It seems like just yesterday they were Baby Boilers: MSU-Purdue Preview
Your MICHIGAN STATE SPARTANS vs. the PURDUE BOILERMAKERS
THE BRESLIN CENTER, EAST LANSING, MICHIGAN
TUESDAY, 9:00 PM (ET)
TV: ESPN (Musburger/Lavin/Andrews)
ONLINE RADIO FEED: WJR
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Boilermaker bullets:
- Overall record of 19-3; conference record of 7-3
- Key wins: Tennessee (neutral), Wake Forest, at Alabama, West Virginia, at Illinois, Wisconsin
KeyAll losses: at Wisconsin, Ohio State, at Northwestern (consecutively)- KenPom ranking: #10. #22 on offense, #17 on defense.
- 12 players averaging 7 minutes per game! Alright, that's skewed by (1) John Hart's emergence and (2) Lewis Jackson's injury. Still, this is a pretty deep team relative to recent Purdue squads.
- Not so deep in terms of scoring options, though: 3 players averaging 14+ points per game (Hummel/Moore/Johnson). No one else above 6 per game.
- Johnson lead the way on the offensive boards (2.7/game), Hummel on the defensive boards (5.5/game).
- No Purdue player is averaging more than 2.3 turnovers per game (Moore).
[Warning: Anxiety-induced excessively-detailed/lengthed, not-necessarily-fully-coherent previewing ahead.]
This team really needs very little introduction to Michigan State fans. The top five players in the rotation--Robbie Hummel, E`Twaun Moore, JaJuan Johnson, Chris Kramer, and Keaton Grant--have been the core of Matt Painter's team for the last 3 years. In fact, with the exception of Johnson as a freshman, that group of five has led the team in minutes played in each of the last 3 seasons.
The Boilermakers' tempo-free profile, therefore, doesn't come as much of a surprise. They force tough shots (41.8 Opp 2pt%), win the turnover battle by a large margin (16.4 vs. 24.1), rebound the ball adequately on defense (Opp OReb% of 30.8), and don't worry too much about going after their misses (OReb% of 33.1).
The one oddity is that, after two consecutive years of being much better on defense than on offense, the 2010 edition of the Purdue basketball team is suddenly quite balanced. The regression on defense can be traced to two factors, both of which may be of minimal benefit to MSU:
- Opponents are shooting the ball quite well from 3-point range (36.7%). In fact, 5 of Purdue's last 6 opponents have been at 39% or better from beyond the arc. Still, Purdue's man-to-man defense doesn't result in a lot of opposing 3-point attempts, and MSU doesn't take very many shots from beyond the arc.
- The Boilermakers are fouling more frequently, allowing their opponents to post a combined free throw rate of 39.8. That appears to be at least partially a function of breaking in three freshmen on defense: Kelsey Barlow, D.J. Byrd, and Patrick Bade are all causing over 6.5 fouls per 40 minutes. That issue may be rectifying itself, though, as only 3 of 10 Big Ten opponents have posted FTRs above 40.
The horror-inducing aspect of Purdue's defensive profile for any MSU fan is, of course, their ability to create turnovers--buckets and buckets of turnovers The brand of aggressive man-to-man defense Matt Painter preaches is exactly the kind of defense that disrupts Tom Izzo's set-play-heavy offense.
True to form, the Boilermakers are causing opponents to turn the ball over on nearly 1 out of every 4 possessions this season. With Kalin Lucas either not playing or playing at well under 100%, that statistic is particularly scary this time around. Even with a health Lucas, MSU has turned the ball over on at least 25% of possessions in each of the 4 match-ups with Purdue over the last 2 seasons.
If there's a tiny, pinhole-sized statistical ray of hope, it's that Purdue hasn't been quite as impressive in the turnover-creation department in recent weeks. Five of their last 9 opponents have actually held on to the ball on more than 80% of their possessions. That may be a function of the fact that the Boilermaker turnover-creator-in-chief, Chris Kramer, has been dealing with ankle injury and has only posted multiple steals in 3 of those 9 games. The Purdue Basketball Blog noted the following after Purdue's closer-than-expected (but nevertheless-gangsta-rap-inciting) win over Indiana last week:
Chris Kramer needs a vacation. I hope he's sleeping in a hyperbaric chamber this weekend in preparation for the Michigan State game. He has a consistent look of pain and exhaustion.
Still, it's hard to see Purdue not coming out as aggressively as possible on defense in a game they really need to win to stay in the Big Ten title hunt--particularly in light of how well that strategy's worked for them against MSU in the past. Further, the fact that the lightning-quick Lewis Jackson is back from a foot injury and will be available to harass whoever's bringing the ball up the floor for MSU for 15-20 minutes will not help our cause. (Not to mention the fact that Kramer has had 4 full days between games for his ankle to heal.)
Offensively, Purdue has improved significantly from last season. That's largely been a function of scoring more efficiently around the basket. The team is shooting 52.0% on 2-point attempts, led by their three offensive leaders:
- Robbie Hummel is making 52.4% of his 2-point attempts, to go along with a 3-point shooting percentage of 36.5 and a Shawn Respert-like free throw percentage of 90.1. Combined with a miniscule turnover rate of just 8.5%, Hummel's stats equate to a stellar offensive rating of 124.6.
- E'Twaun Moore is making an extremely-impressive-for-a-shooting-guard 56.0% of his 2-point attempts to go with an adequate 3-point shooting percentage of 35.9. After an up-and-down sophomore season, Moore has been much more consistent this season, having scored in double digits in every game except the season opener. He comes in having made 7 of 14 three-pointers over the last 4 games.
- JaJuan Johnson is shooting 53.6% on 2-point attempts, supplemented by a free throw rate of 59.6. He's turning those trips to the free throw line into points at a pretty efficient rate (72.9) for a 6'10" player. After a rough stretch to start Big Ten play--scoring double digits against just 1 of the team's first 5 conference opponents--Johnson is averaging 18.6 points on 11.2 FGA over the last 5 games.
Hummel and Johnson both represent difficult match-ups for MSU. Assuming Lucas' minutes are limited, you'd think Tom Izzo will need to stick with bigger lineups. (I'd rather not see much, if any, of Dahlman and Thornton against the Purdue defense.) That means Delvon Roe, Garrick Sherman, and Derrick Nix will need to play good position defense on Johnson. Johnson will be able to shoot the ball over all three of those guys, so they'll need to make sure he's taking the shots from 15 out rather than 10. Johnson doesn't pass the ball much (Assist Rate = 4.7), so he's not nearly as dangerous if he's out away from the basket.
Draymond Green and Raymar Morgan, meanwhile, will try to keep up with Hummel. Given how fundamentally sound Hummel is with the basketball, Green will need to keep his feet moving to avoid blocking calls and Morgan will need to resist the temptation to reach for the ball.
Even if MSU can neutralize Hummel and Johnson, Moore remains as the wild card. Here's what BoilerTMill recently had to say about Moore:
I don't want him to have the nickname of Smooge anymore. I say we go with "The Assassin". He is fulfilling the role I said he would before the season: The guy that gives us a basket when we absolutely need it. Right before halftime last night he hit a big three. As Delaware Boiler said in the OpenThread after that shot, "Just hit the red button with Moore". E'Twaun has been our most consistent player this year. He has been in double figures in every game except the opener against Cal State Northridge. His last two games have actually been his worst scoring-wise in Big Ten play, but he is providing offense when we need it. He is also dropping dimes and grabbing necessary rebounds at times. He also has a sense of The Moment, as evidenced by his killer floater with 1:19 left.
MSU's defensive approach will presumably be to hedge even more than normal off shooters to prevent Purdue's big three from getting good looks around the basket. Outside of Hummel and Moore, the three Purdue players with 50 or more 3-point attempts this season (Keaton Grant, Ryne Smith, and D.J. Byrd) are all shooting below .300. Freshman John Hart is an X-factor, having scored 28 points in 78 minutes since springing forth from the very end of the bench to help push Purdue over the top against Illinois 5 games ago.
KenPom basically has this game as toss-up, with MSU winning 72-71 in a 69 possession game. Given (1) how Purdue's defense gives MSU fits and (2) that the first problem is greatly exacerbated by the fact that the one guy who can consistently make teams pay for overplaying on the perimeter was wearing an immobilizing boot a few days ago, it's hard to not think Purdue goes into his game with a decided advantage.
MSU will need to implement the positives from the Illinois game--getting Draymond Green, Raymar Morgan, and Durrell Summers the ball in position to make plays--without the negatives--turnovers. The shot-blocking presence of JaJuan Johnson (2.0 per game) will add to the challenge. A repeat performance of Chris Allen's 3-point barrage against the Illini would help. Finally, a healthy dose of second-chance points will need to be a given for MSU to win this game.
It's a cliché, but very much true in this instance: An MSU win tomorrow night will take a true team effort--a cohesive defensive effort to shut down three different dangerous scorers and a collective decisiveness on offense to use Purdue's defensive hawkishness against them to create easy baskets. I expect the crowd (which will include this blogger) to rally around the team. Whether that's a significant factor against a team with a lineup as experienced as Purdue's is an open question.
To conclude, my fear/paranoia level (copyright: MGoBlog) is at a solid 9: Baseline 5, +1 for adrenaline will only keep Kalin Lucas on the court for so long, -1 for Draymond Green's willpower knows no bounds, +1 for even Tom Izzo can't gameplan for three reliable scorers, -1 for positive karma from a white-out crowd in the midst of white-out weather, +1 for Raymar Morgan doesn't score much against teams with shot-blockers, +1 for 25%-plus turnover percentage seems inevitable, +1 for Korie Lucious' confidence has to be completely shot so 30 or 35% is probably a better bet, +1 for, even if we keep it close, how do we pull out the win at the end without a healthy Lucas?
(Oh, and "Desperate need to win level" is right up there, too, given Wisconsin's no-more-games-against-title-contenders schedule and the fact I'm going to have to write a second Purdue game preview in just a few weeks.)
Alright, talk me down off the hyper-analytical blogging ledge.
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They aren't the Lakers, dude.
We’ve got a shot.
Isn’t it about time we all stopped cowering in fear?
Let’s take it to them and see what happens. They’ve been borderline bad in some games away from home.
They may get us, fine. But it’s a bit disturbing to see everyone so down on a team that’s 9-2 and in first place.
Their biggest strength: creating turnovers. Our biggest weakness: committing them.
Our biggest strength: rebounding. Their biggest weakness: rebounding.
Sure, we’ve got matchup problems. So do they.
You’d seriously think these guys were 49-0 the way people are talking.
For the record
I’m not down on this team.
I’m down on this team in this specific situation against this specific team.
Fight for The Only Colors: Green and White!
by KJ@theonlycolors on Feb 8, 2010 10:15 PM CST up reply actions
Wasn't speaking as much to you, sir.....
as to many of the people I’ve talked to that act as if State can’t win another game.
Purdue brings the team they took to Assembly Hall last week to Breslin tomorrow, they’re in trouble.
I doubt they will. But they aren’t above pulling a stinker.
My breakdown
MSU has played 11 conference games.
Eight have been games you expected them to win, hands down. They are 8-0 in those games. That is not to be taken lightly.
Two have been toss-ups (@MINN, @ILL). MSU is 1-1 in those games.
One game was an expected loss (sorry, I think it was) – @WISC.
For my money this is the third of the toss-ups and we need to take it. Winning the games you’re supposed and taking the toss-ups is how you win the Big Ten title. You don’t need to win @PU and @WISC; just take care of business.
Just another way of saying the same thing
But if we can get shots off, I like our chances. Put the ball up on the glass and go get it. One wonders if Izzo wouldn’t want to speed the game up, try to get some early offense, especially if things are resting on Korie’s shoulders (who seems to react a beat or two slower in our sets than he should). Don’t let Purdue dig in on defense and jump all of our set plays as we run them. Plus, they may be deeper than in years past, but I like our bench more: they certainly have nobody like Green coming in off the bench.
by RobbingGormanThomas on Feb 9, 2010 7:24 AM CST reply actions
Possibilities
If Lucas can make it onto the court, I like our chances. This can be the game where he cements himself as a leader – the hobbled warrior giving everything he has for his team. The others are sure to be inspired, and the crowd will be moved to a frenzied pitch. Gotta believe.
February Madness?
This game has the feel to me of a tournament type game – lose and you go home. After hearing Izzo’s comments about how Breslin isn’t what it used to be, I think the student section will be rocking. A good start is so key. Couple that with a rocking crowd + settled nerves because they aren’t fighting back from down 10 and this could truly be the game where they round into form for the real tournament. These are the games where Izzo pushes all the right buttons and guys like Raymar turn in their best performances.
Roe, Morgan huge
Delvon Roe seems to have made a huge jump on defense this year. If he can go
28-30 really effective minutes on Johnson that would be huge. Morgan, Green, ? some Summers on Robbie Hummel will be big. Early fouls on his defenders will hurt their confidence and result in points if shooting fouls as Hummel is an excellent ft shooter.
Psychologically, Hummel’s defenders may well have the hardest job as they do not want
to get in foul trouble, yet be very aggressive, and prevent Hummel from having his regular
kind of night. The emergence of Moore and his consistency make it much harder as there
can be no 6 eyes on Hummel due to the damage Johnson and Moore can consistently offer.
Huge match up of our lone Senior Morgan, Summers and Allen against the very experienced 4 yr starters. Will be really interesting to see if Allen is defending Moore and how he does with that.
All 3 sophmores will be huge. Luscious only needs to be
at about 80% of his best however the early game will probably be huge in terms of his
confidence. If he can avoid early turnovers and any stretch of consecutive turnovers, his
psyche will be much stronger. He doesn’t even need to score Lucas’ points, he just needs to run the break and set plays effectively. If both Green and Roe have monster games, it will take a lot of pressure off everyone else. They all have experience for sophmores but will feel the pressure too.
I hope they don’t all want it so bad that they screw up by too much effort, adrenalin etc.
They won’t be rested but they all have experience in big-time games which will help and
having TI as your coach has to be a huge benefit too.
Go Green, go white!
no clue
If both teams are at their best, MSU wins, even without Lucas. That seems to me blindingly obvious. The issue is always which MSU team will show up. In each big show down this year, the Spartans have been mediocre; either they have shot the ball poorly or they have coughed up the ball much too regularly, or both. They’ve seemed almost too ramped up.
I do think they match up well with Purdue, which does not rebound all that well, and is not a great shooting team. Particularly at home — Purdue relies on effort and physicality, which is harder to do away from home, where you get fewer calls.
Ultimately, I want to believe MSU wins, But I give up trying to predict which MSU team will show up. What has happened to Lucious’ confidence after the Illinois game? does he rebound and play well? Does Morgan show up and have the kind of signature game he is capable of? Does Allen make some shots? Does Summers? The only constant has been Green.
On a neutral or at their place, no.
At our place, maybe.
You really can’t overemphaisize the importance of home court in the Big 10.
Sure, home court is huge
But not having Lucas is…huger. Especially with how Lucious and Allen played against Illinois, and now they (hypothetically, without Lucas) are going to have to do it against Kramer. I could see it argued either way, but blindingly obvious? Meh.
Anyways, hopefully Lucas is able to go and be close to 100%.
Officiating is a factor as well.
Kramer isn’t officiated the same in all arenas, nor is he officiated the same by all officials. That’s a factor as well.
Wonder who we got tonight, on that note. If it’s Hightower for what feels like the sixth time in a row, I will not be amused.
There's nothing blindingly obvious in the Big 10...
other than the fact that Turner is the best player.
Digger Phelps meets Adorno
"It has become self-evident that nothing concerning the Big Ten is self-evident anymore, not its inner life, not its relation to the whole, not even its right to exist."
I haven't been around these parts long...
…but I’m pretty certain that’s the first Frankfort School reference I’ve seen. Huzzah!
by RobbingGormanThomas on Feb 9, 2010 1:18 PM CST up reply actions
at their best
yes, I do. if both teams are att heir best, I see MSU as deeper and more athletic. My point, of course was that this was a big if.
But, at their best,
Morgan at his best more than matches Hummel
Johnson is slightly better than Roe — the only match up advantage for Purdue, I think
If Johnson gets into foul trouble, Purdue has noone behind him. MSU can get good minutes out of Nix and Sherman
The guards are a wash
Purdue can’t guard both Green, Morgan and Roe at the same time; one of them poses a real match up problem. Morgan can guard anyone, on the other hand.
Kramer is a good defender but offers little on offense
And I have not mentioned Lucas…
Mmm...disagreed.
Hummel is far better than Raymar. E’Twaun is far better than Summers. I do agree with you that JJ is better than Roe.
Green/Allen/Lucious are better than Kramer/Barlow/Grant, though.
Yeah, I recognize that he's the primary option
But Hummel’s game log is far, far more consistent the Raymar’s. “At their best” is of misleading. “Most nights” it’s clear advantage Hummel at least on offense.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/gamelog?playerId=36149
Kinda scary, actually.
We're splitting hairs, but I'll play along.
Hummel is a better player than Morgan on the offensive end. Morgan is a superior defender, Hummel a better rebounder.
Moore is a superior player to Summers in all areas other than dunking the basketball and rebounding. As maddening as Summers has been, he’s a terrific rebounder.
I believe Green deserves his own category and is a potential nightmare for Purdue in terms of matchup. He’s too strong for JJ or Hummel to handle alone on the boards, and can drag JJ away from the basket if that’s how Purdue matches up. That said, officiating is a factor with Green just like it is for Kramer. If Eddie and Co. are whistle happy, Green could end up on the bench, which would be a huge advantage for Purdue.
Yeah, including Green in that second group was kind of unfair.
Lucas is the best player on either of these teams. Hummel, Johnson, and Moore are the very close second tier. Morgan, Summers, and Green are the next tier. After that, Allen, Roe have a slight advantage on Kramer, Jackson, and Barlow.
MSU has more good players than Purdue. But Purdue’s big three set things back pretty even.
Paranoia Level
Drop it down to 8 for the Izzone advantage. But I am with you… This game has me very, very worried.
Not sure about this one
We haven’t won at Breslin in 12 years. Sure, several of those teams were pretty bad, but that is a long streak. To have a shot at the title we have to win tonight or win at tOSU, where we have never won in their building.
We did end an 11 year losing streak at IU, but it is IU
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Feb 9, 2010 8:26 AM CST reply actions
That sounds roughly right
Purdue fan here, and my emotional feel is a close win—with Purdue getting defensive stops late on. Might be tough for Lucas to work his magic if he’s not 100%.
Emotionally thinking about a close win means, of course, you’d probably think your team would lose narrowly if your team wasn’t your team.
I think this game should be good for either team, though—a real sweet 16 or final 8 feel. And they’ll get to do it again in short order at Mackey.
Nice preview. I’ve enjoyed your stuff for a while. My paranoia level for this game is low, but maybe that’s just because I took care of some important stuff for myself, or maybe because a win @MSU would still feel like a steal.
by Beavis Beefcake on Feb 9, 2010 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
Rebounding
I think MSU’s rebounding ability will be a deciding factor in this game, especially if they go with a bigger lineup. Purdue has strugged with rebounding at times and MSU, of course, is dominant in that part of the game. Purdue’s rebounding problems this year were with taller guards; add Jackson into the mix and I think the problems will only increase.
Should be a good game.
But every time I tell myself that about an MSU/Purdue game, someone ends up winning by 15.
The lesser of evils?
http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf/2010/02/spartans_tom_izzo_chris_allen.html
Izzo said if someone besides Lucas and Korie Lucious plays point guard tonight against Purdue, he would be more likely to give additional minutes to walk-on Mike Kebler, who had two assists and no turnovers in five minutes at Illinois.
One might almost...
….have thought it was obvious that Chris Allen was a point guard disaster, despite the improvement he’s shown this year. I’m still a little irked that Izzo tried that, especially to start with. I’d rather have lived and died with KL2.
Good call
Heck, I’d give more minutes to Kebler than Lucious at the point, unless Lucious goes into the same “bring the ball up and then give it to Green to run the halfcourt” mode that he did at the end.
This is it!
Raymar and Delvon have to play big and offset Hummel/Johnson. Day-Day will be a real tough match up for the Boilers and just slow down Korie.
This game could be the springboard for the next run.
Hey, is that Kramer practicing his flops?
For what it's worth
Here is my preview over at Hammer & Rails. Enjoy!
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Fanshotting it to the front page now
Fight for The Only Colors: Green and White!
by KJ@theonlycolors on Feb 9, 2010 11:12 AM CST up reply actions
We're just anti-woofing.
It’s what sophisticated, thoughtful fans do. At least, until the game starts and we can finally yell at the television.
Of course, we Purdue fans can’t anti-woof as well as Michigan State fans…
…see what I did there?
by Beavis Beefcake on Feb 9, 2010 11:44 AM CST up reply actions
It's comforting to know that ya'll are as anxious as we are
It’s going to be a fun one to watch. Big Ten basketball at its finest.
Lord, beer me strength.
by doublegoldandblack on Feb 9, 2010 12:54 PM CST reply actions
Not sure how this game will go
Purdue has looked very good at times this year and not so good at times as well. Ditto for us. Who wins will depend partly on which version of each team shows up. If they show up with the team that lost to NW or just barely beat IU we will most likely win, unless we show up with the team that lost to Wisconsin or UNC.
If I were Painter I would scout that Illinois game carefully and mimic what they were doing with Davis – we kept losing him, and if they use Hummel that way and we lose him, it will be a long night. He is money from just about anywhere from the three point line in.
If we can manage to keep the TOs under control I like our chances. That is, of course, a big if. My hope is that Summers and Allen are both on and we can be a POT for a night. That would help keep the TOs down. I don’t want to concede the paint but with Johnson there clean shots will be fairly difficult to come by.
It is just a basketball game in February
I am on the verge of not continuing to read this blog. I have, for the most part, enjoyed reading the posts here but get frustrated when things turn negative or frantic just because we lose a couple of games. We have lost two games in a row for the first time in two years and have a difficult game in front of us tonight. We might win, we might lose….regardless, I have confidence that Izzo will have this team firing on all cylinders when it matters most….in MARCH!
Keep your spirits up Spartans!
As conceded above, this preview was definitely on the negative side
I’d be curious, though, if you can point to other sections of content/comments you think were excessively negative given the immediate circumstances.
Also, I love the NCAA Tournament as much as anyone—and I think playing without Lucas now could turn out to benefit us next month—but “a basketball game in February” can also be characterized as “one of only 9 remaining guaranteed basketball games left in the season.”
Fight for The Only Colors: Green and White!
by KJ@theonlycolors on Feb 9, 2010 1:58 PM CST up reply actions
It is only February
But it has big implications! It’s definitely not as important as a game in March, and I have a lot of respect for Izzo and know that MSU will play better come crunch time, but this a pretty big game in terms of conference standings and potential seeding in March. I think fans from both teams are being reasonable and I can see either team winning.
Good writeup
Our guys haven’t been shooting very well away from home. I think MSU wins at home.
Ever Grateful. Ever True.
only a game in February?
Western civilization hangs in the balance, actually.
you should subtract 3 from your fear/anxiety level
on account of the “Kebler effect.” He’s gonna light it up tonight. Go Meridian Township.

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