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A Hole Too Deep: Ohio State 74, Michigan State 67

Michigan State has now played six games against upper division Big Ten teams.  Here are the halftime scorelines from those six games:

MSUOpponent
Ohio St 26 39
Purdue 33 47
@Illinois 34 35
@Wisconsin 23 38
Illinois 36 29
Wisconsin 22 20
Average 29.0 34.7

 

Despite playing four of the six games at home, MSU has also trailed at the half in four of the games--by 13+ points in three of them.  Against teams like Minnesota (8-point deficit on road) and Michigan (1-point deficit), they could overcome a poor start.  Against NCAA Tournament-quality teams, they haven't been able to.  All four of the halftime deficits shown above have presaged losses.

Star-divide

On offense, it feels like MSU is just playing with too fine a margin for error.  This team doesn't have the size to consistently score in the low post, is not a great 3-point shooting team, and only has one player who can consistently get into the lane to score.  That means the scoring has to knocking down midrange shots or executing set plays that lead to easy baskets and trips to the free throw line.

When it's all going right, the Lucas/Allen/Summers/Morgan/Green core can do those two things very well.  But it often takes too long to get those things going.  And, by the time the team finds its rhythm, trying to come back two points at a time against teams with equivalent talent has takes more energy than the team can summon up.  Despite having 4 starters play the full 40 minutes today, Thad Matta's team look like the fresher, more composed squad from the point that MSU briefly grabbed the lead with 4 minutes to go onward.

Neither of the two players who have generally been MSU's most consistent offensive performers could get things going in the first half.  Kalin Lucas and Draymond Green combined for just 3 points before the half.  Give some credit to the other three potential offensive playmakers--the guys who usually can't be counted on to all be on their games at the same time.  Durrell Summers, Chris Allen, and Raymar Morgan combined for 36 points in the game on 30 FG attempts; 21 of those points came in the first half.  Morgan also battled for 14 rebounds (5 of them on offense).

Overall, it seemed like MSU was thrown off a bit by the fact that Matta decided not to play much zone.  Lucas ended up forcing a lot of shots, finishing the game 3-13 from the field (8 assists vs. zero TOs, though).  When Ohio State did briefly go zone, Chris Allen hit a long 3-pointer to dissuade them from doing much more of that.  Ultimately, MSU just couldn't find enough ways to score straight up against a team with equal/greater athleticism.

In a 70-possession game, MSU's deficiencies were equally split between offense and defense.  On defense, the gameplan for guarding Evan Turner worked quite well up until the late stages of the game.  Kalin Lucas played off Turner and baited him into taking long jumpshots.  Turner eventually found ways to get into the lane for better looks at the basket and some trips to the free throw line, but it took him 17 FG attempts and 12 FT attempts to get his 20 points.  (Turner also added 6 assists and 10 rebounds--all on defense.)

The problem was guarding Ohio State's other perimeter players.  Ohio State shot 5 for 10 from 3-point range to build their halftime lead.  For the game, Jon Diebler, William Buford, and David Lighty combined for 42 points on 31 field goal attempts.  The hedging by MSU defenders toward the lane helped contain Turner but cost them on kick-outs for 3-point attempts.  (Buford also got a clean look at a three off our patented "have the defender guarding the in-bounds passer turn his back, leaving the passer open for a return pass and open shot" strategy.)

MSU was unable to beat Ohio State on the boards today (Morgan was the only MSU player to grab more than one offensive rebound), and neither team turned the ball over that much.  So the game came down to straight scoring ability.  Advantage Buckeyes.  Ohio State's shooting line was .429/.412/.709 (2pt/3pt/FT).  Michigan State's was .438/.333/.556.  MSU had the moral victory of fouling Kyle Madsen out, but Ohio State held its own at the line, eventually piling up 24 free throw attempts once the Spartans had to result to fouling intentionally in the final minute.

 

I'll end there, except to say that this season sure feels like it's rapidly slipping away.

Up next: A midweek bye, giving Tom Izzo a full week to conjure up a miracle in West Lafayette and reseize the chance to win a share of the conference title.  Sunday the 28th at 4:00; CBS.

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Texas...

starting to understand how Texas fans must be feeling.

by MooTheKow on Feb 21, 2010 4:46 PM CST reply actions  

Don't jump off the cliff yet.

The NCAA’s are about match-ups and, as much as conference titles are great, that is the ultimate goal. Sparty was pretty much smacked by the Fightin’ Evan Turners, but that should not come as a total shock as he is starting to look rather Naismith-ish (award, not old, dead white guy). Big Ten fans may not like the sound of it, but Thad Matta has OSU back to the Randy Ayers heyday of Buckeyes basketball where that football school was a legitimate contender on the hardwood as well. The good news for Sparty is that these games will help them in the long-run. Yes, an Iowa fan is preaching losing as good medicine…

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Feb 22, 2010 3:37 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't know

We’re getting to the point where “this will help in the long run” starts to be less re-assuring. It’s almost March. This is the long run with the Big Ten title on the line where you want to see the benefits of those experiences start to take hold.

by intrpdtrvlr on Feb 22, 2010 6:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Acceptance

This is what we are – a mid-level top-25 team. The signs have been there from the beginning of the season, and we all wanted to believe that this team was more. The 9-0 Big Ten start was an illusion. We haven’t played forty minutes of basketball against any quality team this year. Sure, on any given night there is enough talent to play with most teams, but there hasn’t been any sort of consistency. There isn’t one player that we can bank on game after game. The expectations were unrealistically high – the preseason hype had our ranking inflated. KJ, you capture quite astutely our weaknesses, and teams have exploited those weaknesses. It will be interesting to see how this team now responds. I hope they can bring themselves to rise up and challenge Purdue, and perhaps even take home a victory. Gosh knows their collective psyche needs it. I hope that this isn’t the beginning of a freefall into giving up on the season. They can win some games and surprise some teams who may take them a little lighter now.

by donaldo on Feb 21, 2010 6:38 PM CST reply actions  

Something like that.

I’ve kept waiting for the team to kick into that next gear – to demonstrate that they can win against the Big Ten’s best and potentially the nation’s. However, they don’t appear to have it and MSU looks like a clear step behind the Big Ten’s two best teams. On top of that, I’m getting a real “4 or 5 seed who will struggle to see the Sweet Sixteen” vibe. That’s too bad.
There’s still time to prove this impression wrong but opportunities are slipping away.

Also, props to KJ for setting the bar high for “TOC post whose title sounds the most like an erotic film.” And it’s only February.

by intrpdtrvlr on Feb 21, 2010 9:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Mystifying

I agree that we need to resign ourselves to the idea that we are not in the top-tier of the Big Ten with OSU and Purdue, who both displayed tremendous poise in winning in our building. I find what seems to be the lack of focus the most befuddling, especially for a team that knows what it feels like to be locked in for three pressure-filled weeks. What nags at me are the strange brain locks we saw today: two players fighting each other for a rebound only to lose it out-of-bounds; not closing out on arguably the best three-point shooter in the B10; shooting jumpers before our feet are set; the standing around for nearly twenty seconds of the shot-clock with about two minutes left in a close game, and so on.

Lucious’ struggles have had more of an impact than I think we realize: to have a second scorer coming off the bench to complement Green was a luxury. Once rather fearless, he seems hesitant now, and Izzo has him on a much shorter leash. Glad to see him hit a three today, which I hope can help restore some confidence.

by RobbingGormanThomas on Feb 21, 2010 11:16 PM CST reply actions  

concentration and focus

The last couple years I thought the occasional lapses the result of youth, having freshmen and sophomores in starring roles. I just assumed this year’ team would overcome the loss of Suton and Walton by having the young guys mature. It’s become increasingly clear that that is not the case. The defensive lapses, the lousy foul shooting (10 out of 18 last night!), the silly turnovers, the missed lay ups — they all suggest a team oddly lacking in focus. This is deeply perplexing for such an experienced team.

KJ may be right that that there is just not enough offensive ability. Roe in particular turns out to be quite limited offensively. I thought he would have a reasonable 10 foot jumper by now, but he really does not have any ability facing the basket. But for hte other players, it is the inconsistency from game to game (actually even from half to half) that is crazy. But I would argue that offensive deficiencies have often plagued Izzo teams, particularly during the dog days of the Big Ten schedule. What has distinguished this team is not being able to compensate with defense, rebounding and savvy for those inevitable offensive droughts. Last night was typical — the first half hole was dug because the lousy shooting was accompanied by 9 turnovers, countless defensive lapses and 50 % shooting from the line.

As a spartan fan, I have always believed that Izzo teams could beat more talented and athletic teams because of grit and savvy. I have the opposite sense from this team. They beat the teams like Penn State with less talent, but they can not compete with equally talented teams, because something intangible is missing.

Now, Izzo has a way of conjuring success late in the season, so I would never discount a March run, but my expectation level is such that I would be happy if the team gets through the first weekend.

by Anderlecht on Feb 22, 2010 2:12 AM CST reply actions  

Rexrode's take...

http://noise.typepad.com/hey_joe/2010/02/team-lcd.html

Sounds like this is just a flawed team lacking chemistry and with too many ‘distractions’ (i.e. NBA agents and girls). It is sounding like they’re just not a very close-knit group and they’re not really buying what Izzo is selling. Reading things like that really kind of make it hard to see them getting their act together in these last couple weeks. Such a shame after the season started out looking so promising.

by MooTheKow on Feb 22, 2010 6:11 AM CST reply actions  

We all love Draymond.

But I’m not convinced his teammates feel the same way. He has a large personality and always lets people know what’s on his mind. Could be some chemistry issues.
I’m merely speculating though.

by intrpdtrvlr on Feb 22, 2010 6:43 AM CST up reply actions  

Would you say that

Everbody Loves Draymond?

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Feb 22, 2010 1:36 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I cannot believe

I have not thought to use that as a post title.

Fight for The Only Colors: Green and White!

by KJ@theonlycolors on Feb 22, 2010 1:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Go for it

but just remember a Hawkeye gave it to you.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Feb 22, 2010 1:58 PM CST up reply actions  

I wish we could say Everybody Loves Raymar

Then we’d know he was playing to his potential and we’d be ahead in the Big Ten race.

by donaldo on Feb 22, 2010 2:48 PM CST up reply actions  

We lost this game on the boards and on D

Ohio State is 280th in the nation in offensive rebounding percentage. We are 12th, and on an average day would have outrebounded them by a full 10 percentage points. The other issue is the slow starts against good teams. I’m not sure what explains it but our first halves are often really bad. If the team that played in the second half of this game or the second half of the Purdue game (or the UNC game) plays a whole game we look like a top ten team. Unfortunately no-one seems to have any sense of intensity or concentration until we’re down by double digits.

I’m not buying the lack of size argument in this game. They have Dallas Lauderdale, who is 6’8". We start two guys – Morgan and Roe – who are that size. We had the size advantage on the interior (which is where it counts most) yesterday. By the standards of most Big 10 front lines this year we are not undersized. We either don’t go inside when we should (maybe that’s part of the chemistry issue) or have guys down low that are afraid to put shots up. Another game where we allowed more than a point per possession. That has to end now.

by TheCrestedHelm on Feb 22, 2010 9:28 AM CST reply actions  

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