Game Thread: Spartans vs. Boilermakers
by KJ@theonlycolors on Feb 9, 2010 6:15 PM CST
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PrintPurdue Boilermakers at Michigan St. Spartans, Feb 9, 2010 8:00 PM CST
Alright, forget what that number-crunching ninny told you last night. The Boilermakers are coming to our house tonight. And we don't show our guests much hospitality.
I'm off to Breslin shortly. LVS and Pete are busy attending to their odd obsessions with "taking care of academic responsibilities so we can get jobs." So you kids are on your own for the game thread. Don't invite your friends over to get drunk while we're gone--unless we win.
If I have any fantastic on-site observations, I'll likely post them to Twitter.
Go Green. Go WHITE. Beat the Boilers.
P.S. Sounds like Mr. Lucas is definitely going give it a go:
MSU assistant Mark Montgomery says Kalin Lucas is playing, and looked like he had no doubt when I just asked
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Go State!
I’ve got an ample supply of Bell’s Porter and a snow day coming! I will not go to bed grumpy!
I second the snow day!
It’s great living on the east coast where cities don’t have plows!
You'd think they'd invest in a few
Given how they get at least one good storm every year (and about a dozen this year).
The snow totals they’re talking about on the east coast wouldn’t have even fazed people where I grew up (Minnesota). Two feet might be worth a day off … maybe.
We got 32 inches in 24 hours here in DC
I think that would shut just about any city down for a day or two. Plus we’re getting another foot tonight into tomorrow.
by TheCrestedHelm on Feb 9, 2010 8:04 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, that would do it
The upcoming storm, not so much.
We hit close to 40 inches in a single storm when I was six. That got us one day off. (Might have been two if it hadn’t been a Friday.) The looks I get from people in Texas when I mention that are quite comical.
Yeah, this new storm isn't that bad
but they haven’t plowed most of the side streets yet from the weekend storm, so it’s just piling more on there.
by TheCrestedHelm on Feb 9, 2010 8:13 PM CST up reply actions
No kidding
We are supposed to get 8 to 14 inches and they cancelled school for me and work for my girlfriend before any snow had fallen!
by Milton58 on Feb 9, 2010 8:07 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
They are quicker to pull the snow day trigger out here
I never remember them cancelling anything in Grand Rapids until after the snow had fallen.
by TheCrestedHelm on Feb 9, 2010 8:12 PM CST up reply actions
So we're all agreed?
Mike Kebler is 6’4"of superstar waiting to happen…
Well, I think we can all agree and say...
FINISH off Wisconsin at the Kohl Center, Illini! Up 4, 3 minutes left.
Woohooo
Bo Ryan such a whiny punk. Clean block by Tisdale.
HOLY CRAP
OSKEE WOW WOW ILL-INI GOOOOOO ILLINOIS
PP-TPW.
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by LVS on Feb 9, 2010 7:45 PM CST up reply actions
If they show the beginning of it
Do we really need to see the last four minutes of a 22-point pantsing of Tennessee?
Damn...
Blow-out gonna run late.. hope they switch.
Gotcha.
There’ll be quite an ovation when he comes off the bench.
PP-TPW.
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by LVS on Feb 9, 2010 8:05 PM CST up reply actions
Greetings, gentlemen
Let’s have a good one tonight. You’re welcome over at H&R as well.
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Thank you, sir.
You do the Lord’s work.
PP-TPW.
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by LVS on Feb 9, 2010 8:10 PM CST up reply actions
Man..
ESPN piss poor… no showing start of MSU so we can see a 20 point blowout?
espn360.com
It’s on, now!
PP-TPW.
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by LVS on Feb 9, 2010 8:12 PM CST up reply actions
I agree, although it looked like he got hacked on the arm
by TheCrestedHelm on Feb 9, 2010 8:18 PM CST up reply actions
Second one, yeah
Looked like there was definitely contact, and he was fading away so it seems unlikely that he initiated it.
Every single game...
he has to take at least one of those jump hooks that doesn’t even come close to the basket. Drives me nuts – he simply cannot make that shot.
Surprisingly high scoring so far
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Honestly
The D hasn’t been good lately. It’s scary
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All right, I'm heading home
Although, I’m reluctant to give up the sweet setup here at school, ha.
See you in a bit.
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Lucas doesn't seem too badly hampered by the ankle
If the speed with which he blew by the D there is any indication.
Don't know
He sprained his ankle against Illinois and hasn’t been himself of late. his best defensive play was a block in the end of the IU game. Other than that, pretty quiet
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Even so
Kramer is one of the biggest pests in the Big Ten. And I mean that as a compliment (at least, when we’re not playing him).
It sure seems like it
I thought we had the best help D in college basketball
by TheCrestedHelm on Feb 9, 2010 8:30 PM CST up reply actions
Thank you
That was just as obvious as Morgan’s, and for a moment I thought they were going to let it go.
Wonk is probably having a heart attack right now
Our rebound total sucks because Purdue won’t miss anything.
We're not getting it done on the offensive end
It’s been one and done for us. We need to get some second chances
by TheCrestedHelm on Feb 9, 2010 8:37 PM CST up reply actions
I think we need Allen to start shooting again
He’s been hot so far.
by TheCrestedHelm on Feb 9, 2010 8:38 PM CST up reply actions
You guys are great at that extra pass
I like it
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If we can start causing empty trips
Otherwise, it’s already too late
by TheCrestedHelm on Feb 9, 2010 8:46 PM CST up reply actions
They're shooting 65%
And it’s not because they’re just randomly catching fire. Our defense has been mediocre at best.
We're giving them layups on a regular basis
Easy to shoot 65% from 2 feet in.
by TheCrestedHelm on Feb 9, 2010 8:48 PM CST up reply actions
I putting the challenge in to Morgan and Summers, et. al
Start playing like this game means something to you.
Man...
MSU getting their asses handed to them. Shame that Raymar and Summers have apparently decided they don’t like playing good teams.
And we're not making shots, or rebounding particularly well
We’re at least avoiding turnovers, I guess.
I am kind of stunned, fellas
This was one of my predicted losses at the beginning of the year.
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No doubt about it;
imho; Purdue wants it more.
Say hello to your Big Ten Champions...
the Purdue Boilermakers. MSU doesn’t want any part of it apparently.
Hah...
and they foul the 3 point shooter… all sorts of awesome.
Fair call there
If it was a foul on E-’Twaun at the other end that was a foul
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Depressing...
MSU looking to be on a Texas-style skid. Wheels seem to be falling off this team.
can't agree with you any more
hope lucas gets healthy quickly
god... why leave hummel open..
are they tired already?
UNC, Wisconsin, Illinois, Purdue
All played better than they have or will play the rest of the year against MSU.
Give Purdue credit
But we aren’t playing defense worth a damn. I haven’t seen a team defend this badly since the post-Sampson-firing Hoosiers came to visit on Senior Day and gave up 105 or so.
Wow
Guys, I am honestly stunned. That was the best half of basketball we have played as a team all year.
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The second half against West Virginia might have been better
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To be honest, I agree.
I have never seen Purdue get the ball to the post so easily. Not even against Cal State Northridge.
Hitting the treys is a nice bonus.
Sooo....
Anyone else starting to feel like this team really isn’t very good? They’ve sqeeked by against mediocre teams.. beat the really bad teams.. and been embarassed by good teams.
I dunno
We pounded Wisconsin at home, pounded Illinois (before we lost interest after going up 25). Sometimes you just hit a bad stretch.
We did beat Wisconsin at home
and that was a reasonably convincing win. It seems like it happend last year at this point though.
by TheCrestedHelm on Feb 9, 2010 9:05 PM CST up reply actions
We lost 3 games in a row earlier this season, too. You guys will be fine.
Besides, this ones not over yet. It’s college basketball. And you’re at home. Anything can happen.
Agree, it's not over. Besides...
This is a tricky 3 game stretch. Can’t control the schedule.
by Beavis Beefcake on Feb 9, 2010 9:34 PM CST up reply actions
Besides
If I remember right, the ‘05 team didn’t look all that special in the regular season either. They did just fine in March.
Ummm.
‘05 team would have won the big ten if the Illini didn’t have the best season in their school’s history and almost make it through the season undefeated.
I thought that was the year we kept throwing away games with randomly awful FT shooting
I guess we looked pretty good as long as we managed not to be in a close game, and the FT shooting came around in the tournament.
Anyone saying that Izzo yelling and screaming is the solution..
is a moron. This team is way past that. There are serious tactical and structural problems that are on display.
Purdue's first half efficiency
146 according to SCACCHoops. Their live stats aren’t always 100% accurate but that seems about right.
Anyone else as depressed as I am about now?
Man.. thought this season was headed somewhere special… enthusiasm about at 0 now.
If we can't start defending, yes
Seriously, our defense looked atrocious against Illinois and again so far today.
I think the book is out on our D
They’ve all seen something on film and will keep exploiting it until we prove we can stop it.
by TheCrestedHelm on Feb 9, 2010 9:12 PM CST up reply actions
I'm almost kind of resigned at this point.
Everyone is playing the game of their life against us, and we’re a mess.
I'm reaching the
“Well, we’re not going to look that good, I suppose. Perhaps some March magic will strike the team” mode.
We lead in both offensive and defensive efficiency
those days appear to be long gone
by TheCrestedHelm on Feb 9, 2010 9:13 PM CST up reply actions
Well maybe it was a little longer than a week ago on O
but still, we were a 100th of a point behind the leader.
by TheCrestedHelm on Feb 9, 2010 9:16 PM CST up reply actions
At this point
It’s probably 3 straight mistakes by everyone. Absolutely nothing has gone right tonight.
Not sure what explains this
It’s not the shooting that bothers me so much – sometimes you just go cold. But fundamentally sound teams don’t forget how to play defense and rebound.
I'd be tempted to put Kebler, Dahlman, and Herzog in...
since the guys on the floor are punched out and seemingly down for the count
One of these two teams is winning the B10.
Evan Turner is good, but there is no doubt in my mind that these are the best two teams.
Heck, Penn State would do this to us the way we're playing tonight
I mean, they’re capable of making layups, right?
We play D like this against OSU
and Turner will get 50
by TheCrestedHelm on Feb 9, 2010 9:26 PM CST up reply actions
MSU having a Texas style fall...
Wheels have completely fallen off this team.
Except that with Texas it almost makes sense
Their abysmal FT shooting and lack of a coherent plan on offense (their best defenders are sophomore-Walton-level liabilities on offense) are catching up to them. With us, I don’t understand. We shouldn’t have completely forgotten how to play defense over the past week.
Izzo has a major job on his hands...
just getting this team to believe it can do anything correctly again.
We're winning the turnover battle
But you don’t win games when the opponents’ eFG% is north of 70 and you’re barely cracking 40.
Time to eat icecream...
at least it will cheer me up.
At home, 39 points with 14 minutes to go… atrocious offense with terrible defense.
I am sorry guys
That missed dunk abotu sums it up
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another sign of the times
by Lucious… missing 2 to 1 fastbreak
No time for fancy crap, Lucious
Just get the ball in, doesn’t have to look pretty.
Honestly, we look like we’re absolutely shellshocked. This keeps happening, and it shouldn’t.
I'm not sure he could do anything else at his height
It would have been blocked without the fancy stuff. He should have given it up earlier and let someone bigger take it to the rim.
by TheCrestedHelm on Feb 9, 2010 9:39 PM CST up reply actions
roe...
make that free throw…. roe roe roe roe roe roe roe
And I am officially having flashbacks to our OSU game
up 10 with four to play. We blew it.
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We're coming unglued
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Awful call there
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The defense has showed up, at least
Way under 1 PPP for Purdue this half. Unfortunately, it’s brought them down from a ludicrous 146 to a merely ridiculous 122.
Uh, Brent?
You do realize that you just called Lucas a “tough hunger”, right? (It’s hombre with an o, not hambre.)
KRAMER MOMENT!
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WHAT IN THE HELL IS SO FRICKING DIFFICULT!!!!!
They seem to understand it. They are down 8 fucking points and attacking the basket, but we’re timid. Sack up, guys!!!!!!!!!!
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Sorry for the outburst
Just frustrated
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Great job by MSU here
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I apologize again, fellas, for the outburst.
Too out of character for me. My fault
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Believe me, I understand
I’ve been known to throw my hat at the TV (okay, that only happened once, but I’m never going to live it down).
Drats...
Nice of them to make us think they had a chance before Lucious once again made an atrocious decision that is going to cost us a chance.
I guess refs think they gave us a chance to catch up
and they want to to whatever they want
Precipitated by a Lucious brain fart
As usual. I love the guy’s shooting touch, but he’s got to play smarter if he’s going to be a remotely effective PG.
Goodnight all...
Tired of watching this garbage.. 2 hours of my life i’ll never get back.
yep, frustrating 2 hours...
at least they are gone
Green has had an awful night
I’d trade his Illinois game for tonight. We’d have lost by about 50 in Champaign, but we’d be winning this one.
Nice comback...
hopefully they learned something!!! Still in the race for the title for now. Can’t listen to Musburger and Lavin anymore!
Really?
You’ve watched MSU the last 3 games and think they’re still in the race?
I try not to be one of those "gloom and doom" fans
But this losing streak has been really discouraging as a fan. Tough, tough to watch.
Sure, why not?
We didn’t win the first nine by accident, and there’s no way we lose all of the last three with a healthy Lucas. Won’t be easy – our margin for error is totally gone – but 5-1 is still possible and that would get us a share (unless you think Purdue or OSU is winning out, and I don’t). If we can remember how to defend – we weren’t anywhere near this bad at it earlier – we can get there.
Finally just got home.
Seems like an incredible performance by Purdue, and especially E’Twaun Moore.
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Yeah...
though honestly it just makes the game that much more disappointing… after fighting back they absolutely folded and fell apart with new found vigor.
Ran out of gas
Happens all the time to teams that have to make a huge comeback like that.
Don’t dig such a hole next time and it won’t be a problem.
not the 1st time this year
this is probably the 3rd or 4th game we’ve done this – started a comeback too late in the 2nd half, and just didn’t have the time to finish it, or ran out of gas. sucks
Second, by my count
UNC, yes. Florida, didn’t get to see it but I don’t think we fell that far behind. Texas, we got there but then Lucious did what he does best. Wisconsin, was a full on whipping. Illinois, we got there but left McCamey all alone at the wrong time.
Lucas will be at full strength when you guys come to WL
Spartans have a legit chance to win there. This thing isn’t over yet. It’s still wide open.
We didn't suck in the second half
That’s something.
by TheCrestedHelm on Feb 9, 2010 10:20 PM CST up reply actions
WOOOOOOOOOHOOOOO AHAHAHAH AYAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
This is like the best day of my life in the last 6 months. Because of sports. Is that okay?
Ooops wrong blog.
Didn’t mean to rub it in. You guys showed up in the second half, you will finish the season strong.
That's why you don't want to get down by 18
It takes a lot of energy to come back.
by TheCrestedHelm on Feb 9, 2010 10:21 PM CST up reply actions
Great game, everyone
Amazing fight in your team. I thought it was safe at 18 and you had it to three in no time.
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Wouldn't quite call it great...
Goodluck to Purdue rest of the way – clearly the class of the conference.
i really meant no animosity
maybe this wasn’t the best time…
by Joe Kutsunis on Feb 9, 2010 10:27 PM CST up reply actions
Y'know, he had a rough three-game streak recently
But for the most part, Chris Allen has showed up this season. I respect that guy.
+1...
Chris Allen been a bright spot lately. Only player with toughness on this team (aside from Green i guess) lately. He’s been playing like he actually cares if they win or not.
oh come on
that isn’t what anybody would be saying 10 games ago. the guy had a god game, no reason to say that he is the only one who cares.
If the others do (and I think they do)
I wish they’d start playing like it. Until that late run tonight, it looked like we mailed in about five consecutive games.
Well I'd say Lucas has shown some toughness as well
But Allen is at least giving 100% on both ends of the floor. Not sure about others.
by TheCrestedHelm on Feb 9, 2010 10:30 PM CST up reply actions
Definitely
Allen has taken over Walton’s “underappreciated guard” spot, if not in exactly the same role (more of a bomber than a defensive god, though he’s been pretty solid there too).
Not sure he'll ever be Travis Walton on D
but he shoots better
by TheCrestedHelm on Feb 9, 2010 10:32 PM CST up reply actions
No offense to Walton, but shooting better than him isn't exactly hard to do
Unless we’re talking about USC-game Walton.
He plays like he gets it
And now that his confidence is back on offense, he’s playing aggressive and looking for the ball to get open and shoot. Like I said, no one is on every night but he’s becoming one of those players I don’t worry about. And really, Green and Lucas are the only two right now.
(Yes, Green had a bad night but everyone does sometimes).
What happened?
Where was durrell summers? Did he only play 5 minutes? did he get hurt? he only took 2 fg’s
Haven't heard anything about an injury
but I don’t know why his minutes disappeared.
by TheCrestedHelm on Feb 9, 2010 10:33 PM CST up reply actions
My guess..
lack of defense, offense, and rebounding.
he has been such a solid defensive rebounder
i mean, ,is it effort on defense or cluelessness. I don’t know if pulling him for the game is a good idea. we really lost a scoring threat there
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