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Michigan State 28, Penn State 22: Congratulations - I'm Sorry

As I said Saturday, almost all streaks will eventually be broken.  Two of Michigan State Football's most notorious ones - 20 years without a Big Ten title, and 45 years without a win in Happy Valley came to an end yesterday as the Spartans played three very good quarters and one that was last-decade vintage MSU to win 28-22. State claims a share of the Big Ten Title along with Ohio State and Wisconsin, and although I'm elated to purchase all the Big Ten title merchandise I can, I can't help but feel a tinge of regret for how Michigan State will most likely be screwed out of a BCS berth.

Star-divide

The game could not have had a better start for MSU.  A 9-play, 72-yard drive consisted of two passes and seven runs by Edwin Baker for 40 yards including the 9-yard TD scamper.  Matt McGloin and Evan Royster retaliated by driving right back down the field, but stalled at the MSU 17 when Johnny Adams had his first of two near-interceptions on the day.  A Penn State field goal later, it was 7-3.   For the rest of the first half the teams alternated drives with some offense before punting (there was only one three-and-out in the first 30 minutes), with the one exception being the eight-play, 80-yard MSU touchdown drive highlighted by a Keshawn Martin reverse for 35 yards and an 8 yard TD pass to B.J. Cunningham where he had all of western Pennsylvania to himself.  

The score coming out of halftime was 14-3.  For the third quarter the defense was much improved as the linebackers were now sealing off the holes that Evan Royster hit in the first half.  PSU combined for 10 plays and 32 yards on their first three drives out of the half, while MSU went up 21-3 thanks to a series that saw Kirk Cousins complete 4-5 passes.  All aspects of the game were trending towards an easy victory...but that's when everything went a bit sideways.

When pressured, McGloin tended to throw the ball deep, but these passes were incompletions.  With a little bit of protection however, he focused on the intermediate throws and his accuracy showed on Penn State's  first touchdown; the last three passes went for at least 14 yards.  MSU returned with a drive highlighted by two plays: a Keshawn Martin pass across the field to Keith Nichol for a first down, and a TD pass by Nichol to Charlie Gantt where my reaction could be summed up as NOOOOOOOOOYEESSSSSSSSS!!!!  This concluded the MSU scoring for the game, and most of the competent play as well.

McGloin drove Penn State down the field for another touchdown, and MSU had the first of its two turnovers, a fumble by Edwin Baker whilst trying to run out the clock.  The silver lining here was that the Spartans had two first downs on this drive and were able to grind down the clock and make Penn State use all their timeouts.  The Nittany Lions once again moved the ball down the field to a first and goal, which is when Michigan State's checkered past came back with a vengeance.

Facing pressure, McGloin forced a ball into the end zone.  The ball deflected off a defender into the hands of Trenton Robinson.  Game, set, Big Ten title right? NOPE.  Robinson runs out of the end zone and into the hands of Derek Moye, who manages to strip the ball.  The kicker out of all this was that Penn State actually gained yards on this turn of events, going from the six to the three.  I was so angry I couldn't swear; I could only put my hands on top my hands and gape.  Predictably, the next play was a touchdown pass to Moye.  Following the botched extra point snap Penn State was within a touchdown and I was maintaining my distance from all pointy objects.

If these were the Same Old Spartans, Penn State recovers the kick, and McGloin throws a touchdown pass to Moye with no time left for the touchdown and a good extra point.  Michigan State loses, and I sober up sometime around Valentine's Day. I waited for the kick and thankfully there was no doubt - Brian Linthicum fell on the ball.  Two kneeldowns later Michigan State had claimed a share of the 2010 Big Ten title.

About 40 hours later, the first emotion I'm feeling is elation.  After two decades of a couple close calls and a lot of very long ones, Michigan State won a Big Ten title by looking equal parts dominant (Michigan and Illinois games), capable (Minnesota, Wisconsin), and using 4th quarter/overtime heroics to overcome underwhelming performances (Notre Dame, Northwestern, Purdue).  They haven't looked as good as the Badgers and Buckeyes in the past few weeks, but at the risk of sounding utterly trite, wins are the only statistic that matters and MSU has just as many of them as any Big Ten team this year.

On the other hand, it's a bit frustrating to realize that all those wins will mean a trip to Orlando for the Capital One Bowl. Wisconsin will get the Rose Bowl spot with the highest BCS ranking, and Ohio State will most likely get the at-large.  It's unfair, and I'd be lying if I said it didn't detract from my enjoyment of the win. Playoff systems can be proposed until the cows come home, but unless it's a 16-team version MSU would most likely still be left out.  You can hope that the BCS executives will choose the Spartans over the Buckeyes, but that would require a bucking of convention - one thing I have zero faith in.

While the bowl will still rankle for some time, the next time fans enter Spartan Stadium for a football game, the year 2010 will be alongside the years 1990, 1987, 1978, 1966, 1965, and 1953.  Although this football season may not have ended as perfectly as hoped, the disappointment of a less-than-storybook ending will fade, and the memories of a team who overachieved and shed the "same old Spartans" label will last on.

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Big Ten Champions

is the main prize here and luckily Dantonio knows it and is emphasizing this to his players. We will likely be left out of a BCS bowl and yea, that is unfair, but at least people are talking about it and that means that our name is being mentioned out in the media a lot. This, and the top ten ranking (higher if we win our bowl game?) will be good thing for recruiting. If we win our bowl game, we also start next year with a good pre-season ranking and can keep the momentum going program wise.

by mmwhitman on Nov 29, 2010 6:29 AM CST reply actions  

Usually I would say that it was because we didn't start the season ranked...

but plain and simple: If we don’t get pantsed by Iowa; we are going to the Rose Bowl.

We’re the only one loss team with a blowout loss to a (now) unranked team on our schedule. (Stanford’s drubbing was by Oregon).

My problem isn’t that we’ll lose out to UW and OSU. I think OSU would probably beat us 6 out of ten times. And if we played UW again now…well let’s not go there. My problem is that OK/Neb, VT /FSU, Ar-Kansas (who should not have jumped us) and CONNECTICUT will go instead of us. I’d even suggest TCU, but they finished undefeated and we have to appease the little conferences. There are 10 bowl slots…they should go to the top ten teams by BCS calculation.

by MSULaxer27 on Nov 29, 2010 7:32 AM CST reply actions  

+1 on everything

"We were a little fat and sassy" -Tom Izzo

by itsalwaysunnyinEL on Nov 29, 2010 11:11 AM CST up reply actions  

Mostly agree

…but I’m not so swayed by Wisconsin’s pretty scores against the likes of Indiana and a Persa-less NU team. They’re a good team, but they aren’t a juggernaut. We owned them once, and I’d like our chances in a title rematch.

by Stuka on Nov 29, 2010 4:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Hold on a second...

As a big fan of both MSU and Stanford, I just wanted to point out that Stanford’s “drubbing” by Oregon wasn’t as much of a blowout as the final score made it appear. Stanford led 21-3 at one point and trailed only 38-31 as the fourth quarter opened. Then things kinda fell apart. :-)

But if you watched the Stanford-Oregon game, you probably would have gotten the impression that, if the game could somehow be replayed 100 times, on the same day with the same conditions, Stanford would win maybe 40 of them. They had some tough breaks and some inopportune turnovers, but they weren’t really blown out. (The Iowa-MSU game, on the other hand, left no room for doubt.)

I was hoping to see MSU and Stanford in the Rose Bowl, so I’m bummed, but now at least I won’t have to choose one to root against. And the Capital One Bowl on New Year’s Day against Alabama or LSU still seems pretty impressive to me, despite the lame name.

by Eric H. on Nov 29, 2010 7:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Another reason for December/January Madness

It seems to work for hoops.

I was hoping for 9 – 3 this year, as most probably were. Given the BCS format, the Iowa game was our downfall.

by MSU1978 on Nov 29, 2010 7:43 AM CST reply actions  

Did anyone notice Mike Patrick...

…blowing McGloin? It was 28-10, he had 0 TDs and two-shoulda-picks, and they were inhaling him. It was the most obnoxious thing. Um, how about MSU being on the virge of winning the Big 10? Or Edwin Baker rushing for 1300 on the year? But no, a walk-on loser on a crappy team. It ruined the game for me.

by fhsparty26 on Nov 29, 2010 8:07 AM CST reply actions  

I noticed that too

He kept talking about how he must have a baseball background, how he has tremendous arm strength, etc… Seemingly endless. It was pretty comical actually

"It's a trap!"

by AdmiralAkbar on Nov 29, 2010 9:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Umm...

First, let me say truly, honestly; Congratulations on the win, and the B10 title, you guys earned it.

Secondly, I refute your statement about my team having a “walk-on loser” who frankly, STILL shredded your defense for 300+ yards throwing and should have had more with all the dropped passes. Watch-out in any bowl-game you go to and pray they don’t see those gaping holes in your secondary that a “walk-on loser” QB like McGloin found, and realize that they will have a well-recruited QB behind them as well.

Give credit where it’s due. Yes, the announcers were annoying, but McGloin isn’t a bad QB.

Again, congrats on the title. Until 2014 then…

BALLER {Baw-ler} n. - 1.) A thug or OG that has hit big time. 2.) An inner city ball player that has made it pro. 3.) MATT MCGLOIN.

by PSUTDX on Nov 29, 2010 11:55 AM CST up reply actions  

I'll also agree that Patrick's lengthy fawning over him at that point in the game was bizarre

But that takes nothing away from McGloin. Very impressive QB, particularly in light of his walk-on background.

Fight for The Only Colors: Green and White!

by KJ@theonlycolors on Nov 29, 2010 1:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Calm down

McGloin scared me all week. He’s been playing extremely well and looks like a first-stringer out there. But the commentator’s gushing seemed weird and awkward, and was certainly annoying depending on which colors you’re wearing.

Also, don’t get lathered up over a first-time commentor/troll on this board.

Tonight's going to be a good night.

by Spartalytical on Nov 29, 2010 1:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Dropped Passes...by the Defense

Ok, a total trashing of McGloin is not warranted, but if we’re going to talk about dropped passes, I can think of at least two that were dropped by the MSU defense that would have had not only dinged up McGloins stat line, but also turned this game into more of a blow-out.

Q1 – Adams drops an easy INT, PSU scores it’s first 3. Changing the halftime score to 14-0, assuming MSU doesn’t score more.
Q – I have to admit that I don’t remember exactly when the other drop happened, but I’m pretty sure it was in the end zone, so I’m guessing it would have had an impact.

Add to that one really stupic move by Trenton Robinson and I think McGloin was lucky that he looked so good in a loss. Ask Shoeless about running up meaningless stats in a loss.

by Chris1992 on Nov 29, 2010 3:50 PM CST up reply actions  

There were like 5 passes at least

that could have/should have been picked off.

by MooTheKow on Nov 29, 2010 4:56 PM CST up reply actions  

HA!

And I just realized, Shoelaces got the Offensive POY award from the coaches – and was only honorable mention for their All-Conference team!!

by MSUDersh on Nov 29, 2010 9:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Life isn't fair.

We had the perfect hollywood script. A team picked to finish 7th and even Adam Rittenberg has us behind NW before the season started. SI .com had us behind MIchigan in the preseason rankings and here we are, A B10 Championship, a heart attack to the head coach, beat Wisconsin without our head coach, and then BCS screws us. The same thing happened to Wisc in 2006 and now to us. If this was Michigan or ND they would have leapfrogged everyone. ND only needs 10 wins to have an automatic BCS berth. Talk about jerks in south bend.
Ultimately ppl are gonna remember that cold afternoon in Happy Valley when the team walked out with a B10 championship and a great season. It laid the foundation for future Spartan programs and championships. Recruits are already preferring MSU over UM in Detroit. Coach D has made inroads in Ohio and PA as well.
I think we can beat anyone with our mindset. Doesn’t matter if it is wisc or OSU. We won the Big ten fair and square and nobody can take that away.GO GREEN!

by spartynation on Nov 29, 2010 8:15 AM CST reply actions  

Wisconsin got it bad

but I’m going to argue our shafting is worse. Wisconsin was passed over by an undefeated Ohio State team and an 11-1 Michigan squad that held the head to head over them.

Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude

by Seer on Nov 29, 2010 9:58 AM CST up reply actions  

A triple of things

I look at a trip to the Capital One Bowl as a Hate Opportunity, and not directed at Saban. If the staff can convince the players that they were hosed and that tOSU received the BCS bid unfairly, it could pump them up for the game at Columbus next year.

As for recruiting, it seems that RR and UM have pretty much walked away from recruiting Ohio and Pa in favor of multiple SEC rejects from Florida—seriously, if D. Robinson were the greatest spread option QB in the Southeast, don’t you think Urban Meyer would have snatched him up, redshirted him last year, then dropped him on an unsuspecting SEC this fall? (Even if he thought he was going to have Cam Newton to follow Tebow.) I think they’re still trying in the Metro Detroit area, but as the old expression goes, “Familiarity breeds contempt.”

The commenters at the UM sites are convinced that Jim Harbaugh will come to A-squared from Palo Alto and lead them back to their rightful place behind tOSU in the Big Ten, even going so far as forgiving him for seconding Jim Carty’s series on academic fraud at UM under the Bill Martin regime. On the other hand, why would anyone leave Palo Alto for Ann Arbor if he didn’t have to? The weather’s better, Pebble Beach and Cypress Point are just down the road, and all those California high schools are putting out tons of players, many of whom are smart enough to get into Stanford and talented enough to play for USC. Besides, USC and UCLA are in a down period and the Stanford folks are always happy to keep a coach who can kick the crap out of USC and UCLA.

by Uncle Omar on Nov 29, 2010 12:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Harbaugh and Stanford

I have a love/hate relationship with Harbaugh. I hate him because he played for Michigan and because he’s kind of an a-hole, but I love him because I’m a Stanford alum and he has done a miraculous job with our program. It is unthinkable that Stanford could ever be 11-1 (maybe a few plays away from 12-0).

I don’t know if everyone appreciates how hard it is to win at Stanford. The admission standards have to be the strictest of any FCS football school (maybe they’re not as hard as for non-athletes, but even the football players are pretty good students), there’s a small and quiet fan base, and competition for West Coast recruits is fierce with USC, UCLA, Oregon, Washington, Cal and the Arizona schools all trying to land the best athletes — with Stanford handicapped by the fact that their recruits need to be able to read and do simple algebra.

Anyway, here are reasons why Harbaugh might leave:

• More money. Stanford will never pay a football coach as much as a Michigan or USC or Alabama or Texas. Never.

• More national recognition. Stanford is not a “traditional” power and never can be. We could be better than Notre Dame for the next 20 years and we still won’t get an exclusive NBC contract.

• More freedom(?). Stanford’s admission standards are strict, we don’t tolerate shady recruiting, and we somewhat snootily frown on bad sportsmanship, like trash talking and celebration dances and running up the score. That can be stifling for a coach who’s kind of a jackass.

• Better fan base. Stanford only graduates approximately 1,500 seniors each year, leading to a very small and slowly growing alumni base. There’s a small “local” fan base of non-alums, but Stanford competes with Cal and the 49ers and dozens of other entertainment/recreation options in the Northern California autumn. Even this year’s amazing team had trouble drawing 40,000 fans to games, despite a fantastic new stadium and the great product on the field.

I really doubt that Harbaugh will stay at Stanford forever, and in a sense we don’t deserve him. But I’m not sure Ann Arbor is the logical destination for him. He could basically go anywhere in college or the NFL where there is a job opening. (Or many places where there ISN’T a job opening.) And taking over RichRod’s mess might not be the most attractive opportunity.

by Eric H. on Nov 29, 2010 8:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Sweet!

I’m choosing to see the positive in all of this, from the pleasure of 11 Saturdays spent watching the Spartans win, to a 2010 that included both basketball and football as co-Big Ten Champions, to the excitement about the possibilities of next season.

I can’t spell schedenfrauda, but I am taking a little pleasure from what this will continue to do to the other program in this state. Combined with another crushing loss to OSU I just have to believe that we’ve got almost everything headed in the right direction and they have almost everything headed in the wrong direction.

Although I’ve said before on this site that I was concerned that we’d win our way into a bowl game against a superior opponent and get crushed on national television, I think the projected match-up is with South Carolina is one we can win. Spurrior is good, and he’ll have time to scheme, but we’ll do the same, and get everyone healthy.

FHSparty26 – There are times when I really hate the national broadcast and this game was one of them. If it wasn’t McGloin it was the constant Jo Pa talk.

SpartyNation – I agree that the rating system is flawed, and believe that the only reason basketballs is cricized less is that no one really believes that teams outside of the 64 have a shot to win it all. A 16 team football tournament could work.

December 11 – Sweet 16
December 18 – Elite 8
December 25 – Final Four
December 1 – National Championship

The challenge with this format will be that fans won’d have the time (or money) to coordinate trips to all those games, so unless you make the first few rounds and match-ups regional somehow, you’re watching empty stadiums on tv.

by Chris1992 on Nov 29, 2010 8:26 AM CST reply actions  

Give the higher seed a home game

with a certain # of tickets reserved for the away team

by steinfi2 on Nov 29, 2010 11:26 AM CST up reply actions  

Big Ten Champs

It definitely feels good to say that when we’re talking about the football team. It is a bit bittersweet though since we likely won’t play in a BCS game. However, we should face a quality SEC team (Bama?) in the Capitol One bowl. No matter what we can always say we were Big Ten Champs in 2010.

I think we have a real argument for saying we deserve a BCS bid over OSU. Take away the names on the jerseys and the pre-season rankings and compare what both teams did this year. We definitely had a worse loss then OSU, but we also gave a top 5 Wisconsin team their only loss and we’ve beaten 7 bowl eligible teams to OSU’s 5. OSU hasn’t beaten a team that is currently ranked in the top 25.

by Stones1981 on Nov 29, 2010 8:31 AM CST reply actions  

Agreed...

Also – here is the thing about BCS bowl games:
Only one of them counts for anything. The rest of them have no more meaning than any other bowl game at the end of the day.

by MooTheKow on Nov 29, 2010 10:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Since...

…I can only rec this once, I’ll add an agree, a sticker and thumbs up.

Big 10 champs! BCS meh. The idea that it’s a national championship is such a total fraud, I don’t feel any emotion over MSU being included or not included in the lower rounds of the fraud. I can’t imagine saying “Yay, BCS game!” or “Boo, no BCS game!” I care whether we win our bowl game, so whatever is good for that.

Nobody puts up a banner for being in a BCS bowl. That’s how you can tell if it really means something or not in sports.

by witless chum on Nov 29, 2010 10:34 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm beginning to consider a BCS appearance equivalent to a Final Four appearance.

It seems to me, a non-basketball-guy, that while basketball national championships are super awesome, the true measure of a program’s success is the number of Final Four appearances.

So why wouldn’t the same be true of BCS bowl appearances?

by CPT Hoolie on Nov 29, 2010 12:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Absolutely Not.

A BCS appearance is the equivalent of a 1 or 2 seed in the NCAA Tournament.

 - Based at least in part on pre-season hype and the ‘history’ of your program.
 - Not necessarily an indicator of future success.

by Chris1992 on Nov 29, 2010 3:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Wouldn't...

…a top 5 finish in the final polls be the closest thing?

by witless chum on Nov 29, 2010 4:00 PM CST up reply actions  

No I agree with Chris

Placement in a BCS bowl is (supposed to) be an honor earned after a great regular season, while a FInal Four is an accomplishment of a great postseason.

I think that while BCS is equivilant to a top 2 seeding in the Big Dance, there isn’t really a football equivilant to the Final Four, because of the single game nature of football postseason, and fact that the team in the BCS is (is apparantly suposed to) be a team that had a top 10 regular season against a team of the same quality.

Well, at least that’s what the Big 6 commisioners keep telling me.

by MSUDersh on Nov 29, 2010 10:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Thing is adding Nebraska...

conference championship probably equals NC game appearance.

by MSULaxer27 on Nov 30, 2010 12:30 AM CST up reply actions  

Moving In the Right Direction

I agree that adding Nebraska and then the Big Ten Championship game is a step in the right direction and wonder if that Big Ten/Pac Ten thing that the old guys love about the Rose Bowl doesn’t turn into the next round of the playoffs as our conference champ meets theirs in mid december while the SEC and Big 12 Champs play. I guess the ACC and Big East can play too, but really who cares?

I continue to dream, but the conference championships are a nice lead in to a 4 or 8 or even 10 (with bye’s for the winners of these games) team tournament.

by Chris1992 on Nov 30, 2010 8:02 AM CST up reply actions  

what this will do

is severely lengthen some conference championship droughts. The bottom half of the Big Ten that rotates who every 10-20 years is competitive is going to have to win a Championship game presumably against a national powerhouse. No more of the 2-3 way ties to allow some team to pick up a Big Ten championship. It also means OSU’s streak of consecutive championships is going to be a lot harder to maintain.

by steinfi2 on Nov 30, 2010 11:18 AM CST up reply actions  

Congrats to the Big Ten Champions

I’m finding it a little difficult to get worked up about the whole BCS situation with regard to being behind OSU and Wisconsin. It rankles a little that we’ll be behind other teams, particularly VT and UConn/Pitt who are clearly less deserving. VT lost to a division 1-AA team THIS YEAR for crying out loud, and the Big East champ will have 4 losses.

I realize that kids are in the moment, but it’s a little frustrating that we couldn’t keep the game situation in the front of our minds at the end of the game. Baker (who otherwise had a great game) should have gone down so we could punt it away and make them go a longer distance to score and burn more clock. Robinson’s error was even more egregious – he absolutely should have taken a knee in the end zone to end the game.

But enough bellyaching. This team was fun to watch, played well all year, and is deserving of all the praise coming their way. They fully earned a share of the title.

by TheCrestedHelm on Nov 29, 2010 9:10 AM CST reply actions  

Robinson

I sure hope Trenton bought Linthicum a steak dinner (at least) for recovering that onside and saving him from being run out of East Lansing by an angry mob.

"You can look at the dinosaur that weighs you down or you can look at the big pot of gold (and) try to say, 'You know what? I'm going to try to live up to expectations.' " -Tom Izzo, Iron Mountain Philosopher

by Ducking Delvon on Nov 29, 2010 11:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Did anyone else notice...

Robinson on the bench immediately afterward looking devastated about his error, and his teammates trying to console him?

by CPT Hoolie on Nov 29, 2010 12:41 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah I saw that

really stupid play, but you can bet its one he will never make again. There is one guy at least who will be super motivated for whatever bowl game we get.

by steinfi2 on Nov 29, 2010 12:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm holding out hope

that Hollis can sell MSU as an at large over Ohio State. We’re the more interesting story, we had the harder schedule, we have a much better win than their best win (Wisconsin vs Iowa or Miami for them) and I think the Spartan fan base is hungrier for a BCS game than theirs is.

Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude

by Seer on Nov 29, 2010 10:00 AM CST reply actions  

Unless the argument involves cash money...

OSU will put butts in the seats and in front of the TVs, and that’s just how it is. OSU will be the first at-large team off the board and headed to New Orleans.

by rcpratt on Nov 29, 2010 10:21 AM CST up reply actions  

I think that argument is overstated.

Per Rittenberg’s post on our case for a BCS bid, we actually had the highest average ratings of all Big Ten teams for non-BTN games (the ones that are nationally available). And any bowl exec who thinks Spartan fans wouldn’t be absolutely jacked for a trip to New Orleans (or Pasadena, though that’s not their choice) is, to put it nicely, off his or her rocker.

We may not have the name or the history of recent success, but it’s lazy at best to conclude that MSU wouldn’t be just as big a draw based on that alone.

by SpartanDan on Nov 29, 2010 7:29 PM CST up reply actions  

All Big Ten Predictions

QB: Denard Robinson – UM
RB: Edwin Baker – MSU, Mikel Leshoure – Illini
WR: Tandon Doss – IU, Dane Sanzenbacher – OSU
TE: Lance Kendricks – Wisc
T: Gabe Carimi – Wisc, Ricky Wagner – Wisc
G: Justin Boren – OSU, John Moffitt – Wisc
C: Mike Brewster – OSU
DE: JJ Watt – Wisc, Ryan Kerrigan – Purdue
DT: Jerel Worthy – MSU, Cam Heyward – OSU
OLB: Martez Wilson – Illini, Brian Rolle – OSU
MLB: Greg Jones – MSU
CB: Ricardo Allen – Purdue, Chimdi Chekwa – OSU
S: Marcus Hyde – MSU, Brett Greenwood – Iowa
K: Devin Barclay – OSU
P: Aaron Bates – MSU
Specialist: Keyshawn Martin – MSU

by That Guy Green on Nov 29, 2010 10:16 AM CST reply actions  

Wisconsin RB

I like the list, but I really can’t see Baker getting a first-team award over one of the Wisconsin RBs.

by BCSpartan on Nov 29, 2010 11:08 AM CST up reply actions  

I thought that as well

Then come to find Boom Herron was more competition for Rock. But he did make one of the first teams. I did not realize they did not have to stick to position at D Line. Clayborn, Watt, Kerrigan and Heyward were all first team and all D Ends. Way more love for Conroy than I figured but I’ll take it.

by That Guy Green on Nov 29, 2010 10:43 PM CST up reply actions  

One concern I have

Is it me or have I not heard of a top end football recruit committing to us since the season started? If you had told me we would be sitting here 11-1 and not have a certain couple guys in our recruiting class right now I wouldn’t have believed you.

by stevedarsh on Nov 29, 2010 1:23 PM CST reply actions  

ROBINSON

Yes, he should have taken a knee. When you watch the replay the first thing he sees is Rucker pointing up field and screaming “GO” and no State players trying to stop him. Most players would have done what Robinson did under those circumstances.

by DALBE on Nov 29, 2010 1:45 PM CST reply actions  

I don't think that's true

I think, more often that not, an experienced Big Ten DB knows to take a knee there.

Some of the blame definitely goes to Rucker. If you’re a guy who doesn’t have the ball, you should be able to process the situation more calmly and intelligently.

It seems to me MSU DBs have a history of trying to run INTs out of the endzone, although I may be extrapolating from a couple instances that stick in my head.

Very disappointing decision making IMO. Thankfully, it didn’t end up costing the team the game and the championship.

Fight for The Only Colors: Green and White!

by KJ@theonlycolors on Nov 29, 2010 3:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Renaldo Hill...

…vs. OSU in 1998, running it out to the one yard line. I was sure we were going to get safetied there.

by witless chum on Nov 29, 2010 4:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Johnny Adams on that play

Is running off the field with hands in the air, I assume he was assuming Robinson was going down since he wasn’t blocking for him. I thought Eric Gordon might take his skate off and try and stab Robinson after that play. He’d be the only guy ever to do that.

by That Guy Green on Nov 29, 2010 10:40 PM CST up reply actions  

No excuse

You have to know score, time, and field position. Running out of a crowded end zone with little chance of turning the corner is a foolish mistake at the best of times – even if he doesn’t fumble, that’s 15 yards in field position lost because he got greedy and went for something that was never even close to there. At the end of the game, with a lead and an absolute guarantee of a win as long as you don’t fumble, you GET DOWN. Period. Anyone who’s played a single down of football knows (or should know) that.

Ten out of ten for making the pick in the first place, but minus several million for good thinking.

by SpartanDan on Nov 29, 2010 7:34 PM CST up reply actions  

+1

My thoughts exactly.

by BCSpartan on Nov 29, 2010 9:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe he was just as excited as Jim Valvano was in 1983 and

he was just running looking for somebody to hug and forgot he had the ball?

by MSULaxer27 on Nov 30, 2010 12:26 AM CST up reply actions  

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