Welcome Aboard: Travis Trice
(Big HT to Con-T for his help on this article.)
Years have passed since Michigan State basketball had a commitment come out of the blue, but I think it's fair to say that everyone was surprised with Obie Travis Trice, AAU teammate of MSU commit Branden Dawson, pledging Michigan State yesterday. The 5'11", 160 lb. point guard from Dayton will take the final scholarship in the 2011 class, assuming no current players leave. Here's how the recruiting services rate Trice's skills:
RIVALS: No ranking
SCOUT: 2 stars
ESPN: Grade of 88, #55 PG
While those grades seem poor, Trice helped his stock immensely with a great July on the AAU circuit. In fact, he helped it so much that Butler, Dayton, and Minnesota all offered him in the past few days. Here's what Rivals's Brian Snow had to say about him at one tournament:
Dawson is the consistent for SYF, but Trice is the huge x-factor for them. In the semi-finals there is absolutely no way that SYF gets past King James if not for the play of Trice. He was making shots, getting to the rim, and setting up teammates very well. It was one of the best games that he played all summer. While offensively he did struggle in the championship game, Trice knew he had to step it up defensively and did. His play all tournament long was strong, and clearly he made a huge difference for SYF in clutch situations.
That gives me plenty of reason to believe that Trice will be no worse than a three-star recruit when the next rankings are released. His high school stats last year show him to be a scoring point with good hands: 22.1 points per game, 4.9 assists per game, 4.2 steals per game, and a 43% three-point percentage. While Michigan State will have both Korie Lucious and Keith Appling at the one when Trice enters in 2011, the Dayton Daily News reports that he likely will not redshirt:
The Trice family visited Michigan State on Tuesday. Wayne coach Travis Trice said Izzo told his son he expects him to play significantly as a freshman.
"I took it as hard work pays off and I’m a hard worker," Trice told the Lansing (Mich.) State Journal. "Throughout the whole day I (thought) this is too good to be true. ... I got to spend time with the (players) and watched them work out. I was like ‘Man, I could see myself here.’ "
Trice's commitment could permit Appling to work more as a wing in the Spartan offense, so if Trice's going to get significant minutes as a freshman, that might be what happens. Izzo's seen him play enough with Dawson to make a good assessment, and, yes, the rankings are a bit low, but that will change quickly once those are updated. Izzo's seen Trice play enough times to think the guard can play in the Big Ten (a little bit of weight would help though), and that's good enough for me.
With the 2011 class secure, the focus shifts to the 2012 class. The conventional wisdom is that there's two scholarships for three players: Denzel Valentine, Gary Harris, and Matt Costello. The MSU legacy Valentine will likely take the first spot (barring a sudden commitment to Michigan). The biggest factor will then be if State wants a big or the best available player. If they want a big, it's Costello, if they want the best available, it's Harris. The final scholarship could take days or months to play out, but regardless, the Spartans are sitting pretty for the foreseeable future.
UPDATE: Bonus quote from Trice's father, Travis Trice I, via Rexrode:
"Tom told Travis, 'I saw you with my own eyes. I saw you being the best player on the floor in a lot of games,'" the elder Trice recalled of the conversation. "There's a comfort level when one of the best head coaches ever lays eyes on you for 22 games and decides there's a spot for you at Michigan State."
If you're still going OMG 2 STAR RECRUIT, please stop. Thank you.
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i like it!
a true pg. i think hell be very solid. and it cant hurt to know dawson.
im not sold on costello. dude is stick figure right now.
Confused
First of all….Welcome to MSU Travis!!!
I don’t get it but I’m not the one who has led his team to 6,000 Final Fours. This kid seems extremely small and underdeveloped. Under the radar is an understatement. Sure it’s nice to have a PG that can drain the J but isn’t it also nice to have a PG that can penetrate and defend? Oh well Izzo definitely deserves the benefit of the doubt and I’ll gladly give it to him…but he’ll be second guessed on this one by a lot of folks until Travis proves his doubters wrong.
Jordan Hare
Is not mentioned as one of the final three candidates here. Personally, I think he has more upside than Costello (not that I actually know anything about either player), and apparently he has a frame that could end up being a legit 7 footer.
Any ideas on the likelihood of he being our big commit over Costello?
From what I've read, two things have to happen
1. Izzo decides he wants to have one scholarship reserved for a big.
2. Costello goes somewhere other than MSU.
From what I’ve read on different sites, it sounds like Hare’s more of a plan B. I could be wrong though.
I haven't paid too much attention...
…but it looks like Hare is a much more legit recruit than Costello. ESPN has Hare as a 96, top 60 player, Costello as a 91, non-Top 100 player. ESPN also says that Hare is very interested in MSU, while Costello is less interested. I realize these player rankings are not always the best indicator of talent, especially for players as juniors, but what’s the deal here. Is Costello really interested? Is he a better option than Hare? Are we just trusting Izzo on that decision over the recruiting agencies (which I am totally fine with)? I’m just so confused.
Costello vs. Hare
I can say for sure the “interest” thing on ESPN is inaccurate. By most accounts, MSU is the frontrunner for Costello and he is very interested. Possibly the most important point is that there’s no ambiguity on who Izzo’s No. 1 is right now and that’s Costello. That preference may not be completely on-court based but who knows.
I’m not a scout and don’t pretend to be. Hare looks like a excellent player, he’s got a great build, long arms, and can really play defense. However, Costello is highly skilled and can do a lot of things, including shoot. Definitely a more complete offensive player than Hare right now but not the defensive force that Jordan is.
This is nothing like an exact science but I like to think of it this way – Hare is the “sexier” of the two. He has an NBA body with a few more inches and may have more “upside.” Costello is the proven, blue-collar pick. Remember last year and a 2009 guy from Detroit Country Day named DeShonte Riley (now at Syracuse)? Legit 6’11" and ranked anywhere from top 20 to top 75 while in high school. Izzo passed and brought in Garrick Sherman and Derrick Nix, two post guys ranked much lower. This could be a similar scenario here. Izzo likes who he likes.
Great questions, DC. To summarize my answers would be 1. Yes 2. According to Izzo right now, yes and 3. I am and that’s probably smart.
Travis
I’m a Dayton Flyers fan and watched him closely the last year or so, as we thought for a while he and his Huber Heights Wayne teammate Markus Crider would be a package deal. While undersized, there’s no questioning his production, leadership, and knowledge of the game. He may not be a star, but I think he’ll be a valuable asset to you. All Big-Ten? Probably not, but he’ll contribute in all the ways any great team needs.
Interesting the lack of Costello love
Yeah, I know how highly ranked Gary Harris, but in-state guru Steve Bell called Costello the best Michigan post prospect since Al Horford and he’s had a major reputation since Saginaw coach Lou Dawkins started hyping him last year. Others can quibble but I don’t believe that Harris over Costello, or definitely Hare over Costello is the obvious pick lots of people are making it out to be. Is Harris the pound-for-pound best player? Probably, but I wouldn’t underestimate either of the two guys who might keep him out of MSU.
One of the things Pete mentioned I totally agree with is that this pick-up is a sign that Izzo may have intentions for Appling playing a lot of wing. On signing day Izzo said that he thought of Appling as a 2-guard first when he pursued him and that may still be the case. We’ve all been talking about him as principally a PG but that may be hasty.
Interesting
To me it sounds like a win-win situation if we land any of the three, but I’m not familiar with recruiting. I mean, the roster flexibility that we have with the variety of talented wings seems like a good predicament to be in. Would you consider recent MSU classes an improvement in recruiting or a heightened awareness of prospects due to the slew of recruiting websites/services?
2010-2012 recruiting
I think this is a remarkable recruiting run for Izzo on par with his best streaks after the national championship. Consider not just the players he’s getting but how quickly he’s wrapping it up. The 2011 and 2012 classes could both be done by the time practice starts.
That whole elite status that Izzo's always saying MSU is shy of...
…we’re getting less and less shy of it.
It's going to be a good night.
by Spartalytical on Aug 5, 2010 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions
For sure, including recruiting.
Every year I hear someone do the “Izzo needs to start recruiting…,” “Izzo can’t afford to miss on…,” “What isn’t Izzo…,” “We’ll always be a runner-up if Izzo doesn’t recruit…”
I’ve learned to just tune that out. Coach is doing just fine.
I’d say UNC is still above us, Duke is on par, but we’re in the top 3, no question.
Another team I'd throw in
Texas. They have two 5* recruits coming in this year, and another two and 2011. However, few teams seem to do less with more than the Longhorns.
All you need to know about Texas basketball recently...
…can be found in this article. I wasn’t that surprised.
Right
I think they need more Final Four/NC results to get close to those Top 3. Now, if we’re giving out recruiting national championships, you can get better than Cal who has already delivered the “greatest day in the history of Kentucky basketball.”
If TX had a coach, they'd be dangerous....
…..they always have big time recruits but never make much noise in-season. Avery Bradley was a top-5 recruit 2 years ago, didn’t do much for TX, but still was an NBA draft pick after his frosh season.
Hell, even with Kevin Durant, they only got to the 2nd round of the tournament.
I actually expect Barnes to get canned in a year or two, and I have no doubt that TX will try to throw some big $$$ to Izzo.
Ohio State
Cant forget them. I think Matta is a fantastic recruiter. He mixes one and dones with great 3-4 year guys like Leur. \
I think Izzo is probably the 4th or 5th best CLEAN recruiter. Roy Williams, Coach K and Matta are fantastic recruiters, and debatably Bill Self. Even so I would venture to say Izzo is the best coach of that bunch because he manages to do fantastic with any and every team he has, despite some years that had questionable talent pools.
I think Izzo felt like he got burned when Randolph and Richardson left, and then Taylor the next year, and shyed away from the highly touted for a couple years. But now I think he feels like he can go back to that type of player and work with them for a couple years without feeling scorned.
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Harris
I frankly think that Harris would be a better choice just because he is the best availbale player of the three. However, with Dawson now committed, I doubt Harris wanting to come here. Imagine how hard it will be for him to get any playing time when hes competing for it with Dawson, Anderson, Kearney and now Appling apparently, although I still would like to see how Appling does at the PG.
I am not sold on Trice yet. Ill follow his development and hopefully hell change my mind, but doesnt this seem like maybe Izzo offered him a scholarship to ensure that he could get Dawson? Kind of like a package deal? Maybe who knows.
Ooonst ooonst muthafucka!
Costello...
From where I’m sitting, I just think the roster is going to need a different kind of post player than Costello when the need for some new frontcourt blood arrives, aka 2013. Nix, Sherman and likely Payne will all be gone. Kaminski isn’t a true PF and neither is Dawson, both are more comfortable on the wings. Gauna is the only true post currently in the pipeline that will be on the team in 2013 and he is not a bruising type of player.
So who are the bangers? The meat to go with all of the fancy and athletic and skilled potatoes that will litter the MSU roster? That’s why I wish Izzo would go in another direction than Costello. He needs some big bodies to throw out there. Or is he just going to wait until the 2013 class to arrive before he begins filling that rather obvious need?
by LickSplickidy on Aug 6, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Costello is fine
I dont know why you seem to think he wont be tough enough. Look at Suton. Suton was criticized for being soft but by his junior year he was banging with the best. Costello seems physical enough. Sure Id prefer Hare but I really have no problem with Matt Costello. Also, if Kaminski has grown like its claimed, he should do fine as an AJ Granger type PF.
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Yeah...
But we can’t wait for two or three years for Costello to develop into the player we need. The cupboard in the frontcourt will be BARE in 2013. Right now, it’s Gauna…and nobody. Suton would’ve been a disaster if he was forced to play heavy minutes as a freshman. He just wasnt ready.
I just think we need some more size, weight and strength in the post. From the looks of things now, 2012 might not be the year to solve that problem. I’m hopeful that 2013 will be the class that we add either some classic Tom Izzo big boy bangers to the roster or some McDAA-caliber PF/C talent, the latter being the type of recruit that you can count on to perform as a true frosh, ie. Adreian Payne.
by LickSplickidy on Aug 9, 2010 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Not sure
I agree that it’d be nice to get a few more 6’10-6’11" guys then the 6’8-6’9" models that we appear to be stocking up on, but those guys don’t grown on trees. The consensus best two post players in Michigan are Jordan Hare and Matt Costello and I don’t see anyone claiming either is 6’10" right now. As for bulk, I’m sure Costello will be fine when his number is called. His skilled but I’ve never seen him described as a pure “finesse” guy. He may be your blue-collar banger. Also, “banger” is the exact word Izzo used for Gauna but, granted, not everyone agrees with Iz.
You’re right. There are so many young talented guys for 2013 already and perhaps only 2 (maybe 3) spots at MSU. With lots of excellent young perimeter players, I think it’s all the more reason to get a big man (like Costello) in 2012. It’d be a shame to have 2 spots for ’13 and have to pass on all the perimeter players available because you need two bigs.
Seems like a great "glue" guy
I’m sure some of the things being said about Trice were said about another Travis from Ohio that Izzo recruited. Walton went from one-dimensional (great D) as a frosh to a solid all-around player, one of the great leaders we’ve seen at MSU, and a guy who practically singlehandedly willed the team to the 2009 Championship game (MSU doesn’t beat USC in the 2nd round without an amazing 18-point performance from Walton).
I think the same about Valentine
You’ve got all these attacking athletes – Payne, Dawson, Anderson, etc. – you need someone to pull them all together and run the offense. I think Valentine is one of those guys too.
The thing I wonder about DV...
Is Valentine too similar of a player to Kearney? Tall, crafty, ball handling wings who are more creators than stone cold scorers? Might their combined presence on the roster be a little redundant?
by LickSplickidy on Aug 6, 2010 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Valentine
My opinion of Valentine has been raised recently but I agree. I think Kearney will be seeing a lot of time at the point, especially if Appling doesnt take it over. Kearney is not a slasher or a shooter.
So Izzo will have to ask that question. However, aside from Harris can you name a better option?
Ooonst ooonst muthafucka!
MSU has so much talent
that I think you could argue for lots of redundancies. is Harris redundant of Dwaun Anderson? Perhaps but it doesn’t mean you pass. Still, it’s all about chemistry; you want the right mix including some guys with similar skills.
True but....
The redundancy of athletic wings like Harris and Anderson has always been present on the MSU roster. That’s the style of player that Izzo seems to love and thrive on. Ager, Brown, JR, Mo Pete, Torbert, Durrell, etc…
Kearney and Valentine are more half-court nich players than they are fast break slashers and finishers that Izzo can simply roll in and out of the lineup as they get tired from all that running and above the rim play.
by LickSplickidy on Aug 9, 2010 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions
I Dont
want Appling AND Kearney on the wing… Idk I feel like well have enough wings with Anderson, Dawson and one of those two, along with Kaminski a year later and perhaps Harris.
I like the get of Trice, but i think one of the two players I mentioned better develop a PG game. In fact Im actually a little confused as to what Kearney’s role will be. What is his specific strength? It isnt shooting or passing. Hes not as explosive as Anderson nor as physical as Dawson. Can anyone help me determine what his role will be what with the recent additions?
Ooonst ooonst muthafucka!
My take on Kearney
I think Kearney’s early commitment explains some of this. He verballed early last winter and I think the staff had a bit of a “now or never” feeling with the timing of the offer. He was more of an unknown commodity and Izzo wanted to wrap him up. Since then, a lot has changed and the picture has become clearer. I’m choosing my words carefully but I think MSU is giving themselves some leeway now as to what certain players will be best suited for. You’ve got versatile players coming in, all of whom will be competing for time. Izzo probably isn’t positive yet what some people’s role will be precisely over two years from now. It’s always going to be a bit of a crapshoot. As you point out, playing time at the wing is already tight for the next few years and MSU is expected to add at least one more. It’ll be interesting, that’s for sure.
Oh, and I think Kearney’s strength is the well-rounded nature of his game. He doesn’t excel at anything yet but can do some of everything – pass, drive, shoot, rebound, defend, etc. He’s more of a potential than a production recruit right now, IMHO.
I did hear
the kid has a ridonkulous handle, thats why I think if I were Izzo Id be telling Kearney “get your passing game stepped up to the next level” because apparently the kid can dribble circles around people. Like you said, similar to Valentine. Obviously that means he wont turn it over a lot.
Plus I just dont see him ever overtaking the other recruits in their strengths, so i guess if I was the coach thats what ID do, but then again there may be a reason Im not a coach lol.
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It might sound bad...
But (right now) Kearney almost seems like a poor man’s Denzel Valentine. And what I mean by that is the player that I hope BK develops into is pretty much what I see when I watch DV play. The ball handling, the passing, the vision, the all around developed skill. Now don’t get me wrong, Brandan has those skills as well…but just not to the level and degree that I see when I watch Valentine play.
by LickSplickidy on Aug 9, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Kearney
I think Kearney is going to suprise a lot of people. I truly expect him to play a lot at the one. And yes he does mirror Valentine in those areas. But Kearney has been reportedly improving his game all over. I have spent some time recently brushing up on him, simply because I know more about all the other 2011 recruits than about him. I called games Anderson played, followed Dawson for months and read what little there is about Trice. According to Scout, hes really improved his jumper. He already had some nice hops and defensive skills. And like I said his ball handling is ridiculous.
Valentine seems to be more of a smart player, Keaney more of an instinctive type. I think that we could end up seeing Kearney as a 2001 Charlie Bell-minus the shooting prowess if that makes sense. I see him connecting to Anderson and Dawson on some ridiculous plays, whereas I see Valentine being a jack of all trades, can-help-anywhere person, who an offense CAN flow through, but Kearney will be the guy who it mostly DOES flow through. Im hoping for big things from him, bigger things than I expect from Valentine.
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