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Big Ten(12) Divisions: Keep it Simple, Stupid

File under "Other things that happened last week."

Topics I have blogged about over the last 9 days:

  • Tom Izzo and the Cleveland Cavaliers (10 posts)
  • The World Cup (1 post)

If Tom Izzo can focus on other things while this process continues to (not) play out, so can I.

So let's talk about that other minor development in the world of college athletics: There's a new kid on the block.  Welcome to the Nebraska Cornhuskers.  Jim Delany reeled in one of the three schools with a big enough football brand to make one-and-done expansion worthwhile.  And that looks like it may be the final product here.  With Texas staying put in the Big 12(Ten), the Big Ten would really have to go all out to break up the Big East and force Notre Dame's hand to create an economically-productive 14- or 16-team scenario.

An even dozen appears to be the state of the near-future world.  So, on to the implementation stuff.  What about divisions?

Here are the criteria Jim Delaney has laid out for constructing divisions:

1. Competitive fairness 2. Rivalries 3. Geography.

Star-divide

Doc Saturday interprets thusly:

1. Splitting up Ohio State, Penn State and Michigan, the three programs responsible for eight straight conference championships/automatic BCS berths and four of seven at-large BCS bids since 2002; and
2. Preserving the prominence of the Ohio State-Michigan game in the regular-season finale.

Mathematically, those things add up to "Move Penn State, the easternmost school in the conference, by a wide margin, to the western division."

But is that really the most efficient arrangement?  Let's step back and build the divisions using Delany's three criteria, but applied in reverse order.  We'll then see how the resulting divisional alignment stacks up using Delany's order (I'll confess to having already played this out in my head; I think it's gonna work).

So, East/West divisions based on simple geography:

WESTEAST
Illinois Indiana
Iowa Michigan
Minnesota Michigan St
Nebraska Ohio St
Northwestern Penn St
Wisconsin Purdue

 

Adding a team on the western front, rather than the eastern front, makes the geographic split very simple: The Illinois-Indiana border is your (vertical) Mason-Dixon line.

How about maintaining natural rivalries?  Well the current protected rivalries all occur within three subsets of the existing 11 Big Ten teams:

  • Iowa/Minnesota/Wisconsin (with Nebraska becoming a natural fourth in this block)
  • Illinois/Indiana/Northwestern/Purdue
  • Michigan/Michigan State/Ohio State/Penn State

Any divisional alignment is going to break up one of those blocks of four teams into two pairs.  It might as well be the block of four Illinois/Indiana teams.  The Illinois-Indiana rivalry is a bit of a big deal, I think, but of course they're also the two weakest football programs in the league right now.  They'll live.  The in-state rivalries in both states would be maintained.

OK, on to competitive fairness.  The table below shows annual Sagarin rankings (to allow comparisons with Nebraska) for each Big Ten team over the last decade, along with three different measures of a mean ranking: simple 5-year average, simple 10-year average, 10-year average with the most recent year weighted at twice the level of the first year in the decade (with proportional weights in between).

Team20002001200220032004200520062007200820095-Yr Avg10-Yr AvgWtd 10-Yr
Ohio St 21 35 3 11 21 3 4 11 14 6 7.6 12.9 11.9
Penn St 71 44 16 71 63 4 18 26 8 10 13.2 33.1 29.5
Nebraska 4 5 41 23 68 24 30 61 23 14 30.4 29.3 30.4
Wisconsin 24 53 32 38 27 14 9 36 61 23 28.6 31.7 31.6
Iowa 76 31 8 9 12 26 51 79 22 9 37.4 32.3 31.7
Michigan 12 18 10 8 19 16 7 21 95 81 44.0 28.7 33.2
Purdue 19 51 38 22 24 37 62 57 78 75 61.8 46.3 49.7
Michigan St 54 38 79 34 66 35 80 47 33 55 50.0 52.1 51.8
Minnesota 62 69 46 24 38 27 48 123 75 64 67.4 57.6 59.5
Northwestern 27 67 100 58 56 34 93 86 44 61 63.6 62.6 63.2
Illinois 63 15 57 116 101 96 108 30 68 98 80.0 75.2 77.1
Indiana 82 48 98 121 98 74 84 72 125 94 89.8 89.6 91.0

 

Proposed East Division teams are in bold.  Looks pretty balanced visually, eh?  Note that under none of the three "average" columns, do OSU, PSU, and U-M make up the top three.  Doc Saturday notes that those three teams have accounted for the last eight conference championships, but that ignores the facts that (1) Iowa has been right in the mix in several years and (2) Nebraska would have been, too, had they, you know, been a part of the conference.  It also ignores the issues of (1) Michigan not being very good since Lloyd Carr retired and being far from a rock-solid bet to return to national prominence in the next few years and (2) the big question mark that looms over Penn State's post-JoePa future.

Back to the numbers.  Under all three measures of average ranking, the 12 teams can be cleanly grouped into four tiers:

  • Ohio State, by itself.
  • Iowa, Michigan, Nebraska, Penn State, Wisconsin
  • Michigan State, Minnesota, Northwestern, Purdue
  • Illinois, Indiana

(Single exception: Penn State moves into Ohio State's tier if you only look at the last 5 years.)

A simple East-West alignment splits the six teams in the first two tiers into two groups of three and splits each of the other two tiers neatly in half, as well.  Tough to beat that.  Doc Saturday attempts it by swapping out Wisconsin for Penn State.  That's not really an improvement based on the data above--and if we're not using recent historical performance data to measure "competitive fairness," what is it we're using?  Meanwhile, you'd be splitting those team off from both their current protected rivalries.

Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I rest my case.  Anything you do to place more emphasis on competitive fairness leads to a marginal improvement, while creating significant disruptions in the other two categories of consideration.

(Now let me offer potential rebuttals to my own argument, thinking from purely a Spartan perspective.  Suppose Michigan does return to glory again in the near future and Penn State manages to maintain its current level of success under whoever succeeds Paterno.  MSU could be related to permanent second-[intra]division status.  But, you know what, until MSU can consistently compete with Michigan and Penn State, are we really going to have any real football success, anyway?

Also: This thing is problematic from a basketball perspective, assuming you're going to use to the same divisions in both revenue-producing sports.  Three of the four teams that have been consistently in the hunt for the Big Ten title [MSU/Purdue/OSU/Wisconsin] in recent years are in the East. Illinois provides some counter weight in the West, but Indiana is the best bet of the current lower division teams to rise to contention and they're in the East.  Further analysis is warranted here.  Big Ten regular season championships aren't quite as big a deal as football championships, given the existence of an actual postseason championship event.  Still, I'd really hate to give Bo Ryan a significant advantage before the first conference game is even played each season.)

P.S. Yes, you need divisions.  Otherwise, you end up with a situation where a superior team can be excluded from the championship game because two teams had substantially easier schedules.  With divisions, you've at least equalized 62.5%+ of any team's schedule, including a head-to-head match-up, relative to any other team in its division.  Plus permanent divisions are preferable in terms of maintaining/establishing/building annual rivalry games.

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i think this really sticks for us, but thats our problem i guess. we havnt really ever been a naitonal power in football. i do like where dantiono has us heading. and i think that on some years we can get into that championship game. this looks like the best scenario to me especially if you look at travel. moving penn state to the west doesnt make a lot of sense. unless they did something like protect rivalries yearly even though they are in a different division (i think that was touched on here before). im just glad i started buying season tickets a few years ago. i think this is great for the b10 and for msu football. hopefully we can compete for some championships!

by tbone521 on Jun 14, 2010 8:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Dunno...

…if any old timers are going to wander by, but MSU was most definately a national power in football in the 60s and the 50s. Game of the century, three national titles, 1966 loaded with future NFL greats, etc.

by witless chum on Jun 14, 2010 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

age

i was -15 years old in 1969. doesnt really count imo.

the lions were good in the 50s too..

by tbone521 on Jun 15, 2010 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was...

…minus 9, but I had a mother and father who went to MSU. And my mom would talk about Duffy Daugherty and how Ara Parseghian was a very bad man.

by witless chum on Jun 15, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm for this as well

But at the same time, I’m still not sure that this is very competitively balanced. East has its top tier above the west top tier. They also have their middle to lower tier above the West’s middle to lower tier.

More specifically, the East middle to bottom tier is almost on par with the West’s top tier. Sure, we don’t know if Michigan will reach the potential that it might have been at a few years ago, but nothing is certain with the west top tier either. Iowa hasn’t had sustained success either.

It’s tough to really sort out. But because it’s so tough, I’m inclined just to go with straight geography.

by formerlyanonymous on Jun 14, 2010 8:24 PM CDT reply actions  

It may not be efficient

But I don’t think you can you have Penn State in the East; having the three most prominent teams in one division just seems like a recipe for disaster.

by myworldentire on Jun 14, 2010 8:30 PM CDT reply actions  

It's not like Nebraska, Iowa, and Wisconsin are chopped liver

Any attempt at realignment that is based on competitive balance is only going to work as long as the balance of power doesn’t shift. We’ve already seen some shifts in the past decade (the emergence of Iowa and Wisconsin, PSU’s dark years and rejuvenation, Michigan’s Half-Decade of Infinite Pain). Not worth screwing with existing rivalries (any more than necessary) for something that would be of minor benefit at best, and that only as long as there is no further shift in the power centers in the conference.

Look at the ACC’s division lineup now. It was based on a presumed Florida St-Miami hegemony. The result? Based on overall record, last year’s Atlantic winner was fourth-best – and those division lineups were drawn just five years ago.

by SpartanDan on Jun 15, 2010 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

don't divide basketball

Divisions might make some sense in the context of football scheduling, where there are fewer games and only two schools play for the championship. Although that theoretical 62.5% schedule parity doesn’t account for home field advantage. There are still merits.

Since everyone plays in the conference basketball tournament, though, I don’t see a compelling argument there. Divisions might help normalize scheduling within the division, but it doesn’t equalize strength of schedule between divisions. If one division is significantly stronger, it actually makes it more disparate.

by lesmanalim on Jun 14, 2010 9:26 PM CDT reply actions  

That may be the way to go, the more I think about it

Was just thinking how Doc Saturday’s divisions would be really awful for basketball purposes. Basically the Haves are in the East and the Have-Nots are in the West (only exceptions: Michigan/Illinois).

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by KJ@theonlycolors on Jun 14, 2010 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly

We don’t know what the powers will be in 5-10 years, to say nothing of 20. Trying to engineer the divisions on competitive balance is a fools errand and a repeat of the Big 12’s mistakes. Protect as many rivalries as possible. If that’s truly Delany’s priority list, he’s going to lead us into problems. Wiscy/Iowa/Nebraska should produce at least one good team in almost every of the next few years to challenge the winner of the eastern death match.

It’s probably bad for MSU to be stuck with OSU and PSU every year, but you gotta beat the best to be the best.

by witless chum on Jun 15, 2010 6:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

What about a North/South balance? (I’m too lazy to do anything other than suggest it.)

by SpartanBoiler on Jun 14, 2010 9:58 PM CDT reply actions  

No good

For one, it splits Mich-OSU. That’s not going to happen without a protected rivalry, and I don’t really like those because they make it more likely you miss other teams from the opposite division (nor would all the others have an obvious candidate if you went purely on latitude). That and it doesn’t really help much geographically, as the conference spreads much further E/W than N/S.

Here’s what it would probably be on a pure N/S balance:
North: Minn, Wisc, Iowa, NW, Mich, MSU
South: Neb, Ill, Ind, Pur, OSU, PSU

To make protected rivalries work, you’d probably swap Iowa with Purdue and make Minn-Neb, Iowa-Wisc (or swap these two), Ill-NW, Ind-Pur, OSU-Mich, MSU-PSU protected. Then the only rivalry you lose is Iowa-Minn (or Iowa-Wisc), and they get Nebraska as a replacement. But that leaves you a 40% play rate against the other five teams in the division (assuming 8 conference games).

by SpartanDan on Jun 15, 2010 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Divisions and the BTN

These divisions make perfect sense for football and, probably, baseball and softball. As far as men’s hoops, they should forget about divisions. NU has some pretty good non-revenue sports teams also, e.g. women’s volleyball and men’s wrestling. I have also heard from those who concentrate on following NU that Delaney has let the NU people who matter (Tom Osborne) know that the BTN will carry NU sports this academic year. I would expect that every cable tv provider in Nebraska and the Dakotas will have the BTN as a basic cable channel by Jan. 1, 2011, or sooner if the BTN can carry two NU football games. The rumor I heard regarding NU’s decision was that at the Big 12 meeting last week, the UT people went on about saving the Big 12, but when asked about sharing their TV revenue with the other schools by the NU Chancellor said “Not gonna’ happen.” That was is for NU and CU.

by Uncle Omar on Jun 14, 2010 10:15 PM CDT reply actions  

I decided to take the complex route

I’m not sure my plan works completely, but I think it might. It should at least be an interesting twist.

by formerlyanonymous on Jun 14, 2010 10:49 PM CDT reply actions  

I like it, though my head is hurting a little.

Here are some general objectives for any conference divisional system:
1. It should produce a clear conference champion
2. It should give every team a fair opportunity to compete for the championship
3. It should preserve existing intraconference team rivalries

I kind of doubt any one one system can optimally meet all those.

Your scheme seems especially strong on 3 and I think 1. The standard 2-division system tends to fail badly on at least two of the three, at least every couple of years.

Penn State does seem to have an easy pod, though.

This seems sort of intermediate between the standard 2-division system and a Euro-football floating system, where some teams change division every year based on their wins and losses. That has appeal to me as well, although it doesn’t seem ideal here.

I also think, with the bigger conference, there is a strong argument for additional conference football games. All of our schools seem to be using the 12th game to schedule a crap team. Michigan is playing UMass this year. MSU is playing Florida Atlantic AND Northern Colorado this year. While I understand the economics of this, the money is going to be pouring in anyway, and I as a football fan would far rather sit in Spartan Stadium watching MSU play Minnesota or Nebraska than Florida Atlantic. Shoot, just move to 10 conference games and 2 non-cons.

by nothsa on Jun 15, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Divisions

Only need to go football only, every other sport can just deal with an unbalanced schedule. Not playing everyone in your conference is only acceptable in football because of the limited amount of games.

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by Seer on Jun 14, 2010 11:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics....

A look at the last ten years, with an arbitrary weighting system is most definitely not the correct approach.

Michigan’s numbers are incredibly skewed based on their horrible teams these past 2 years. If you exclude the last 2 years, they just edge out OSU for #1 in conference. Now we KNOW that is the REAL Michigan, not what we’ve seen these past 2 years. This alignment puts the top 3 schools in the same division, creating a “group of death”.

IMO, a far better alignment would be:

Northwest:
Nebraska
Iowa
Minnesota
Michigan
Northwestern
Wisconsin

SouthEast
Ohio State
Penn State
Michigan State
Purdue
Indiana
Illinois

Add 1 protected cross over rivalry games and you’re all set.

by bstirrat on Jun 15, 2010 12:26 AM CDT reply actions  

So you think...

MSU or OSU are going to be ok with not playing Michigan every year?

by myworldentire on Jun 15, 2010 2:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good point

Make an exception for them, giving them 2 protected rivalries. IMO, this would still be more equitable than putting UM, OSU and PSU in the same division

by bstirrat on Jun 15, 2010 2:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Then UM's only playing the other 4 teams in the SE division once every 4 years

If you look at an 8-year average excluding the last 2 years, Michigan jumps up into OSU territory, but then Penn State drops all the way to 7th.

Outside of the Buckeyes, there’s a lot of fluctuation in team strength, even within one decade.

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by KJ@theonlycolors on Jun 15, 2010 6:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

PSU will improve once Paterno is gone, most likely...

I think it’s pretty certain whenever you have a better than average coach at any one of these schools (UM, OSU, PSU and Neb), they will be able to produce highly competitive teams, and be in the top 4 in the league. Within the last decade there has been fluctuation, but I think it would be a mistake to focus on the last decade. If you simply look at stadium capacity and available resources, the top 4 are clearly OSU, PSU, UM and Neb.

You could swap Northwestern for MSU, which in a sense would give teams like NU and Indiana more of a competitive chance, or maybe even Iowa, with locked in rivalry game for Iowa and Neb.

by bstirrat on Jun 15, 2010 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is the most logical breakdown I've seen

Which probably means they will do something else.

To solve the basketball problem, would you really need to do divisions? They already have an unbalanced schedule where you don’t always play everyone twice. Could they have teams drop a non-conference game or two and add to the conference schedule? That might hurt bubble teams trying to pad some wins for NCAAs, but I think it’s worth considering.

I think because of how inflexible football is in terms of scheduling you have to make the decision basically without considering other sports. Figure out what works best for a football schedule and then make it work elsewhere.

by trivialstuff16 on Jun 15, 2010 8:19 AM CDT reply actions  

East/West Makes Sense

1) No matter how they are structured, someone will complain that one of the divisions (on paper) will be stronger than the other.

2) In most situations that work to “balance the divisions” by splitting up OSU, UM, and PSU, it usually leads to a West division that is top heavy over the east. it seems like once OSU, PSU and UM have been split up, people fail to look at the resulting divisions and ask themselves if they look balanced now.

3) Focus on getting good match ups and keep rivalries together.

4) If they are set up East/West the team that makes it to the conference title game from both divisions will have earned it.

by Aaron Musfeldt on Jun 30, 2010 6:13 PM CDT reply actions  

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