Michigan State 34, Wisconsin 24 -- Rebirth of the Pass Defense
Dreaming big can be scary. When envisioning your favorite team winning a big game, you set yourself up for a letdown that feels ten times worse than the thought of victory. Throughout the second half of yesterday's game, I kept looking for signs of a collapse, whether it be the Spartans turning the ball over on downs or James White running down the sideline for a score. In the middle of the 4th quarter though, anything that could've hinted at a possible collapse vanished as Michigan State embarked on a 15-play, 78 84-yard drive to score the game-sealing touchdown and secure a 34-24 victory over the Wisconsin Badgers.
The offense, excluding the two dumb turnovers (Cousins's first interception and Nichol's fumble - the second interception was the unfortunate result of a tipped ball), was great all day. While the running game wasn't as robust as it has been in previous games, with an average of 3.9 yards per carry, it was still plenty effective with Edwin Baker and Le'Veon Bell doing the heavy lifting. Bell and Baker combined for 34 carries and 162 yards. Larry Caper only touched the ball four times, but one of those touches was a key offensive play; a 35-yard screen on 3rd and 11 during the game-clinching drive.
Kirk Cousins is establishing a routine against top-tier opponents. He is somewhat effective the first half of the game with one or two mind-bending brain farts that usually lead to turnovers. The second half he's insanely effective while taking a couple sacks, and the numbers bear this out. Kirk completed 8 of 10 passes for 118 yards and 2 touchdowns. Mark Dell is becoming more visible by the week, leading the MSU receivers with six receptions for 91 yards and a touchdown. At this point in the season, there is not one unit on the offense that I would not describe as "strong", with a qualifier describing the offensive line as "inconsistent."
Over the past couple weeks there has been much hand-wringing about the state of the pass defense, and today was apparently a great step forward in that regard. Scott Tolzien was only 11 for 25 for 127 yards on the day, and five of Tolzien's 14 incompletions were results of pass breakups by the MSU defense. The pressure still needs some work as Tolzien was sacked just once, but at least the Spartans aren't giving out yards by the bucketful now. The rush defense was a mixed bag, as James White came one yard short of 100 on only ten carries, but John Clay was held under 100 yards for the first time in the past 11 games. Against what some have called the best rushing attack in the Big Ten, I think the rush defense was plenty acceptable.
The offense and defense both played good games, but the special teams might have been the best part of the day. Dan Conroy continued his kicking perfection with a pair of 36-yard field goals; he is now seven-for-seven on field goals for the season. Keshawn Martin tallied his first return touchdown on the season, a 74-yard fairly straight-ahead punt return that exploited a line-drive punt. Kevin Muma averaged 65 a kickoff, which means that the ball usually lands at the five yard line. I can live with that; I think that kickoff yardage is greatly overrated unless the ball's landing at the 20 every time.
All in all, this is the most complete performance from a Michigan State football team I can remember in some time. The time for celebration is winding down though, and up next is a Michigan team that may be very good or merely OK. I've got no idea what to except from this game expect a heap of points - Denard Robinson will get his yards, and Michigan State will surely get theirs as well. More on the game later in the week, but for now, let your enjoyment of the past victory morph into hatred - glorious, glorious hatred.
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I hate, I hate, I hate
it is all I am programmed to do. I hate. /Patton Oswalt
Es gibt keine Freude wie Schadenfreude
Oh, do we play Michigan this week?
Yawn. Wake me when we play Iowa.
by CPT Hoolie on Oct 3, 2010 7:40 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
You mean you don’t want to watch the best player in CFB break another record? OK…
by Pinchy The Lobster on Oct 3, 2010 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Records?
The reason Robinson is breaking all of U of M’s yardage records is not because their offense is some kind of juggernaut. Its because U of M has never been so one dimensional and devoid of talent in other positions. Henne handed off to Hart but could also throw to Edwards. Grbac handed it to Wheatley but also threw to Desmond Howard. Brady (stop acting like you loved him scUM fans, you all wanted Drew Henson) handed it to Thomas and threw it to David Terrell. Navarre to Perry and then throwing to Walker or Avant. Get the picture? Robinson hands it to….I can’t name one of their running backs. Then he throws it to…Stonum? Does he still play there? On defense U of M is led by……only reason I know Kovacs it because they always mention him in highlights as someone goes by him. I’m sure Charles Woodson and Ty Law are real proud of that secondary. Larry Foote probably feels great as Ben Chappell throws for 480 yards on Michigan. I’m sure it warms Lamar Woodley’s heart to see your defense give up 38 points to UMASS.
Go Green
by That Guy Green on Oct 3, 2010 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Robinson 277 pass 217 run 0 INT and only 1 INT on the year.
Cousins 269 2 INT
It’s obvious who the better QB is.
by Pinchy The Lobster on Oct 3, 2010 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions
The answer is "c", none of the above.
It’s Cameron Newton, Auburn.
And are you trying to say that Denard has 0 interceptions on running plays, or is that a typo?
by CPT Hoolie on Oct 3, 2010 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
No. I’m just saying Cousins already has 9 INTs to Robinson’s 1
by Pinchy The Lobster on Oct 3, 2010 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions
You are right. I’ve had enough of this anyways ;) Great win for you guys Sat. Hope for a good game next week!
by Pinchy The Lobster on Oct 3, 2010 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Likewise.
Denard is very exciting to watch. That was a great final drive to beat Indiana. I hope for a good game, too.
he stopped arguing
because he realized that he didn’t know anything. At least he wasn’t a typical UM fan who keeps arguing even if they know they are wrong
Ooonst ooonst muthafucka!
Please, tell me what team currently has the worst pass defense in the FBS...
…in terms of yards, yards/game, and is in the bottom quartile in yards/attempt.
That will go a long way toward who is the better quarterback on the field next Saturday.
That’s a lot of Michigan players that you know of. I can only remember like 2 MSU guys from the last 10 yrs. Plexico and… and…. and…. eh, maybe just one.
by Pinchy The Lobster on Oct 3, 2010 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Thank you for proving my point
Michigan has had some unbelievable players in the past. Now? Not so much. Do they have a future pro? And no Denard will not be a pro. Could maybe go the Randle-El route. 1 Int on the year because he throws the ball 3-5 yards down field.
I’m sure you cannot recall any MSU players. You wonder why no matter where you are in the Big Ten everyone cheers your losses. It isn’t because “you’re the best” or any of that garbage. People don’t boo Ohio State like that even though they have been, easily, the best program in the Big Ten for the last decade.
scUM players remember Javon Ringer’s name, they saw a ton of the back of his jersey.
by That Guy Green on Oct 4, 2010 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions
The whole "what names do you know" game seems pretty irrelevant
All depends on how and where you follow college football. I can name more MSU players than UM players and remember more UM players than Alabama players. I can also name more Ohio Bobcats than UM from the past two years. What does all this tell you? Not much.
There ya go, resort to wishing for injury.
by Pinchy The Lobster on Oct 3, 2010 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't wish it
I just know it’ll happen sometime this season.
Es gibt keine Freude wie Schadenfreude
Ah, the trash talkers are showing up. Thanks for stopping by!
While you’re here, please tell me what you consider quality wins for Michigan? None has been by more than a touchdown except UConn and against a really awful Bowling Green team. UConn? Indiana? Certainly not ND or UMass (I could hear the sound of Brian Cook downloading kittens and emo photos again).
Sure Michigan has BOOM DENARDED many wonderfully helpless tasty cupcakes. But Denard can’t score if Denard is on the bench and GERG’s guys are on the field.
Here’s how this is gonna go:
MSU gets the ball first. Run run pass run run run run pass run play action pass touchdown.
Michigan gets the ball. Denard does his thing but can’t get it into the end zone, field goal Michigan.
MSU gets the ball back. Run pass run run run pass run run pass run run run run pass run touchdown.
Michigan gets the ball. GET READY TO GET BOOM DENARDED holy crap it’s halftime already.
by CPT Hoolie on Oct 3, 2010 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I ain't the one trolling on the opponent's blog.
What did you expect? Us to fall and worship at the shoelaceless feet of Denard? At least if you’re gonna bring it, bring some meaningful statistical analysis.
Tell you what, you can have him. He’s very exciting and blah blah blah. But that defense….I forsee a collapse similar to the sort you guys would accuse Sparty of having. Meanwhile MSU, win or lose, will move on and take care of business the rest of the season, probably not losing again until Iowa, and finishing 10-2.
Not trolling. My initial comment was pretty harmless. It was the broken bones and “scUM” that kept me around.
by Pinchy The Lobster on Oct 3, 2010 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions
"Broken Bones" made you try to compare Cousins' and Denard's INT ratio?
“scUM” (ugh, I hate that too) made you play the “How many Big10 championships have you won” card?
So what made you try to play the “MSU fans can remember UM players, but UM fans would never be able to remember MSU players”?
Don't worry, dear sweet Pinchy
We will cry while we’re eating you on Saturday because, let’s be honest, you would have wanted it that way.
by Ducking Delvon on Oct 4, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Don't sell them short
they’ve made one (1).
To be fair, though, all their kickers are exhaused from kicking extra points.
And how many _good_ teams has Denard gone up against?
If we’re going to just look at a teams performance based on playing crap competition – we might as well have anointed Wisconsin national champions the week before they played MSU because they won 70-3.
Now, I’m not saying Robinson hasn’t been putting up great numbers — but those sorts of things are HIGHLY dependent on the level of competition they are against. Tate was getting Heisman talk at this point last season too. And while it’s great for him to be able to put up huge passing AND rushing numbers – the reality of the matter is that it isn’t a practical way to run the offense. I am pretty sure given the choice between have a QB that can pass/rush for 200 yards of each per game or a QB that passes for 200 yards+ a RB that rushes for 200 yards a game most coaches would choose the latter. Spreading the yards out amongst multiple players has many benefits:
- if a single player has a bad game – others can pick up the slack.
- If a single player is injured the entire team isn’t done for as there are still other options.
One win away from bowl eligibility
Last year, we took that business down to the wire. I like it this way more.
What a difference a Le’Veon Bell makes.
Michigan
All scUM fans don’t seem to realize (or are unwilling to accept) the fact that they now play second fiddle to MSU. It is more and more apparent every year. Let’s look closer:
In basketball is has been glaringly obvious for a decade now. scUM gets what Izzo does not want without fail in recruiting. They get someone like Manny Harris and we take Chris Allen, Durrell Summer and Kalin Lucas in the same class. The basketball argument is beating a dead horse as its obvious MSU is the class of the Big Ten, not just the state of Michigan.
In football MSU has become what Michigan used to be. Dantonio loads up on local talent by reaching to Detroit and Ohio for a majority of his commits. In the past if a kid was talented and from Detroit he was a lock for scUM. No longer. Ask Will Gholston or Lawrence Thomas.
Michigan State features a power run game that can pass when needed very effectively. Their defense is physical and swarms to ball carriers with talented linebackers.
scUM lines up in a spread that features a talented QB and not much else. Their defense allows gash after long gash via the pass and run and cannot sustain a drive longer than 8 plays without a long TD or a punt.
Their defense lost the last remnant they had of an NFL talent last year in Graham. When was the last time U of M did not have NFL talent jumping off the page in a number of positions? None at all must be hard to take. scUM is MSU under John L. Smith. Talented QB (Drew Stanton) and then a bunch of rag tags that put together some solid games but fall apart completely against steady and strong opponents.
Go Green
In football MSU has become what Michigan used to be.
LOL. Really? How many Big10 championships have you won since you have taken over Michigans role?
by Pinchy The Lobster on Oct 3, 2010 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions
So you are on your second year of taking over Michigan’s role? Let me know when you can get more than 2 winning seasons in a row going. You almost hit 3.
by Pinchy The Lobster on Oct 3, 2010 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions
The current reality is hard to accept
I understand your reluctance to accept what is right in front of you. I’m sure you are someone who thinks Michigan Hoops has not fallen behind MSU as well right? Comical.
by That Guy Green on Oct 4, 2010 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions
4th Quarter drive
For the record, the final drive that sealed the game was a 15 play, 84 yard drive. It was beautiful to watch….
Conroy
I’m so pleasantly surprised at how awesome he’s been so far this year. I was worried we were headed for another year like 2005 when John Goss and co. only hit 31% of their attempts. We were spoiled with Brett Swenson, but Conroy has picked up right where Swenson left off. Well done.
Right down the middle, every time.
I’m not even sure what the issue was during camp that this was still any kind of competition between he and Muma. Unless Muma turns into ROBO-KICKER 3000 in 2 years.
Conroy...
…must be one of those guys who doesn’t look as great in practice, but performs when the lights come on for real. Or we have two really good kickers.
Very excited for the game
I’m not wishing for any broken bones for Denard. I don’t want to hear any excuses if MSU wins.
Ugh, can I please make a request?
None of this “scUM” business this week. It makes us (and, specifically, you, whomever is commenting) look no better than the Walmart Wolverines who call MSU “little brother.” The University of Michigan is not scum. Let’s stop playing to their level and not perpetuate stupid rival nicknames started over at other decidedly less awesome and more ridiculous MSU blogs (cough cough ENLIGHTENED SPARTAN cough).
by CEO on Oct 4, 2010 9:40 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
They are scum
As I hope to demonstrate in a fan post later this week, Michigan has been a threat to MSU’s existence and growth for many year. I have no love for them this week, and unlike those heathens I have reason on my side.
Es gibt keine Freude wie Schadenfreude
I'm not saying I have love for them.
Believe me, I don’t. If you want to call them scUM, that’s fine — just realize that it makes you look less like a member of the Spartan faithful and more like one of the trolls on the Freep comments or the RCMB.
(In other words, it makes people buy into the idea that the only reason you’re a Spartan fan is because you didn’t get into UMich — and we all know it was a voluntary choice to be anti-Wolverine.)
You are correct.
The University of Michigan has contested:
1. Our creation.
2. Our advancement to University status.
3. Our entry into the Big Ten athletic conference (and CIC).
4. Our accession of a law school.
From their standpoint, many of these actions are justified. We have definitely expanded outside of what our original charter dictated. It was in their self interest to see that we did not.
Not unforgivable, definitely not enlightened or even generous on their part.
Still, calling them “scUM” makes you sound like a child trying to get a rise by using “dirty” words.
I prefer to take the high road. You may not, but I shall.
Nice win vs Wisco
Should be a Battle Royal on Saturday. Best way to stop Denard is to tackle him, but so far very few people have been able to do it. We’ll see how MSU does.
Anyway, my fellow blogging e-friends at The Only Colors……any of you going to the game? We’ll be set up in the Fingerle’s Lumber Yard, I’d love to extend an olive branch to my MSU friends and please stop on by. You guys have linked me in the past in posts and on the sidebar, and the very least I could do is invite you all over.
Should be a fun day, but a LOOOOOONG week. Holy heck, its not even lunch on Monday
Go Blue
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I'll be in Ann Arbor
Not sure if I’m going to the game yet. But if I’m in the area, I’ll be sure to stop by.
by Pete Rossman on Oct 4, 2010 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks Jamiemac.
Are you doing line movement analysis for this game on MGoBlog or Just Cover? I can’t get to Just Cover (blocked as a “gambling” website here) and have been having certificate problems of late getting on the MGoBlog.
I would think the best way to stop Denard...
…is to keep Michigan’s offense off the field. They can’t score if Denard can’t touch the ball.
Enough of the praddle with the crawfish
The corners and safeties were in tight coverage and had a lot of breakups, haven’t seen that since Amp & Hill. Second, although they had only one sack, they knocked
Tolzien around quite a bit. Cousins is what he is – I’ll take a pass into triple coverage when it is offset by that strike to Dell, the 30 yard pass to Martin over the middle and the perfect lob to Cunningham.
Anyone see what happened to Michael Vick? Sam McGuffie ring any bells, or is that bell rung?
"Stupid Turnovers," etc.
While Kirk’s first INT was definitely a brain-fart, replays appeared to show Nichol attempting to cover up the ball with both hands as soon as he turned away from the first Wisconsin defender, only to have the ball knocked out by a pitch perfect play by the second defender (a LB?). At least that was my perspective, I could be off.
I’d also be leery of claiming that James White was overly impressive. He had a solid day, but let’s not forget that 50 of those 98 yards were on 2 carries. Both were on blitzes up the middle where he was able to successfully bounce outside. The second one saw a great crack-back block on Trenton Robinson and Johnny Adams unable to keep contain as a result of following the receiver too far inside.
Regardless, my first post at TOC, and looking forward to more! Great stuff!
Yep, that second White TD is a 3 yard gain max
if Johnny just looks past the receiver once it’s clear it’s a run play. Robinson would’ve made a great play to recognize the crack-back and slip past it, but if Johnny simply sees the play beyond the head of WR he is covering, it’s a 3 yard gain max. Saw that one several times on replay. Glorious, glorious replay.
Simplest game of the year coming up
Tackle Denard = win
Don’t tackle Denard = lose.
MSU has plenty of team speed on defense to get near him. They need to bring him down at first contact almost every time.
Bad News
At least bad news for those of us entralled by the 8 minute drive at the end of the Wisco game. There won’t be any of those this week.
I hope our offense is in good shape.....
…cuz they’re gonna be on the field a lot, running 80 yard wind sprints to the end zone!
When was the last time...
We beat a ranked opponent and they did not fall out of the top 25? Wisconsin 2004?
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