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Star players? Who needs star players? MSU-Wisconsin Preview

Your MICHIGAN STATE SPARTANS vs. the WISCONSIN BADGERS
THE KOHL CENTER, MADISON, WISCONSIN
9:00 P.M. (ET), TUESDAY
TV: ESPN (
Musberger/Lavin/Andrews)
ONLINE RADIO FEED: WJR
ENEMY BLOGS: Bucky's 5th Quarter, Hoops Marinara, Badgercentric

So tell me if this is about right:


Take a team that went 10-8 in Big Ten play in 2009, subtract the team's leading scorer and leading rebounder (two different guys), add two freshman role players playing a combined 21.1 minutes per game, and you get . . . a team that starts the season 13-3 overall and 3-1 in conference play.

Now go ahead and knock the team's new star out with an injury--a guy who had emerged as the team's second leading scorer, top rebounder, and a legitimate contender for the conference player of the year.  Now, of course, you have . . . a team that still managed to win 3 of 5 games to find itself in a second-place tie in the Big Ten standings.

My point?  The Wisconsin basketball team, as coached by Bo Ryan, defies rational analysis.  But we'll give it a shot anyways.

Star-divide

Since losing Jon Leuer to a left-wrist injury in a win over Purdue, Wisconsin has slowed things down even more than usual, playing 5 games at 61 possessions or fewer.  And, without a big man on the bench to pick up Leuer's minutes, the Badgers have joined the ranks of the league's perimeter-oriented teams.  Sophomore guard Jordan Taylor has started playing major minutes--36 or more in 4 of the 5 games--and has posted 51 points and 23 assists, vs. just 2 (!) turnovers, in that span.  As a team, Wiscosin has taken no fewer than 23 three-pointers in each of the 5 games.

For the most part, the approach has been successful.  The Badgers have beaten Northwestern (on the road), Michigan, and Penn State (in OT) and lost to Ohio State and Purdue.  Both the losses came on the road--no shame there.

It's helped that only-remaining-big-man Keaton Nankivil has become a more productive threat for the Badgers.  Nankivil has increased his scoring output in each of the last 5 games, culminating in a 25-point (on 7-8 three-point shooting) outburst in Wisconsin's narrow loss in West Lafayette. Jason Bohannon, meanwhile. has struggled to get good looks from beyond the arc with Leuer out, shooting just 7-29 on 3-point attempts over the 5 games.

As always, the key on defense against Wisconsin is good position defense against the swing offense to avoid giving up good looks near the basket, fouling and giving the Badgers chances to score at the line, and/or (even more so than usual) leaving 3-point shooters open on the weak side.  Wisconsin doesn't turn the ball over (15.4%) or crash the glass on offense (29.5%), so it all comes down to preventing quality scoring opportunities.

Trevon Hughes has had to take on more of the offense of late, taking 15+ shots from the field in the four games prior to the Purdue loss.  He may get something of the Manny Harris treatment, with multiple MSU defenders taking turns trying to keep him from getting in a rhythm.

Defensively, Wisconsin has been fairly average since losing Leuer, allowing 4 of 5 opponents to hit the point-per-possession mark.  Oddly, in light of Wisconsin missing its top shot-blocking threat, opponents have been most efficient from 3-point range--with those 4 opponents all making at least 40.0% of their 3-point attempts.  This would be a good time for Chris Allen to find his shooting touch--and for Kalin Lucas (7-15 from 3-point range over the last 3 games) to keep things going from outside.

On the season, the Badgers' defensive strengths lie in preventing good 2-point looks (43.7%), particularly on offensive putbacks.  Wisconsin ranks first in the nation in defensive rebounding percentage, allowing their opponents to gather just 24.9% of offensive misses.

Still, with the small lineup Bo Ryan is now fielding--only one player (Nankivil) in the current rotation is bigger than 6'6", 215 pounds--you'd sure think this game is a chance for MSU to impose its will in the paint.  Raymar Morgan and Draymond Green only combined to take 9 shots from the field in MSU's win over Wisconsin in East Lansing.  I'd expect that number to go up tomorrow night.

And those two players, along with Delvon Roe and Durrell Summers, will crash the glass hard.  In a game between two teams that traditionally prevent each other from getting easy initial looks at the basket, 10-12 second-chance points could go along way toward a Spartan win.

You may be aware that it's been a while since Michigan State won in Madison.  KenPom doesn't see it happening this year, either, predicting a 65-59 Wisconsin win in a 62-possession game.  Might as well have the numbers confirm what hard experience tells us: winning on the Badgers' home court will always be an uphill battle--regardless of the state of Bo Ryan's roster.

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Game outcome depends on reffing crew...

MSU not going to be able to impose their will in the paint if MSU bigs get in early foul trouble for ticky-tacky calls (as seems to happen more often than not when playing at the Kohl Center). I think if MSU is allowed to play their game and get into a rhythm they win. If it is a whistle-fest – MSU loses.

by MooTheKow on Feb 2, 2010 5:40 AM CST reply actions  

Well, the MSU defenders need to play smart then

Wisconsin isn’t going to beat us in the paint. Don’t pick up dumb fouls on defense when their guards try to penetrate and we should be able to post them up at the 4 spot on the other end.

Personally, I don’t like the idea that our fate is outside of our own hands. To the extent Wisconsin usually gets the benefit of the FT differential, it’s because they play fundamentally sound basketball.

And, from a statistical standpoint, they haven’t seen the traditional FT advantage over the last two seasons—just a 2-percentage-point differential in FTR this year.

Fight for The Only Colors: Green and White!

by KJ@theonlycolors on Feb 2, 2010 8:17 AM CST up reply actions  

Well...

Good news is I was watching an interview with Durrell Summers and he flat out said in the video that they weren’t going to be getting any calls and basically that they couldn’t try to use drawing fouls as a crutch.

Also – it isn’t the free throw differential I’m worried about so much as players like Raymar disappearing because of a couple quick phantom contact fouls. There are dumb fouls – and then there are fouls the refs call that the defender can do nothing about unless he jumps out of the way of the guy driving to the hoop (such as Raymar’s fourth foul in the game against Northwestern where he stood still – arms straight up – and the offensive player lightly brushed his hip while throwing up a bad shot). Dumb fouls annoy me because the MSU players should know better — the latter ones just drive me nuts. Just like I feel MSU’s reputation for being a ‘physical’ team often earns them fouls they didn’t deserve I think that Wisconsin’s reputation for playing ‘fundamentally sound’ lets them slide on fouls they do commit at times.

by MooTheKow on Feb 2, 2010 9:06 AM CST up reply actions  

I hear you, but get weary of the whole reffing argument sometimes

I’ll grant that anytime a B10 team goes on the road, they should be prepared to not get a few calls they might get at home. At the same time, we just won a couple of games on the road where the other team’s fanbase felt they had much to squawk about concerning non-calls (whether warranted or not). The whole reputation thing may play a role, but I also can’t help but see it as largely a media projection (Wisconsin is the more “physical” team against the “fundamentally sound” Dukes of the world, and so on): we may be perceived as being more “physical”—you know, ‘cause Izzo runs a war drill!— but then again, we run a slew of complex sets, rarely breakdown our defender and drive (save for KL), and if there is a weakness it’s a physical presence in the middle….meanwhile Wisconsin’s offense depends on getting physical mismatches, and the capacity of large, strong guards to back down their defenders. Anyway, at this juncture it is not like we don’t know what to expect from a trip to the Kohl Center—they will try to draw charges, they will protect their own rim, they don’t harass guards as physically as Purdue…making jump shots will be the key.

by RobbingGormanThomas on Feb 2, 2010 11:17 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm not big on the reffing argument usually...

Just against Wisconsin.. watching MSU/Wisconsin generally makes me want to destroy things.

by MooTheKow on Feb 2, 2010 11:23 AM CST up reply actions  

Another post...

From the RCMB in a thread titled "I hope the Spartans don’t get intimidated by all the banners hanging in the Kohl Center".

by MooTheKow on Feb 2, 2010 6:05 AM CST reply actions  

Hilarious

I will say, however, I remember the run they had in the 2000 NCAA’s. Primarily because it was cut short by the title-bound Spartans, but I digress.

by cwel87 on Feb 2, 2010 6:30 AM CST up reply actions  

Not going out on a limb

But this is unequivocally the conference game I’m least confident in winning so far.
For my money, the only game MSU has won that you didn’t really expect them to was @MINN. This would be No. 2. Victories like this win conference titles.

by intrpdtrvlr on Feb 2, 2010 8:02 AM CST reply actions  

Agree.

Looking at the Wisconsin roster, you’d think that this should be no more difficult than the average conference road game. It isn’t that simple, of course. Bo Ryan teams never beat themselves; they make you beat them, and that ain’t exactly easy, especially there.

If we win tonight, it’d be 1) the sweetest conference victory of the last two years, and 2) almost guarantee a conference title. Let’s do this.

by LVS on Feb 2, 2010 10:31 AM CST up reply actions  

We should win, really.

What worries me most is playing a game on Groundhog Day, against a team we have a hard time with, in a building we never win in. I keep thinking back to the movie and how things never changed.

Plus, Badgers look kinda like groundhogs too.

by rook34 on Feb 2, 2010 9:37 AM CST reply actions  

Trevon Hughes

I know Wisconsin plays a sound team game, but the key to winning is completely disrupting Trevon IMO. Not expecting a performance as bad as last time, but hopefully minimizing his ability to take over a game gives us the upper hand.

by TMadison25 on Feb 2, 2010 11:19 AM CST reply actions  

You knew it was coming....

Hightower, Valentine, and O’Neill are reportedly tonight’s officiating crew.

My optimism is now gone.

by rook34 on Feb 2, 2010 3:37 PM CST reply actions  

Oh hell

Hightower loves to call offensive fouls, and playing in the home of the biggest flop artists this side of Duke is not going to be fun with him in the house.

by SpartanDan on Feb 2, 2010 5:27 PM CST up reply actions  

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