The Tank Runs Dry
So, as far as ways of dealing with season-ending Michigan State basketball losses, I highly recommend spending a gorgeous spring day in Indianapolis as the way to go. White River State Park, the NCAA's Final Four Dribble event for kids, Bracket Town, Buca Di Beppo. Life was good today.
Then I sat down in front of my laptop for the first time in 72 hours. And, you know, I really don't feel that much worse. Let's dive into this thing.
First off, I'm going to skip right past the part about the various officiating-related events that might have been the difference in the Spartans advancing instead of going home. Those were covered by all of you in sufficient detail last night. Many of us are statistical types. Statistics say that winning big against bad teams is a better predictor of success than winning close against good teams. MSU came into this game having won four straight close games against good teams. It's hard to get a coin to flip the same way 5 straight times. MSU benefited from some officiating breaks in a fair number of games this year. I'm glad the game in which the breaks went against us was this one and not one of the earlier ones.
The cumulative results of the two teams' performances in the context of how the game was officiated looked like this:
On offense, the equation was the one I was worried about: too many turnovers, not enough offensive rebounds. In the first half, I was relieved that Butler's man-to-man defense didn't look quite as ferocious as had been advertised. They seemed content to stay back and let MSU run its offense on the perimeter. Korie Lucious and Durrell Summers hit some jumpshots, and MSU looked like they might win fairly comfortably. After closing back to a tie with a late first-half run, though, the Bulldogs turned on the defensive intensity in the second half. Open jumpshots were denied, and the defense collapsed on any Spartan who tried to penetrate into the defense, creating a flurry of MSU turnovers.
Meanwhile, the Butler rebounders were able to hold off the MSU big men on the offensive glass, holding the Spartans to their second lowest offensive rebounding percentage of the season. (The lowest percentage was against Northern Iowa, in another game that featured a very good defensive rebounding foe. A key factor in all four of the most recent games has been Draymond Green's increased role as an offensive playmaker in Kalin Lucas' absence; Green has not recorded a single offensive rebound in any of the four games, as he's been drawn outside on offense more and been less free to crash the glass when other players shoot the ball.) Gordon Hayward pulled down 9 rebounds, all on the defensive end, to lead the Bulldog defensive rebounding bulwark.
Despite shooting reasonably well from the field (45.1% on 2-pointers and 36.4% on 3-pointers), MSU was only able to get to 50 points in 59 possessions. A much less efficient 50.0% shooting performance from the free throw line explains 3-4 points in that gap between points and possessions.
Meanwhile, the winning team prevailed with a grotesque-looking .357/.238/.708 shooting line, taking advantage of 7 additional field goal attempts and 10 additional free throw attempts. The Spartan defense was fantastic down the stretch (10+ minute FG-less drought for Butler). Hayward and Shelvin Mack were the only two Bulldogs to exceed 6 points. Those two guys made enough individual plays (with Butler only recording 5 assists on 15 made field goals) to keep Butler just ahead of MSU throughout the second half. (It is me, or was that the biggest 4-point deficit MSU has ever faced?).
Going into the game, I said that at least 3 of MSU's 4 remaining healthy offensive options had to play well. And, for the most part, that happened. Durrell Summers scored 14 points on 12 FGA and pulled down 10 rebounds. Korie Lucious had 12 points on 3-6 three point shooting to go with 4 assists. Draymond Green put up 12 points and 6 rebounds and nearly willed the team to the win at the end despite having his jumpshot go missing.
But each of those guys also had one major weakness crop up as the game went on: Summers' inability to get open late in the game, Lucious' 5 turnovers, Green's 4 missed free throws. And the fourth major option, Raymar Morgan, had just about everything go wrong. In his final game as a Spartan, Morgan was limited to 4 points on 2-7 FG shooting in just 23 minutes. Morgan's second foul, which came less than 6 minutes into the game was a key moment; he (understandably) went after a loose ball on what looked like a 50/50 opportunity but was just a fraction of a second late and got called for it.
That's probably my #1 disappointment with the game--that Morgan's Michigan State career ended in that fashion. Let's not forget that, if Morgan doesn't play the way he's played over the last 5 weeks, there'd be no new banners hanging from the Breslin rafters come this November.
Butler also did a very good job denying scoring opportunities to Tom Izzo's cast of role players. Outside of the four players referenced above and Delvon Roe (4 points on 2-5 shooting), there were exactly three field goal attempts by Spartan players in the game. Chris Allen (zero points, zero assists, 3 turnovers) was unable to play the wild card role I'd hoped for, as his arch problem continued to prevent him from finding a rhythm. Austin Thornton and Mike Kebler played great defense, but couldn't knock down the single open look each of them saw on offense. This was not a Derrick Nix-friendly match-up. Garrick Sherman (4 points) was the lone supporting player to score in the game for MSU.
In the end, there just wasn't quite enough left In Tom Izzo's arsenal to pull this one out. With only one win in the last four MSU Final Four appearances, there's a certain level of angst, I think, about not getting closer to winning that third Spartan national championship. I share it. But I really think this is much more a case of being happy with how far you came than being upset about coming up short.
In 5 NCAA Tournament games, MSU scored just 11 more points than its opponents. That's made for a gutsy, thrilling, and memorable run. But it's not the stuff national championships are made of. Pulling out last night's game and taking a shot at the Blue Devils would have been fantastic, but it would also have been a completely different animal than the 5 games that preceded it--going up against a #1 seed that's very tough to game plan for (smart offensive decision makers; aggressive man-to-man defense).
I'm not saying there are any guarantees about the future. And I'm not saying we should rest contently on the past. I'm saying enjoy the moments. And there were some great Spartan moments these past few weeks.
P.S. I don't care what all of you say, I'll be rooting for Butler tomorrow night from the 500-level of Lucas Oil Stadium. Three reasons:
1) I have a genetic disposition toward rooting for underdogs (that can't even be overcome by the underdogs throwing out over-the-top, good-vs.-evil-type proclamations about a particular game's outcome).
2) To a person, every Butler fan I've met this weekend has been insanely nice. And I don't really care about the bandwagon-fan phenomenon. That happens everywhere--a lot of green and white paraphernalia springs up in the greater Lansing area every March.
3) I feel compelled to root against any team still ahead of us in the all-time-great-college-basketball-program pecking order.
Go, Dawgs!
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It's time to root for the bad guy.
Cinderella’s a fairy tale. Fairy tales aren’t real.
The Blue Devils will serve as the ultimate cold water bucket of reality.
Devils by 20. And I will enjoy it.
Underdogs annoy me. Particularly ones that shouldn’t be there.
Hope you realize that if MSU made it...
…every other blog in the world would have posted something very close to what you have posted regarding this particular MSU team in it’s particular state.
It's tired. It's a tired story.
As tired as Duke is Evil Empire stuff. 10-15 years ago, sure. Duke’s just another really good team now, like Syracuse or UCLA or any other number of teams.
If college basketball has an Evil Empire, it’s North Carolina.
Wow.
No matter what you think of K, he’s never gone after a 19 year old kid in his ghostwritten autobiography. When Ol’ Roy pulled that on Roe this year, he cemented his Evil Emperor status for life.
Completely and totally devoid of class, or perspective, as Huckleberry Hound proved throughout the season.
Ol’ Roy is every bit as bad as K, or worse.
You'd think K had run over a bunch of kids with a bus.
It’s the most overplayed old bit in college basketball. Most people can’t even tell you why they hate Duke anymore. It’s just what you’re supposed to do.
I still think it's because of the Dime-Store-Dukies people run into across the country
No one likes a casual fan giving them crap about how great a school is that they didn’t attend.
Light a man a fire, he'll stay warm for a day.
Light a man afire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
Perhaps it was watching them eviscerate UNC the last time
but they won me over. I enjoyed watching them and thought they looked like a solid team. Hence, their position at the end of my bracket’s rainbow.
Great point
I completely forgot why I hate them. From style of play (chuck-an-duck, flopping, whining) to stealing recruits from a former assistant to the absurd media lovefest that continually overhyped a team as if they played in the Big East. But the worst are the fans, which I believe is where this all started.
Could you imagine a comment like this coming from a Spartan alum?
Horrible, horrible, horrible fanbase. Indicative of their Coach and style of play.
For sure, Roy is far from an angel. But he’s no K.
Henderson foul on Hansbrough
A coach that defends this kind of foul with a postgame questioning why Hansbrough was still on the floor.
Just saying. Historically, Duke is BEYOND easy to hate. Call it a “tired” story if you want. It’s a justified response, IMO.
I can give you a list of reasons to hate UNC that's just as long...
and Vitale honks UNC every bit as much as he does Duke.
I don’t know why UNC gets a free pass. Jordan, I suppose. Roy kicked someone out of the Dean Dome this year for yelling at his player to NOT miss a free throw.
Guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree. Again, Duke hate is the oldest bit in college basketball. Guess it will get a lot worse at 11:30 PM this evening.
Shoot
I’d like to hear more reasons. I am quite disappointed in Roy’s comments in his book. Completely inappropriate. And having someone thrown out of the Dean Dome for being intoxicated and cheering for the opposing team is absurd as well. Again, I will not defend it.
Still… A far cry from the dirty, dirty play of Duke and the questionable character of K. It’s the oldest bit because it’s soooo true.
Please… Read those links and watch the youtube clip and then prove me wrong on this one.
Henderson's was a cheap shot.
Other than that and the 18 year old Laettner stomp that no one can get over, when has Duke played dirty? They flop, sure. But I don’t remember them being an overly dirty or violent team by any means.
I’ll get some of Ol’ Roy’s finest moments as a phony ready for you.
Why are you arguing over this?
It’s not an either/or thing — to hell with both of them.
by Yinka Double Dare on Apr 5, 2010 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions
The sun did come up
I have some nasty thoughts about the game and they’re not all related to officiating but in all honesty, that was a game MSU shouldn’t have even been playing. The fact that they did is a real testament to the coaches, managers and players. So they didn’t win, let’s move on. I didn’t expect much from this year’s team based on the additions and subtractions so ending in the FF is a great achievement and now the addition/subtraction scale has been tipped although Raymar will be missed and I have a feeling Zeke will be too. We should be 2 weeks into the offseason right now but old habits are hard to break and Final Fours is a habit around here. Lets get a banner and a net next April!
Play 40
Really KJ?
I have a hard time believing you are in Indy with all the bull shit that has transpired the last couple of days. You are really going to root for Butler? I have never seen such a low class, ignorant fan base in my entire life. I know, I know, that 90% of the “Butler” fans are just Indy natives. Well, that makes me hope Crean fails at IU. Those fans don’t deserve a winner. I know I wasn’t alone in my experience. Many people have said what a joke it was. This was my 5th Final Four and I have never been subjected to such garbage. At least UNC, WVA, UCONN, AZ, Duke, ILL, OSU and Louisville fans are respectful. I have had a great time hanging out with people from each fan base. I wish nothing but bad basketball fortunes for IU and PU fans. (I really respect BU as a basketball team. They play really hard and find ways to win.)
Why Purdue?
Perhaps we’re dealing with the good segment of their fan base, but the folks over at H&R are just fine.
You and I must have been hanging out in very different places
Fight for The Only Colors: Green and White!
by KJ@theonlycolors on Apr 5, 2010 8:07 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Much has been made about how hard Butler plays.
And that’s true. But the damn holding, slapping, and grabbing, and tackling, really left a bad taste in my mouth.
I can’t root for them just like I can’t root for Wisconsin. They play defense the same way.
Our physical play....
pales in comparison to what it was between 1999 and 2005.
We’re physical under the bucket, but we don’t hold and slap on the perimeter like that. We just don’t.
Two pics that will live in infamy
The Gordon arm slap and the Delvon Roe bear hug tell the story of the night.
Part of the game
Dylan posted the same kind of pics of MSU players holding Harris earlier this season.
If things were reversed, we would have defended the no-call at the end (as we did several times this year). The fact Hayward was as blunt about the fact he fouled him is a mark in his favor IMO.
Fight for The Only Colors: Green and White!
by KJ@theonlycolors on Apr 5, 2010 8:12 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Absolutely
It’d be just absurd hypocrisy to want the call here even if I have to fight off the urge. Honestly, Summers should have pulled the trigger at :14 and nailed it or put Green in position for an O-board. That was not our best execution. Still sucks.
We didn’t do much to win the game despite the refs. It was there, we just didn’t take it.
Want to feel better about the loss? Watch the replay of Heyward’s last basket. Watch Butler players hustle and stay alert while four Spartans passively watch someone go out of bounds. Not trying to knock MSU there; those plays happen, but that was the play of the game and, for that moment at least, Butler earned it.
Did the game convince me that the winner was the night-in-and-night-out better team? No, but neither did the Maryland or Tennessee game. Different night, different court, different refs (yes), different result perhaps. Didn’t happen.
I feel better today, almost good enough to jump back on the bandwagon that I’ve been on for seven years. We’ll see. I could still use some new MSU t-shirts.
Don't disagree with you that Summers should have taken the open look
But Izzo would have gone berzerk if Summers had taken a 3 down 1 when Izzo had called for the ball to go down low.
Fight for The Only Colors: Green and White!
by KJ@theonlycolors on Apr 5, 2010 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Word, but I will continue to live in two fantasy worlds
In the first, Summers nails the shot to euphoria and Heyward comes up short on a long game winning three attempt.
In the second (my favorite), Summers misses short and Green grabs the rebound. After a pump fake, he goes up over Heyward and knocks it home for a Spartan V!
Izzo would have forgiven both. And really, isn’t that a “take your best look regardless” situation?
Difference
The difference is that Dylan failed to post picks of Sims (I’m assuming you meant Sims not Harris) blatantly pushing off on ’rell right before the hold. It was a good no call. On Saturday, there were two horrible no calls within the last 6 seconds of the game. There is a difference between body contact and the hammering of a forearm (Minny). There is a difference between body contact and a bear hug on a game deciding free throw.
Pic are here:
http://www.umhoops.com/2010/03/05/game-30-michigan-at-michigan-state-preview/
The way college basketball is played today, the sport is impossible to officiate in a 100% equitable manner. You have to deal with it the nights things skew to the other team’s benefit.
I will say it would have been nice if Roe could have found a way to emphasize to the refs he was being bear-hugged. Tough to do with less than 2 seconds to work with, though.
I said I wasn’t going to talk about officiating! :)
Fight for The Only Colors: Green and White!
by KJ@theonlycolors on Apr 5, 2010 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions
The amazing thing
About the pic of the final free throw is how close Summers comes to getting that board. I had to go back to the tape to look at it to be sure but he came charging in from above the three point line on the opposite side of the lane. A designed play, certainly, but he is some athlete.
the problem with the first picture is even though Hayward hit his arm, Green created all of the contact and Hayward move enough to make it look super obvious to the Refs that Green initiated and caused the contact. Everyone here has looked to an official and had him say “you caused the contact” that foul is never called, especially at the end of a game.
Many Thanks
To KJ, LVS, Pete and any other regular contributor to The Only Colors that I’m inadvertently omitting, thanks for making this one of the best seasons of Spartan Basketball. I wasn’t up on SB Nation before this year and I see what I’ve been missing. It’s going to be some long weeks without your game previews and recaps which were must reads for this out of state fan residing in the hometown of a rival B10 school. You guys + Rexrode=East Lansing as far as I’m concerned. I can only hope that we’ll be fortunate enough to get some offseason nuggets although I fear you’ll inevitably move on to football like the rest of the American sports media. If so, I’ll be Gone Til November(Spartan hoops only for me). In the meantime, I’ll search for ways to work my new favorite phrase, Tempo Free, into everyday conversation. Thanks for the info.
Play 40
same here
Great Blog. Thanks and keep it up!
Thank you, sir
I’m your resident 12-months-per-year basketball blogger (although I did briefly get sucked into footballmania there last year).
Fight for The Only Colors: Green and White!
by KJ@theonlycolors on Apr 5, 2010 8:25 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
The idea would have made me gag on Saturday afternoon
but I’ll be rooting for Duke. My friends in Indy have been telling me they’ve received incredible respect and such from Blue Devil fans.
Light a man a fire, he'll stay warm for a day.
Light a man afire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
Seer
They aren’t lying. Duke fans were awesome. They were nothing but class from Friday till Sunday. I hope Coach K wins another one.
I believe it
I think a lot of the Duke hate comes from reputation that the team flops (the Paulus era) as well as a large national non-alumni fan base. It’s the guys who aren’t smart enough to walk on Duke’s campus but rock that D all over the place that bug me. I have no problem believing real Dukies are class.
Light a man a fire, he'll stay warm for a day.
Light a man afire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
I don't
Must have been a small sample size. Spend some time in Durham or Raleigh. Trust me… “class” will be the last word that comes to mind when you think of Duke fans.
Go Butler.
do I have to root for either one?
I can’t root for Duke. Not with their 8 McDs, their republican corporate shill of a coach, and their entitled students. This team does not seem so bad. Scheyer is a very smart player and is fun to watch. Singler seems to have real heart. but Coach K on the sidelines endlessly bullying the refs, surrounded by his fox terrier assistants, and the endless hyping by the commentators. I can’t root for Duke — In the same way that when one watches “Star Wars” one does not root for the Empire…
Normally I would root for Butler. But it’s hard to root for the team that eliminated MSU, particularly in these circumstances.
In sum, the off season started for me yesterday.
I'll buy that
+1 on the Duke commentary
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Apr 5, 2010 8:27 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
It will be interesting to see how the Final is officiated
I don’t think the officiating cost us the game, but I will say the calls were slanted in the Butler direction, and this is not the first game that has been the case. I remember remarking to my girlfriend during the Butler-K State game that, despite the fact that I was rooting for Butler, it seemed like K State was getting hosed by the refs. Generally I think the team I’m rooting for is getting hosed, but in that game it seemed pretty obvious that the team I was rooting against was getting screwed. I guess my point is that even to an impartial observer, Butler seemed to be getting the benefit of the doubt.
Given Duke’s reputation for getting ref favoritism, this game will feature the unstoppable force of Duke’s reputation for “never fouling” with Butler’s reputation for “getting fouled on every play”. There will either be a call made on every trip down the floor in this game, or maybe the refs will swallow their whistles because neither team ever fouls.
Basically, poor shooting from the free throw line, and a couple of close in missed shots, cost us this game. I thought the refereeing was a little biased in their favor (especially when it came to a couple of calls on Green and a couple of no-calls on him) but the bottom line is you have to shoot better than 50% from the free throw line, and make layups. If we had hit one gimme we missed and one more free throw we would have won. Plus it really grates that we lost the offensive rebounding battle, but I chalk that up to Green having to spend more time on the perimeter, Morgan being in foul trouble for much of the game, and Roe being less than 100%.
That’s not to take anything away from this team’s accomplishments this year. We hung two banners and made a final four run with our best player sitting on the bench for most of the NCAA tournament. This was a fantastic year, and the team reached its potential and then some, given the injury situation. Kudos to our players – they played great. This was a fantastically entertaining run and my hat is off to them for the heart, grit, and determination they showed this year.
I think alot of this is because Butler doesn’t whine to the officials constantly, whenever I was on teams that had a whining player on them, calls never seemed to go our way. When our team just played and didn’t whine, we got the refs “on our side” just seemed to be the human factor at play
You should have seen the look on Howard's face ...
… when he bowling-balled into a completely stationary Morgan, flailed about, and flung up a prayer and didn’t get the call.
In any case, I’ve seen the opposite with regard to whining and its effect on the refs. Bitch out the refs once or twice early, you’ll get T’d up and you’ll get every call the rest of the way.
Whining about fouls
It is hilarious to hear MSU fans to whine about fouls. MSU has played some of the most “physical” basketball I’ve ever seen over the past few years. You can’t play like that and expect refs to always adjust the way they call the game to permit that style of play. It’s just not realistic. MSU’s"physical" play toes a fine line between fouling on basically every possession and just being tough. Personally, even as UM fan, I like that style of play but hate to play against it.
Tons of respect for Izzo, but Draymond Green is the biggest tool ever. That lower lip thing he does is unbelievably obnoxious.
That said, karma is a biatch and I’m glad MSU lost:
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/710/horeshit.jpg
by juanathon.guillermo on Apr 5, 2010 9:48 AM CDT reply actions
Meh
I’m pretty confident I’ll be on this Earth for at least another six decades. I’m pretty confident MSU will be back in its place long before that time expires.
by juanathon.guillermo on Apr 5, 2010 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Meh
That no call happened long before UM’s post-season chances were shot. Check a calendar. Granted, they probably wouldn’t have made it to the Big Dance regardless, but thought I’d poke a hole in your pathetic attempt at an insult.
And for what it’s worth, you utterly failed in your initial reply to respond to the substance of my first comment. Try being objective basketball fan instead of a Spartan slappy.
by juanathon.guillermo on Apr 5, 2010 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Thoughtful
Wow, that was a thoughtful reply. Do we really want to go there? Honestly? You can’t even reply to the comment with half an ounce of intelligence?
by juanathon.guillermo on Apr 5, 2010 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Because you’re sooo above that, MSU having a good basketball program and all. After all, UM is no competition to you in anything. Scoff.
Get over yourself.
by juanathon.guillermo on Apr 5, 2010 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't go to UM websites to throw bombs after they lose a big game.
I’m not going to engage in a discussion with those who do that to us.
?
I didn’t really do that. Read my post about physical play. Thoughts?
by juanathon.guillermo on Apr 5, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
As I said above...
MSU’s physicality has been curtailed, either by design or by personnel issues, since 2005. Their physicality is still there under the basket and on rebounding. Teams like Purdue, Wisconsin, and Butler are far more physical on perimeter defense, with hand-checking and flat out body-checking on traps.
There are exceptions, Walton being the primary one. But anyone saying MSU’s perimeter defense is as grab-hold-clutch-slap-flop as Wisconsin or Purdue or Butler is not watching the games. They’re living in 2001.
I didn’t pay much attention in 2001, but I can say that, even if they’re less physical than they were then, they’re still pretty darn physical now. And, sure, Butler was giving it back to them. But my point is that when the game is taken to that level of physical play, it’s just unrealistic to think that (a) a ref should even allow it from the start and (b) that refs are going to be able to call those types of games well. When it gets that physical, it’s hard to distinguish calls. The refs seem content, far too often, to let MSU dictate the level of physicality in the game. The bar starts high from the get go, and I don’t think that’s fair to opposing teams when almost all other games have a lower foul-call-threshold.
Honestly, I wish UM would play more D like that. But from a fan standpoint, I can see people wanting to get rid of Izzo-D, just like they did in hockey when people would just latch onto Federov. I think the Butler-MSU game is a perfect example of the nasty play/reffing that happens when you allow too much “Big10 D” to be played.
by juanathon.guillermo on Apr 5, 2010 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions
It's certainly a valid point.
But MSU is not the gold standard for physicality anymore. Even Duke plays really physical defense now, and the Big East actually looks like football most of the time.
Unfortunately for MSU, they have been saddled with that reputation, and it does hurt them in certain games with certain officials. Izzo himself will say (and has said) that his teams aren’t as physical as they once were, especially in the backcourt.
I refuse to watch the title game......
….too many white guys on the court.
But seriously, I’ll be at opening day Royals vs. Tigers. Greinke vs. Verlander. Beer.
Life is still good.
Go Green!
Draymond's Free Throw Line Comments
have him now as my favorite Spartan (And I’m 100% Wolverine), but it was hilarious to see him say “i helped you’re dumb a%%” while at the line
A few thoughts to add
If we had made a few more free throws and a couple of layups we may have won the game, but still we may have lost. It is impossible to know. The ensuing plays may not have turned out the same way had the score and situation been different. To assume they would have is an error that is constantly made when talking about sports.
I was pleasantly delighted with the run this team made at the end. I was waiting all season for them to gel as a team. I believe they walk away from this Final Four a more cohesive team with a knowledge and desire to make themselves better over the summer. I’m pretty sure Green will be looking to drop a few pounds and improve his jump shot. I think Sherman has a big upside. Hopefully he add some muscle to his frame. I look forward to seeing what a healthy Roe can add. Lucious should be agreat spark off the bench next year, assuming Kalin stays. And i’m excited to see what the new guys bring.
The cupboard is pretty full for next year. Getting back to a Final Four isn’t easy, but the season is more than the Final Four to me. At times it was frustrating to watch this year’s team underperform. Next year I envision a team that plays smart, with passion and a unrelenting physicalness, that puts away opponents when they are on the ropes, and that minimizes distractions. That would be a joy to watch.
As far as next year
If everyone returns, I see the bar firmly set at a national championship. I know that is extremely high, but where to go from here. High expectations – but that’s where we are, and it is not a bad place to be.
luttez pour les seuls couleurs, vert et blanc
by vert_et_blanc on Apr 5, 2010 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
If Payne can be a legit post threat
than it’ll be championship or bust (also assumes summers stays, which he should)
by Maceo Baston on Apr 5, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Much depends on Summers.
If he stays, we’re a legit threat for the whole thing.
If he goes, that’s two major scorers and rebounders we have to replace, and that will be difficult. Without Summers, we’re a cut below Purdue, Duke, and the other major contenders.
All right, I'm sick and tired of hearing about the officiating.
It didn’t go exactly the way we wanted it to go. Our guys also missed an embarrassing number of free throws, couldn’t convert layups, and clanked almost every second-half jumpshot. The officiating ultimately isn’t the issue; this game was ours to win, but we didn’t make the offensive plays. That’s that.
PP-TPW.
The Only Colors
Yeah...
but Butler made .. what… 3 baskets in the second half? MSU was embarrassing – but Butler didn’t do anything to deserve it either. If Butler played well AND the officials were screwing over MSU — fine.. don’t blame the refs… but Butler got bailed out big time. Was there even a single 1 when MSU scored in that game? Because I don’t remember one and I remember a lot of contact whenever MSU went inside with the ball. I agree with you that it is also frustrating to know that MSU had opportunity after opportunity to pull away and put that away – but got in their own way. Butler didn’t cause MSU to miss 8 free throws. Half of the turnovers felt like they were MSU’s own doing (Lucious forgetting how to walkdribble at the same time, Roe trying to feed Green in the post when he was double-teamed by guys who were taller than him, etc).
I do disagree strongly on one key point
That offensive rebound, save, pass, and finish by Heyward was a helluva play. Product of pure alertness and hustle. It’s even more impressive in the replay. That’s part of the bitterness. Butler made one play, one great play, and that may have been the difference. Can’t take that away from them.
I’m getting better. All the time. A little better.
Many of our turnovers
seemed to be of the self inflicted variety. I don’t mind so much the ones where we drove the lane and they slapped at the ball and came up with it, but we were really trying to force some passes that were just not there at times – those are the ones that drive me nuts.
Butler played very well and I’ll be pulling for them tonight. I don’t think they’ll win, but I will be pulling for them. Their D really impressed me and they have some really good players. I chalk this loss up to playing a single elimination tournament with too fine a margin for error – you can’t take the game down to the final shot every time and expect to walk away a winner every time. I’m not sure either team outplayed the other but basically we let the ending be a coin flip and this time it didn’t land our way. Given our injury situation, I can’t be too disappointed.
by TheCrestedHelm on Apr 5, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions
We were bad.
The officials were also bad. Our play shouldn’t take them off the hook for their performance.
It’s not why we lost. But it’s still part of the game, and is fair game for discussion.
You will not see that crew work a Final Four any time in the near future.

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