score and both play good D. In the front court we have to find someone who is capable of giving us a decent number of minutes at the 5. Roe, hopefully, will develop into something of a force on offense. If he can provide consistent scoring in the front court all we need at the 5 is decent D, some rebounding, and the occassional putback. Hopefully Herzog or one of the frosh big men will be able to provide that.

by TheCrestedHelm on Jul 2, 2009 10:04 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think Herzog needs to make the most improvment but the last place I want to see him is the gym. He needs to be in the weight room and out at a resturant eating.

For player I think should be in the gym its Morgan. With the amount of time he missed this past year the more time he can spend with the ball the better. We can make all the imporments in the we want from the guys like Roe, Green, Allen, but I think we need Morgan to step up and be the BTPOY type guy he can be if we are gonna win it all.

"There are no next times when you're competing for big things." - Tom Izzo
Go Spartans

by msufan23 on Jul 2, 2009 1:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Most Improvement

I’m going with Allen. We need consistency from him. If he can become a cosistent deep threat, things will open up on the inside for the less experienced bigs -Herzog, Sherman, Nix, and Roe. Allen’s 1 for 7 shooting games had a deflating effect on the team. We need his points, and then the bigs can focus on defense and rebounding.

by donaldo on Jul 2, 2009 3:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Improving

I voted with Delvon Roe. I think that most people are expecting him to improve a great deal, so if he does not we might be in some trouble. Already in two of the previous posts, his potential improvement is mentioned. It would be great to see improvements in the area of strength and conditioning on the part of Tom Herzog, but I have a feeling that Sherman and Nix are going to walk in the door next season at almost the same level and get more minutes based on their potential for growth.

by Gym_Rat on Jul 3, 2009 6:39 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think your crazy if you think Sherman and Nix will be at Herzogs level in a lot of things. Nix for one is gonna need a lot of work on his body. He is coming to MSU in what most would call not the greatest shape. The chances Sherman and Nix being able to contribute as much as Roe and Green did this past year is slim. I think Herzog a guy that Izzo has been working with 3 years is much more likely to step up now that 3 big men have moved on

"There are no next times when you're competing for big things." - Tom Izzo
Go Spartans

by msufan23 on Jul 3, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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