Korie Lucious Arrested for Drunk Driving
by Pete Rossman on Aug 31, 2010 11:21 AM CDT
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PrintThe most tumultuous basketball offseason in memory just got a little more tumultuous, as Lansing TV station WLNS is reporting that Korie Lucious was arrested for drunk driving last night. According to WLNS:
We have a copy of the ticket which says he blew a .09 on a breathalyzer test.
For reference, .08 is the legal limit (Edit - if you're over 21 - which Lucious isn't. It's .00 for minors). Lisa Byington is reporting that Izzo won't comment until he gathers all the facts but rest assured his comments will not be glowing. On the plus side, football season starts Saturday, and I'd never thought I'd be using football to get away from basketball's problems.
EDIT: For the record, Lucious doesn't turn 21 until November, so there might be a minor in possession charge as well.
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Well,
As much as I DON’T endorse drunken driving, this is unfortunately something dumb that a lot of 21 y/o kids do. Thankfully, neither he nor anyone else was hurt, and hopefully, Izzo can tighten the Lucious leash & he (and other Spartans, athletes & non-athletes alike) can learn from this.
I see probation & community service, and some embarrasment. Fortunately, this is the closest that anyone on the team has come to getting into any type of legal trouble whatsoever, which is a good thing.
For Korie – really? You can’t have anyone else give you a lift? I’m sure there are plenty of women in & around EL that would have been happy to drive your drunk behind home.
Or he could walk like the other hundreds of drunk kids that were out last night.
Ooonst ooonst muthafucka!
There but for the grace of God go I
Korie isn’t the first guy to jump in a car when he’s had a few too many. That doesn’t change the fact he allegedly made a really, really, really stupid decision. But, look back on your own actions as a 20-year old before judging too harshly. It’s not an age renowned for its intelligent choices.
It bears repeating, though, stupid decision.
Korie's from Wisconsin....
…..0.09 is how they wake up in the morning. jk
Bad decision. Very glad nobody got hurt. He’s gonna have some serious fines/lawyer fees to pay (hopefully he won’t make more bad decisions on how to get the money)
ASMSU
They are good at stuff like this. Ask a guy who has never been in Spartan Stadium who has a civil infraction for bringing alcohol there instead of an MIP/open intox misdemeanor.
The 54-B courthouse. Not a cheap place to repeatedly visit.
Spot on
I remember asking the judge “Hey why am I getting a drinking in the stadium ticket instead, doesn’t that mean I was drinking too” at which he replied “Son, do you want the 150 dollar fine or would you like some community service, too?”
I know exactly what you are talking about.
Everything sucks about Philadelphia.
by lolredwings on Aug 31, 2010 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions
.09 is barely DUI territory...
stupid of him to put himself in a situation where he could get in trouble like this – but lets be realistic here – very good chance he wasn’t impaired at all and probably didn’t think he’d have blown that high if he got pulled over. Sucks that he’s going to have to deal with the counseling and all that jazz – but it’s not the end of the world.
But he's a minor
Doesn’t matter if he blew .03, he was in trouble.
My reaction is best summed up by the words of Swiper the Fox: “Awwwwh, maaaan.”
by intrpdtrvlr on Aug 31, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Welcome week:
It’s FAAAAAAAAANTASTIC!
PP-TPW.
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by LVS on Aug 31, 2010 11:47 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Unless you live off campus
Then you arrived a couple days earlier
Es gibt keine Freude wie Schadenfreude
Suspension of some kind by Izzo
Seems likely to me, if only for a game or two.
He made a dumb decision and there will be some consequences. But I agree with what has been said already. He’s hardly the first 20 year old to make this type of mistake.
Obviously he screwed up, but not in a way that should have major long term implications for the basketball team, other than leaving him on much thinner ice going forward with coach.
I guess maybe we’ll see a whole bunch of keith appling in a few early games, especially if as expected Kalin is still getting up to speed early in the season.
by trivialstuff16 on Aug 31, 2010 12:04 PM CDT reply actions
Depends
I think Morningstar from Kansas had a DUI last year, and correct me if I’m wrong, but he was suspended for the nonconference schedule I believe. That’s a frame of reference for you.
by Pete Rossman on Aug 31, 2010 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
That wasn't all was it?
Wasn’t there other stuff on top of that .. like getting in fights with the football team and breaking bones punching people or something?
Possibly
But I think there were a lot of basketball players involved in fighting with the football team. I believe the DUI may have been the final straw, but I’m not completely sure.
by Pete Rossman on Aug 31, 2010 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Well on the bright side
well see if Appling can pull his weight in that case!
Ooonst ooonst muthafucka!
That's less encouraging
I was thinking 1 or 2 games at minimum. But I could imagine more. I guess I thought the entire nonconference would surprise me.
http://deadspin.com/5373914/more-trouble-in-lawrence-morningstar-suspended
This references the fights. I don’t think there is any NCAA or Big Ten standard that I am aware of. Probably at the discretion of the coach, who in our case has a reputation for discipline. After all, lucious sat out a game last year for missing a class. So yea, it will probably be more than a couple games. I don’t know if there is much point in trying to speculate a number though.
by trivialstuff16 on Aug 31, 2010 12:14 PM CDT reply actions
There is a recent Big Ten case
Although it was more extreme but former Illinois player Jamar Smith got behind the wheel with a teammate in the car and hit a tree injuring his teammate. Apparently he then walked away from the accident and his wounded teammate. Smith was ultimately kicked off the team. Don’t think that’s in store for Korie but what he’s done is public knowledge and stains the university, only a small group seem to know what Allen did and he’s gone…
Go Hard or get some popcorn
This will be interesting
Izzo has not had to deal with an issue like this in, like, the last 10 years. Add to the fact that Korie has already been in the doghouse for team-related issues last year and it’s going to be interesting to see how this plays out. My gut reaction is that any Izzo-imposed punishment will be on the strict side. I doubt he will have any sympathy whatsoever for the fact that it’s only a .09 or that it’s welcome week or that we all made dumb decisions when we were 20.
But on a not-trying-to-excuse-the-behavior note, is the ELPD really issuing DUI citations for a breathalyzer (not PBT) reading that’s within the margin of error for those machines?
by Ducking Delvon on Aug 31, 2010 12:20 PM CDT reply actions
It won't matter in Lucious's case
He’s under 21, so the legal limit’s zero.
by Pete Rossman on Aug 31, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh yeah
Well, maybe that machine had a margin of error of +/- .09.
by Ducking Delvon on Aug 31, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Driving Drunk
or buzzed or whatever……it was illegal. You know it, I know and HE knew it. He’s just gonna have to suck it up and take his punishment like a man.
Appling
The answer to this question may have just gotten a lot more complicated.
by Ducking Delvon on Aug 31, 2010 12:56 PM CDT reply actions
Yeah
Appling now looks like a near-lock to start his first collegiate game.
Fight for The Only Colors: Green and White!
by KJ@theonlycolors on Aug 31, 2010 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions
No excuse for driving drunk
As a person who got rear-ended by a drunken driver who got arrested on the scene, I feel that driving drunk is as bad as a random-gun-firing. Some people just don’t realize how serious it is. When they realize what they have done, it is often too late.
Korie will have to bear some responsibility, and I hope he become a better person.
Yeah um...
When they start sentencing people to jail time for texting and driving or talking on the cell phone and driving (both infinitely more dangerous than DUI)…maybe I’d get a little more sense of outrage.
Not to diminish the issue but police don’t need to prove impairment anymore. Merely having BAC above a certain level “proves” that you were incapable of driving. Whether or not that is actually the case.
Prohibition and the nanny state in full effect.
You are actually saying that?
talking on a cell phone and texting is NO WHERE near as deadly. I can do either fine, since its fairly easy to text without looking. Drunk Driving is one of the most foolish things you can do because its not simply a lack of attention to the road but the person cant help but be a terrible driver.
Ooonst ooonst muthafucka!
Not to sidetrack this into a moral debate, but...
http://www.cnbc.com/id/31545004/Texting_And_Driving_Worse_Than_Drinking_and_Driving , given they don’t cite the most reliable source in this particular article, but to say “NO WHERE near as deadly” is just flat out ignorant.
I think we've gone far enough down this rabbit trail, folks
Fight for The Only Colors: Green and White!
by KJ@theonlycolors on Aug 31, 2010 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Not a wise decision
although I made the same one on occassion at that age, so I can’t really criticize too much. This may make the pre-conference season a lot more “interesting”. I’m not sure we can expect Lucas to be capable of playing major minutes at the start of the season, so assuming Lucious is suspended for several games that leaves us with Appling and Summers as primary ball handlers for long stretches.
If Lucas can only play 10-20 minutes at the beginning of the season we can expect a lot of what we saw in the tournament – getting the ball up into the offensive end by committee and hope, and then Green playing his point-forward role and initiating the half court offense. I really have a hard time seeing how we run with only two full strength guards on the roster. I hope Summers has been working on his ball handling this summer – we’ll need him to be solid in that area. I guess we have Kebler – if he can just get the ball across half court without turning it over and pose a reasonable threat to hit spot up jumpers he may play quite a bit.
Buzzed surgery is drunk surgery
It’s funny how Korie does something like this that brings all sorts of negative attention to the team and is ethically wrong, yet ultimately he will miss a few games. Chris Allen, on the other hand, has problems internally and gets dismissed without saying anything more than “he was a bad teammate” and he “didn’t live up to off-season obligations.” On a university level, it is hard to argue that Korie’s instance isn’t worse than the Allen’s situation, yet Korie will still be here next year.
Unless we know the details of Allen's situation, I'm not sure we can make that judgment.
Just because they were “internal” and kept private doesn’t mean they weren’t significant and/or chronic.
Put me on record
for a stiff punishment. This whole “lots of kids do this” business is ridiculous. It’s illegal, it’s dangerous, and it creates all sorts of intangible problems for him and his team. Izzo’s always run a clean program where this stuff just doesn’t happen. Keep it that way.
Tonight's going to be a good night.
by Spartalytical on Aug 31, 2010 2:51 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm not pretending to know what Izzo will or should do
but I’m prepared for any punishment. Nothing too stiff would surprise me. Not after Chris Allen and last season’s tumult.
C'mon dude
During welcome week? Seriously? You didn’t happen to notice an extra cop or two around?
the proportional increase in welcome week partying
is probably a good deal higher than the proportional increase in police deployment.
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