Off and Running (and Then Running Some More): Michigan State 96, Eastern Michigan 66
That, my friends, was a 90-possession basketball game. This was the most up-tempo Michigan State game of the KenPom era, beating the the previous leader in that category--the 83-possession blowout loss to North Carolina in 2008--by a full 7 possessions. This team can run.
Of course, that also means the offense wasn't actually all that efficient, scoring a modest 1.07 points per possession. The team shot the ball well from the field, making 54.3% of its 2-point attempts and 46.2% of its 3-point attempts. But MSU only shot 66.7% from the line (albeit on a whopping 42 attempts from the line), pulled down only 25.0% of available offensive rebounds, and turned the ball over on 22.2% of its possessions. All sorts of offensive ability was on display by the Spartans tonight, but 96 points in the context of that many possessions actually means you've still got plenty to work on. [Note: StatSheet done gone broke after its recent site upgrades, so I'm calculating the numbers manually. You'll have to wait a bit longer for the first four-factors graph of the season.] [EDIT: Four factors graph after the jump! --LVS.]
Defensively, it sure seemed like the MSU defenders allowed too many open shots for the Eagles. But, you know, it's hard to complain about giving up 0.73 points per possession. Brandon Bowdry was a man possessed, scoring 32 points on 5-8 three-point shooting and pulling down 15 rebounds. He exposed Delvon Roe, Draymond Green, and the other bigs that tried to guard him on the outside. This is where Raymar Morgan's departure shows up. Still, I don't think we're going to see too many opposing forwards capable of repeating that kind of performance. Setting aside Bowdry's numbers, the other Eagle players scored just 34 points on 48 field goal attempts.
Eastern's 13 offensive rebounds are disconcerting at first glance, but that number was a function of the number of missed shots by the Eagles: 52, just counting the ones from the field. EMU's offensive rebounding percentage was just 23.6%. So far, so good on MSU dominating the defensive glass.
Apparently, MSU played a few possessions of zone defense, but I have to confess I missed it.
Player bullets after the jump:
- Can someone remind we what Kalin Lucas looked like at 100%? Cuz that looked pretty darn good to me. As agile as ever with the ball in the open court and fearless driving the lane. 18 points on 10 FGA, 6 assists, 2 turnovers. Great start.
- Durrell Summers was very efficient shooting the ball: 17 points on 13 FGA. Not so much with the ball-handling: zero assists, 5 turnovers. Still, he showed signs of the breakout senior season we're all hoping for tonight.
- Draymond Green can do a lot with just 6 FGA: 12 points, 8 rebounds, 7 assists, 1 turnover, 3 blocks, 1 steal. He can do it all, including running the fast break. That's now new, but it's still stunning in its beauty. Green played about half his minutes at the 3 spot tonight. He looked more than comfortable on offense. The adjustment on defense will take a little longer. He got caught flat footed a few times against guys on the perimeter.
- Keith Appling turned it over 5 times, but I thought that was more a function of jitters than anything. He looked solid to me running the point with Lucious and Kebler out, considering he's spent almost no time there in the exhibition games. Pulled it out and kept his dribble going on several occasions when things weren't opening up. A very efficient 14 points on 4 FGA (7-7 from the line). Plus: more jumping. The 6'1" Appling blocked not 1 but 2 shots.
- Austin Thornton posted the first double-digit scoring game of his career. He also chipped in 5 rebounds, 2 assists, and 2 steals. Only turned it over once in 22 minutes on the court. Making the most of his opportunity.
- Delvon Roe wasn't terribly impressive trying to score in the post; he converted just 1 of 4 FGA. But he had 8 rebounds and 2 blocks. He'll be fine.
- Garrick Sherman was unusually assertive, scoring 8 points and pulling down 8 rebounds (led the team with 3 offensive boards). He was the fifth guy in the starting lineup and has taken the (very) early lead on Derrick Nix in the derby to be the top traditional post guy in the rotation.
- Nix didn't have a great game, missing both his shots from the field and making only 2 of 6 free throws. Not the best kind of game for a 270-pound player to showcase his skills in either, though.
- Adreian Payne got to double digits in garbage time. He also picked up 4 fouls along the way. He's got some adjusting to do to the college game on defense. On offense, though, his ability to drive to the basket from the 3-point line as a 6'10" player reminded me of, well, no one in modern MSU basketball history. He's simply a unique talent. (Also: 0-for-3 from the line. Note to basketball gods: Can we please not have to endure a third consecutive year of watching a talented freshman big man miss most of his free throw attempts?)
- Hey, new walk-ons! Matt Heneveld, Nick Giard, and Dan Chapman joined Anthony Ianni on the court in the last couple minutes of the game. Let's get the roster updated, MSU SID!
Season openers generally aren't going to be works of tremendous beauty, so they might as well be entertaining. And this one was (other than the constant stream of guys going to the free throw line, I guess). This team promises to be as entertaining as any Tom Izzo has coached--and that's saying something. Becoming a truly efficient operation will take a little longer.
Up Next: The South Carolina Gamecocks come to town to help MSU close out ESPN's 24-hour hoops marathon next Tuesday. 10:00 tip-off, so get some extra sleep this weekend.
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The Austin Thornton play that sticks out to me in terms of his one turnover is when her had a block/steal (I admit I watched the game at the bar and have a few beers in me) and then stepped on the line while trying to get the ball to a teammate. Is this the turnover or was it on another play. If it was I think that it is unusally harsh to credit him with a turnover on that play.
Also I remember BTN showing that Nix was 2-4 from the free throw stripe right before he missed 2 free throws which would make him 2-6. Again, I could be wrong about this but I am pretty sure that if I am wrong then the BTN graphic was too. Hope not.
Anyway, a 30 point win against an overmatched team is good enough for me at a time of the year when we still have the Rose Bowl as the top priority on our minds. Also the freshmen looked good, even if they did have a few “freshman moments” as all rookies will, for their first game on TV in front of a real Izzone crowd.
Overall, no complaintgs.
GO GREEN
GO PENN STATE
GO WHITE
A few typo's
sorry i typed “her” when i meant to type “he” in regards to Austin Thornton and if anyone is confussed “unusally” should be “unusually” and “complaintgs” was meant to be “complaignts”
OOOOOOPS
by zeke4heisman on Nov 13, 2010 2:03 AM CST up reply actions
The Nix thing was a typo on my part
Fixed.
Fight for The Only Colors: Green and White!
by KJ@theonlycolors on Nov 13, 2010 8:08 AM CST up reply actions
Also of note
Gauna is redshirting:
“After the game, freshman forward Alex Gauna (Eaton Rapids) said he decided Thursday to redshirt after meeting with Izzo. Gauna said the depth in the frontcourt ahead of him was the main factor.
“We’re so loaded with bigs,” Gauna said, “it just made more sense to me to make the decision to redshirt.”"
http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/article/20101113/GW0201/11130325/1023/GW
The Suton effect
Watching his huge redshirt senior year has to have made the idea of taking a year off more palatable to MSU fans like Gauna. Both from a development/NBA perspective and a winning/championship-potential, it’s attractive if your freshman year minutes are questionable.
I want to go on record again
I said it before last night’s game so it bares repeating after seeing the performance on the court: Sherman is our most underrated player. Long-term, he’s going to be real good.
Nix may be our most overrated. At some point, those nifty moves and fancy footwork has to translate to shots falling through the net. Still a struggle. Honestly, I’m fine with giving Sherman and Payne some of his minutes unless MSU is in a situation where they really need his size to hold position against someone.
Nix...
….has a bit of tendency toward cute bank shots when he needs to just go through someone on the way to dunking it. Now that he’s in better shape, I think he’s got more ability to do so, though.
by witless chum on Nov 13, 2010 8:45 AM CST up reply actions
agreed
I think Sherman just needs more experience (ie playing time) to fully develop. He has good hands and feet, rebounds well and generally finishes near the basket. If Green plays significant minutes at the 4, then Nix is likely to play minimally.
agree
Once or twice last night, he did seem to have a little bit of extra zip, but otherwise, the effects of the weight loss strike as much exaggerated. He still hardly ever finishes over the rim, and does seem to miss 2,3 bunnies every game. I used to think he had much the greater upside, compared to Sherman; now I think Sherman will end up the more valuable player for the program.
I wonder what it's like...
if you learn to play the game in one body over the course of many years and then suddenly change bodies. Nix will have to discover a different skill set.
In the meantime, Sherman does look good. He has a good knack for finding an open lane without the ball, especially on the pick and roll, and the other guys need to figure out how to get him the ball cleanly. He can finish.
by king biscuit on Nov 13, 2010 9:35 AM CST up reply actions
Agree in part
Sherman was frequently overpowered by players like Dexter Pittman last year, which made it hard for him to stay on the court. His offensive skills are ahead of Nix’s but he’s frankly a bad passer in the post and has a tendency to lose the ball. Where Nix misses shots Sherman turns it over. He’ll need to work on that
by Con-T on Nov 13, 2010 10:07 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Track Meet
These guys can sure get up and down the court. With their speed and depth, they are going to wear down many teams. I expect that they will be able to separate themselves from teams in the last ten minutes of close games by virtue of that depth and speed.
For a first game, I thought it was solid effort, highlighting lots of strengths and exposing a few areas that will need to be addressed. Considering the array of injuries and the limited time Appling and Payne have had with their returning teammates, this looks like a team with a very high ceiling.
One caveat to the large possession number
Is that was partially fueled by some whistle happy officials.
Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude
Not too worried about
the low OR%. We have a strong track record there and guys on the roster with excellent histories. The tempo may have had something to do with it – we were hoisting up shots early in possessions, oftentimes before we had a guy in position to get the rebound. On the plus side, a lot of those shots went in: I’ll take a 57.6% effective field goal percentage any day. We definitely cleaned up like usual on the defensive boards.
Turnovers are still an issue. I’m optimistic that Appling will get better, but in Summers case I think we have what we have – I guy who is prone to turnovers, but who on good nights makes up for it will efficient shooting. The 75% from 3 point land from him was great to see – hopefully it’s a sign that tournament Summers will show up in the regular season this year.
We had a pretty impressive steal percentage (10%) and block percentage, which is atypical of the Izzo era. It’s hard to find any complaints on the defensive side of the ball when you hold an opponent to a 73.3 offensive efficiency.
We had a high free throw rate but really have to start knocking them down, especially the bigs.
I remember reading an article by either Jon Gasaway or Ken Pomeroy (or maybe it was one of the other early tempo-free stats gurus) that looked at offensive usage rates to predict whether a role player would develop into a go-to guy. I can’t find the article now but the basic conclusion was that agressive play in limited minutes as a freshman-sophmore predicted evolution into a high minute-high usage guy. Guys who had lower usage rates tended to stay role players.
I’m beginning to fear that Roe will be in the latter category. He is definitely a warrior and gives us plenty on D and rebounding, but I think his injury situation may have set him back too far in terms of offensive development, and that he will ever be a real offensive threat in the post. Hopefully if he can stay healthy he’ll develop more of an offensive game, but right now he just does not look polished on that side of the ball. At least he appears to be our best post free throw shooter at this point, and will still have a fine career even if he never develops into a go-to post presence on offense.
Sherman had a great game. He an Nix played almost the exact same number of minutes and he shot better from the field, shot better from the FT line, had 2 steals, 1 block and 8 rebounds. 2 turnovers were the only downside. I wouldn’t pick between the two of them based on one game but Sherman certainly pulled even and then some in this game. All and all a pretty good start to the season.

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