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Making Sense of Realignment.  Sorta.

The conference division stories have obviously been dominated by the impending move of the OSU/U-M game from November to October (ZOMG!).  The mouthbreathing from both U-M and OSU partisans has been plentiful in the aftermath, but frankly, it's just not all that interesting to us, and, we reasonably assume, to fans of most other teams in the conference.  It'd be great if that game stays in the last week of the season--and there's no doubt that it's the most desirable option--but the world will still turn if THE GAME is in October, not November.

Rather, for Spartans, the most relevant upshot of the (seemingly inevitable) change is that Michigan will be the new season-closer.  For us, it's a clear upgrade: we move from ending the year with a contrived rivalry, to ending it with a real one.  Michigan would end up in a similar position to Texas and Oklahoma: playing their primary conference rival in the middle of the season, and ending the year with the in-state hate game.  In other words, it'll be interesting and fine, and the MSU/U-M game will take on some added significance on both sides.  Good deal for us.

But who will the other conference opponents be?  In the wake of Barry Alvarez's comment yesterday that Iowa and Wisconsin will be split up, predicting the members of each division has become today's most popular parlor game.  We do know a few things: assuming that Michigan and Ohio State do end up splitting up, Michigan and MSU will be in the same division.  Further, if Iowa and Wisconsin isn't going to be a yearly game, it figures that Iowa and Minnesota also won't be in the same division.  If Minnesota and Iowa were in the same division, Iowa and Wisconsin would be the natural protected rivalry, and Alvarez's comments wouldn't make much sense.  Also, more simply, most reports have Minnesota and Wisconsin in the same division.  So, that's that.  Also, it's likely that Illinois and Northwestern will remain paired in the same division, and Purdue and Indiana will be placed in the other.  In terms of historical success, each pair is the rough equivalent of the other, and this setup will allow those season-ending rivalry games to continue as such.

More, after the jump.

Star-divide

Now, onto the teams at the top.  Ohio State and Penn State will probably be kept together, so OSU remains with one of its two existing protected rivalries.  If PSU and OSU are together, Nebraska (the other historic power) has to move into the other division.  Nebraska and Iowa is a natural rivalry, so we keep them together, and place Wisconsin into the other division with Penn State and Ohio State.  Thus, we end up with this:

Division #1

Division #2

Michigan State

Ohio State

Michigan

Penn State

Nebraska

Wisconsin

Iowa

Minnesota

Illinois

Purdue

Northwestern

Indiana

 

I've placed Illinois and Northwestern with MSU based on Mark Hollis's comments on how he'd like Northwestern to be a yearly game.  You could switch Illinois/Northwestern with Purdue/Indiana with very few problems.  The resulting divisions are the same that BHGP and Maize 'n Brew, among others, have come up with.  At the risk of sounding too self-satisfied, they're the divisions that make the most sense, as long as teams are not being divided on pure geography.  Which they won't be, unfortunately.

Now, the cross-divisional protected rivalries.  Michigan-Ohio State and Iowa-Minnesota are obvious.  The key to figuring out the others is, quite simply, to figure out who will play Nebraska.  Penn State and Wisconsin both have a claim.  PSU and Nebraska have the 1994 hate, are the bookends of the conference geography, are two traditional powers, and would create a pretty great game on a yearly basis.  Conversely, Wisconsin has been trying to claim a yearly game with Nebraska since--literally--the day of the announcement, and Alvarez (a Nebraska alum) really wants this to happen.

Let's assume that Penn State wins the day; that matchup would likely be the bigger revenue generator, and as we've seen, this entire thing is all about cash.  So, that leaves MSU, Illinois, and Northwestern on one side, and Wisconsin, Purdue, and Indiana on the other.  The obvious solution here is to place MSU with Wisconsin--because then Illinois-Indiana and Northwestern-Purdue are then easy choices, as they're existing protected rivalries. 

[Diversion: personally, I'm not wild about this plan, because we'd be moving from an annual game against one conference power (Penn State) to another (Wisconsin--albeit a lesser power).  Thus, in my dream scenario, I'll put Wisconsin with Northwestern (Border War game!!!1), Purdue with Illinois, and MSU with Indiana -- making the Ol' Brass Spittoon game an annual affair.  Substituting PSU for Indiana would be phenomenal in terms of wins and losses.]

In any event, we've got: Ohio State vs. Michigan, Iowa vs. Minnesota, Nebraska vs. Penn State, Michigan State vs. Wisconsin, Purdue vs. Northwestern, Illinois vs. Indiana.

But what if Wisconsin is placed with Nebraska?  Then  PSU-MSU makes sense to preserve the epic Land Grant Rivalry, even if Hollis has seemed rather tepid as to whether he'd like to keep this game.  Then, Indiana-Illinois, and Purdue-Northwestern, and it's a done deal.

Anyway, your best guesses at realignment are welcome, in the comments.

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said it in the past, but it makes sense to me to scramble it up geographically if you’re not going to keep it aligned that way.

So, with names inspired by the Life Aquatic With Steve Zissou

Division One
Michigan State
Indiana
Northwestern
Penn State
Nebraska
Wisconsin

Division A
Michigan
Purdue
Illinois
Ohio State
Iowa
Minnesota

Listed in orders of rivalry protection. The basic gist being that this way, people throughout the conference care about both divisions, since a team in each state/ its bordering state is in the other division. Works out fairly even.

Es gibt keine Freude wie Schadenfreude

by Seer on Aug 26, 2010 10:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Good point in BHGP comments section

If conference is really valuing competitive balance/W-L data above all else, it would make sense to make Wisconsin-Iowa fixed rivals and match MSU up with Minnesota. (LVS is assuming Alvarez’s comments imply that Iowa and Wisconsin won’t be fixed rivals, but I’m not so sure. The bit in the article on that point is short/vague.)

http://www.blackheartgoldpants.com/2010/8/26/1651826/big-ten-realignment-division#45285477

I’m cool with that (relatively speaking; I remain, of course, in the KISS camp).. Given that any fixed rivalry (assuming we’re in the same division with Michigan) is going to be contrived, I’d rather not lock in 4 of the 6 traditional upper-division teams every year. A moot point, perhaps, until MSU really builds up to being a conference title contender, but who knows how long these divisions will be around for.

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by KJ@theonlycolors on Aug 27, 2010 8:35 AM CDT reply actions  

So if Wisconsin wins the Nebraska game

are we stuck with PSU? Any rivalry other than UM is sort of contrived – lets face it, they’re our only true rival in the conference. Given that, it would be nice to have our contrived “rivalry” game against someone we have a 50-50 chance of beating. If the glory days of the 60s come back then PSU would be a natural rival. Barring that, Minnesota or Purdue look like more even matches.

If I had to pick between Wisconsin and PSU, I pick Wisconsin – not because I think we’d be more evenly matched against them, but because we already have a basketball rivalry going with them and I think that might help grow a true rivalry in football.

by TheCrestedHelm on Aug 27, 2010 8:43 AM CDT reply actions  

I can't see it

If this whole thing is being driven by creating the best possible potential match-ups for TV—and it is, by all appearances—I can’t see the conference foregoing PSU-Nebraska being an annual affair.

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by KJ@theonlycolors on Aug 27, 2010 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

I kind of like the idea of a PSU Nebraska game myself

It pitts the two league Jonny-come-latelys against each other, and two traditional powers against each other, and would probably be more competitive than our annual PSU “rivalry”.

If the guiding force behind all this is money, is protecting the Minnesota-Iowa rivalry really a slam dunk? I’m not all familiar with how that Minnesota-Iowa game is viewed by both fanbases – do they care passionately about it, or not so much?

I ask because a Wisconsin-Iowa game would rack up better ratings, I would think, and have larger conference and national title implications than an Iowa-Minnesota game (or MSU-Wisconsin). It pits two teams that regularly challenge for the conference title against one another. If we’re assuming that strong matchups and the revenue they generate is the guiding force behind all this, a Wisconsin-Iowa matchup makes sense. Which leaves us with Minnesota – not exactly a hated rival, but we’ll always have Michigan. And they’ll always have Wisconsin.

by TheCrestedHelm on Aug 27, 2010 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dodging OSU

Considering I thought we’d end up in a division with both OSU and UofM I’m excited by the Michigan/OSU in different divisions alignment.

All signs point to us getting put in the same division as Michigan so we will avoid having OSU on the schedule every year.

I’ll take any combination of PSU/Wisconsin etc. over playing OSU yearly.

by RickTheBloggerMartel on Aug 27, 2010 9:02 AM CDT reply actions  

That's a good point

OSU is really in a tier by itself, so not having to play them every 2 years is a pretty significant advantage.

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by KJ@theonlycolors on Aug 27, 2010 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

9 game Big 10 Schedule

Obviously a 9 game Big 10 Schedule will change that …..but lets look at a 8 game schedule using the divisions provided by LVS:

Division 1: Michigan, MSU, Nebraska, Iowa, Illinois, Northwestern
Division 2: OSU, PSU, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Purdue, Indiana

Every year games: Michigan, Nebraska, Iowa, Illinois, NW (protected either Wisc/PSU)

That leaves 2 games to fill from: OSU, Wisc/PSU Minnesota, Purdue, Indiana

It seems like we will have good/bad years like we do now when teams rotate on and off the schedule.

by RickTheBloggerMartel on Aug 27, 2010 9:39 AM CDT reply actions  

Reports on Twitter

indicating that out-of-division games will not count in standings for determining title game entrants, other than tie-breakers.

Insanity.

Fight for The Only Colors: Green and White!

by KJ@theonlycolors on Aug 27, 2010 1:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Es gibt keine Freude wie Schadenfreude

by Seer on Aug 27, 2010 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not going to post another one

out of mercy to those with slow loading pages. I did discover that there does not seem to be a quintuple facepalm pic yet, though there is a quadruple.

Es gibt keine Freude wie Schadenfreude

by Seer on Aug 28, 2010 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

You are joking.

Please tell me you are joking.

There are no words in the English language to describe the amount of idiocy such a decision would require. I’m not even sure there are sufficient words in Yiddish, and no language has a better variety of funny-sounding words of insult.

by SpartanDan on Aug 27, 2010 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

twitter also said...

Izzo was as good as gone. Wait till we have some actual info, THEN bust out the facepalms

by SpartyOn37 on Aug 27, 2010 11:04 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

The info came from the-ozone.net (an OSU site, not sure exactly how reputable but they’ve been around quite a while) saying that on WTKA, Dave Brandon mentioned it. There’s a link there to the podcast. So this isn’t some random unsourced/anon-sourced rumor.

If there is even a shred of truth to this, I’ll … I honestly don’t know what I’ll do. My brain can’t process that level of insanity.

by SpartanDan on Aug 27, 2010 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Switch Iowa and Illinois...

with Wisconsin and Minnesota. Keeps Wisconsin with you Spartans and Minnesota can play the Brown Jug with Michigan. And Barry Alvarez can have his yearly game with Nebraska. I don’t necessarily think this will happen but I’d prefer it.

Personally, I’d rather play the “Great Lakes” teams than the “Great Plains” teams. Just a Wolverine fan’s opinion if it’s decided we’re split.

by Good Ol' Oakley on Aug 28, 2010 7:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Rexrode thinks

that our protected rival will be either Purdue or Northwestern. I don’t really see it, but he could know something I don’t. (I.e., anything.)

by LVS on Aug 31, 2010 12:27 AM CDT reply actions  

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