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Getting by without Kalin Lucas

The latest from Joe Rexrode:

The good news for MSU: Tom Izzo said today that Kalin Lucas' sprain is nowhere near as serious as Raymar Morgan's from the fall, and that he still thinks it may be until Saturday afternoon before he knows for sure whether Lucas can play at Illinois that night.

The bad news: Lucas still isn't walking comfortably on it, which puts him a few miles from practicing. He received treatment today while the Spartans went at it. Izzo did say it's not a high sprain, which would seem to make a rapid recovery more plausible.

And in Tom Izzo's own words:

“He’s been icing all day,” Izzo said. “He’s a little more swollen today, which was disappointing. But it’s gone down a little bit. What they’re trying to get him to do is in 48 hours — which won’t even be until 10 o’clock tonight — is have him walking on it and hope to get some blood through it.”

. . .

“I’d say (Lucas is) very, very questionable for Saturday,” Izzo said. “Do I know? I don’t know. Would I hide it from Illinois? Not in a million years. … He’s capable of not practicing for two days and still playing. Do I think of him as a key guy for Saturday? Well, that’s already out. Do we play him to win a game and damage it? No. We’ll know more (Friday), but I could see this being a Saturday-afternoon decision.”

Izzo tends to be optimistic in evaluating the odds an injured player will be available for the next game.  I think it's very likely MSU has to play Saturday--and maybe next Tuesday--without Kalin Lucas.  So how does the team adjust?

Star-divide

Let's start with the math.  Here are the current conference-only minutes-played numbers:

PlayerMin/G
Lucas 32.2
Allen 28.6
Summers 28.2
Green 26.7
Morgan 26.2
Lucious 21.1
Roe 19.5
Nix 6.9
Sherman 6.1
Thornton 3.9

 

32 minutes is a lot of minutes to backfill.  Start by bumping Korie Lucious up to 32; that fills 11 minutes.  There's not much room to give Chris Allen, Durrell Summers, and Raymar Morgan more minutes at the perimeter spots--maybe 10 minutes maximum.  The remaining 11 minutes will fall to Austin Thornton, Derrick Nix, and/or Garrick Sherman--the latter two players getting on the floor in more two-true-big-men lineups with Morgan playing the 3 spot.  We'll probably see quite a bit of that Saturday night, since Illinois is one of the few Big Ten teams to start two true post guys (Tisdale/Davis).

(Izzo says that Mike Kebler is an option to play at point guard.  Kebler is fairly athletic for a walk-on guard [my statement after the Green-White scrimmage: "Might be more athletic than I had realized and a real option to play a few minutes at PG in a pinch."], but I really have a hard time seeing a guy who's played zero meaningful minutes in his college career suddenly being a major contributor against two upper-level Big Ten opponents.)

Defensively, the impact of Lucas' absence is mostly significant simply from a depth standpoint.  Lucas isn't a ball-hawking-type point guard.  MSU perimeter defenders rotate frequently on picks and cuts.  If Thornton plays double-digit minutes, the defense simply gets slower and bigger.  The major concern is that the result of a less fleet-of-foot lineup would be foul trouble, which would throw things further out of whack.  Ideally, the MSU players realize they have to buckle down on defense and control the boards even more than they already have to offset the decreased offensive potency without Lucas.

On offense, Korie Lucious will be the primary ball-handler every minute he's on the floor.  As much as the offense tends to look somewhat disjointed when Lucious is running the show, we should keep in mind that we're implicitly comparing him to one of the top 3 or 4 point guards in the country.  Lucious is a very talented playmaker who's put up serviceable numbers this season: .409/.333/.889 shooting line and a 2.4 assist/turnover ratio.  He's going to make mistakes; the trick will be bouncing back from those mistakes and keeping the team on as even a keel as possible.

Without a true third point guard on scholarship, Chris Allen will be the emergency point guard when Lucious needs a rest (the news reports confirm that Allen is practicing at the point).  That makes sense for a couple reasons: He's not shooting the ball well right now anyway (0-5 on 3-pointers in the last 3 games) and he's been handling the ball up top with Lucas running off the ball a fair amount of late.  Allen's assist-to-turnover ratio in conference play (2.7 to 1.7) actually compares favorably to Lucas' (3.8 to 2.5).  The struggle will be if opponents choose to pressure Allen in the back court.  In that case, we're likely to see a team approach to bringing the ball up.  Durrell Summers is probably Allen's equal in terms of pure dribbling ability.

The biggest problem on offense is going to be what happens when offensive possessions break down and someone needs to create a shot with the shot clock running down.  Lucious is just 29-68 on 2-point attempts in 51 career games.  Allen and Summers can take the ball to the hoop, but that usually only happens off pump fakes.  Asking them do it with an opposing defender squared up with them is a recipe for a charging call.

MSU will need to be more aggressive earlier in the shot clock and, if things do break down, maybe look for jump shots off kick-outs from guards driving toward the lane.  The versatile Draymond Green will be called to manufacture some scoring opportunities, as well.

The timing on this situation is less than ideal: You've got a road game in perhaps the most hostile arena in the conference (in terms of crowd noise, at least) followed by a home game against a team whose defensive style drives us nuts even with our all-conference playmaker in the lineup.

A split of the two games would be more than acceptable.  Worst case scenario, we find ourselves in a first-place tie a week from now going into two more winnable games (at Penn State, at Indiana) with Lucas on the mend and/or the rest of the team having become more comfortable playing without him.  The news that this is not a high-ankle sprain and shouldn't, therefore, linger throughout the remainder of the season is certainly very good news.

P.S. The "at Indiana" game is looking a little tougher after tonight.  Of course, we made it look pretty tough last year.

P.P.S.  Hopefully, my excessively-in-depth analysis of the Lucasless scenario serves as a reverse jinx and he recovers in time to play at least some meaningful minutes Saturday night.

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IU is much improved...

But I don’t see them beating MSU at home. A rivalry game at home is one thing, but I don’t see it happening against you guys.

by rcpratt on Feb 4, 2010 8:36 PM CST reply actions  

Tough break

On a positive note though, in 2000, playing without Cleaves really helped other team members improve. Hopefully Summers, Allen, and Lucious step up and use the extra minutes as a chance to prove themselves. At the end of the day though, we are still in the drivers seat for the league title.

by Milton58 on Feb 4, 2010 9:56 PM CST reply actions  

One could say the same about Suton/Morgan last year

Do we make that run if Green, Roe, and Summers don’t get that extra playing time?

by SpartanDan on Feb 4, 2010 10:15 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not worried about Korie.

I am worried about Davis and Tisdale after we shut them down at Breslin.

Delvon and Raymar have to be excellent, and we have to get 10 minutes out of Nix/Sherman/Thornton.

The game is there to win. Could be a great springboard if we respond right and the Illini don’t throw a no-hitter at us.

by rook34 on Feb 4, 2010 10:34 PM CST reply actions  

Assembly Hall is loud

I lived in Champaign in 2001 – 2003 and attended our games there in 2002 and 2003. The place is loud and dark and very orange. It looks like a hunters’ convention in there with everyone wearing blaze orange. The game in 02 went OK but the one in 03 was a disaster on the order of what we experienced at the Kohl center last Tuesday night. It is a tough atmosphere to get a road win in.

Lucas really has a knack for finishing around the rim that Lucious has not demonstrated yet. That’s not intended as a knock on Lucious – he’s a very good player – but Lucas is one of the best in the college game at getting to the bucket off the dribble and manufacturing a shot that goes in (or drawing a foul).

The other place we’ll miss him is on the perimeter. He, Lucious and Allen are, on paper, our three best three point shooters. When Lucious and Lucas are in there together, one of them is free to come off screens looking for 3 pointers. With Lucas out, Lucious will be spending less time doing that and more time playing the point. That leaves Allen as the only guy to give us perimeter shooting, and as you note he has not been on lately, and has a tendency to fade away in high pressure road games. Lets hope he finds his shot. It would be nice if Summers got hot from the perimeter tomorrow night as well.

by TheCrestedHelm on Feb 5, 2010 8:27 AM CST reply actions  

A good start key

The slow starts that have hurt them this year could be a real killer against Illinois, who will be amped up even more because of Lucas being out. I think Roe and Morgan will deliver big time around the basket and either Summers or Allen will score 15-20. Lucious will be fine and with a couple more minutes I expect him to be able to be big from the perimeter. Lucas is obviously the better player but Lucious can stroke it if he gets hot.

by nationgreen on Feb 5, 2010 9:36 AM CST reply actions  

You may not win the league without Lucas

but that’s not really what MSU basketball is about. The injury will allow more playing time for other kids and this team will just be that much tougher and seasoned by the time the NCAA rolls around. As an Iowa fan, I’ve always loved watching Izzo’s basketball teams because they remind me so much of Kirk Ferentz’s football teams (and the opposite of MSU football teams) i.e. they typically get much better as the season goes on. Sparty will be no fun to play come March, especially with Lucas likely healthy by then.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Feb 5, 2010 9:42 AM CST reply actions  

What about Zeke?

Is there some reason Dahlman couldn’t give some quality minutes? I believe he might be a better option than Thornton or Kebler. We haven’t seen much of him the past two seasons, but he did show a few flashes as a sophomore. He is a senior and might be more poised than our other options, and who knows, given the opportunity, perhaps he could bury a few.

by donaldo on Feb 5, 2010 11:32 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

I agree

I would like to see Dahlman get some of the minutes, just for all the work he has put in on the team the past few years. He could have transferred somewhere and gotten a lot more playing time, but instead he stuck around, and the team is better for it. Let him play.

by Milton58 on Feb 5, 2010 11:44 AM CST up reply actions  

I'd take him over Thornton

I guess Izzo must see something from Thornton to keep inserting him into games, but he always looks lost out there to me. Dahlman came in pretty highly touted and I would not mind giving him a shot to see what he can do.

IMO we’re best off letting our freshman bigs get more minutes – they look more comfortable out there than the other options, and have played more minutes this year. That says something to me, namely that they are our 8th and 9th best players at this point.

We can use Green or Morgan on the perimeter in limited doses to help with ball handling, and that along with Summers, Allen, and Lucious should be enough depth on the perimeter.

by TheCrestedHelm on Feb 5, 2010 11:46 AM CST up reply actions  

agree

Thornton’s minutes are very puzzling to me; he seems too slow to cover guards and too small to cover forwards; and he just does not make shots. Plus, Dalhman started some games as a freshman, and I don’t remember thinking he was totally out of place. Unless Illinois really presses, I would get both Green and Morgan more touches, and rely mostly on KL2, with a few breathers here and there.

by Anderlecht on Feb 5, 2010 12:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Third, fifth, whatever

I too don’t see why Thornton has such an edge on Dalhman. Granted, perhaps watching a practice would reveal the reason but every time Dalhman comes in he plays hard-nosed almost to a fault. Thornton has never come in and wow-ed me a single time. He always looks shaky and one step behind.
I, for one, would love to see ID get some minutes with Lucas out.

by intrpdtrvlr on Feb 5, 2010 12:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Izzo’s gotta watch Purdue. That game is coming up. IU’s gettin better though (regards to the game on 2-4-10), if he wants to stay off a downhill angle towards losing then they better get Lucas out on the court pronto or they’ll give it up to Kebler. I’ve never heard of him, we’ll yeah I did. Seen his stats and not seen him play. Uh oh. Thinking This might be a make it or break game.

Git 'r' dun.

by this_is_SPARTA on Feb 5, 2010 2:26 PM CST reply actions  

Cancer.

Free throw contest FYI tommorow, Izzo vs. Weber for Cancer. Links here.

Git 'r' dun.

by this_is_SPARTA on Feb 5, 2010 2:33 PM CST reply actions  

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