Capital One Lamentations*
Decompressing through bulletpoints:
- First off, that's a very, very good Alabama team. This was the team picked by the large majority of pundits to repeat as national champions before the season began. The Tide's plethora of NFL talent was featured throughout the game. Coming off a month of rest to get healthy, they were not going be denied. Very few teams in the country would not have succumbed to Nick Saban's squad today.
- Still, a team that wins 7 games in a power conference should be able to at least stay on the field against even a very good bowl opponent. MSU didn't do that, in some cases literally, as the thunderous hits leveled by the Alabama defenders knocked multiple Spartans out of the game. You can't really say MSU came in unprepared. The defense came out playing aggressively, making some very solid tackles on the first Alabama drive, and the offense moved the ball into Tide territory on both its first two drives. When MSU errors nevertheless turned all that into a 14-0 deficit, though, things snowballed fast, and the game was over before it really even started.
- The error on the opening Alabama drive was a pass interference call on Chris L. Rucker on a third-and-long play. It was a tough call, as both players were bumping each other going down the field, But Rucker, playing in the final game of his senior season, simply can't reach out and grab Julio Jones. Jones probably wouldn't have caught the ball anyway (which is what made the hold so unnecessary), but the officials had to make the call, since the ball landed inbounds and the hold theoretically could have been difference in Jones getting to it.
- Officiating decision I'm not at all sympathetic toward: calling intentional grounding on Kirk Cousins for his failure to get the ball to his tight end because he was, you know, getting leveled by two separate Alabama defenders. It obviously didn't make any difference in the outcome, but that was quite literally adding insult to injury at that point in the game.
- Not a lot of sense in microanalyzing the statistics from a game like this one. The only number you really need to know regarding the offense: MSU posted 103 negative yards in the game, 45 on sacks and 48 on rushing plays. After the first two drives, the offensive line gave Cousins and the backs/receivers zero chance to create any kind of momentum. John Stipek's shotgun snapping was consistently bad throughout the game, giving Cousins one more thing to worry throughout the game. Meanwhile, D.J. Young failed to, well, block anyone. You hate to pick on a guy who came in as a walk-on because he wanted to play for the university so badly, but you simply can't let your starting quarterback--and then his back-up after the starter couldn't take bounce back another time--get absolutely hammered off the blindside on drive after drive. Bigger picture, I suppose the takeaway is that a team with BCS aspirations shouldn't have to rely on a former walk-on to start at left tackle. You certainly want all of your players to overachieve (Cousins went out his way to praise both Stipek and Young for the way they overachieved during their careers), but in this case an overachieving team puts itself in a position in which its talent deficit up front became a glaring/fatal flaw. [/excessively-lengthy bullet]
- Short bullet: Kirk Cousins does so many things right--and he certainly wasn't put in a position to succeed today--but he can't try to force that ball in on the opening drive. Take the 5 yards that were there on the scramble, kick the field goal, and it's 7-3.
- Things were almost as bad in terms of line play on the other side of the ball. The defensive line couldn't make plays all day, recording a total of 1.5 tackles for loss and just one quarterback hurry. Once the Alabama runners hit the second level, the MSU defensive backs were simply over-matched. Mark Ingram and Trent Richardson didn't do major damage in terms of total yardage (101 yards on 22 carries), but they did score 3 pretty effortless TDs, and various other Alabama rushers helped get the team to 275 total rushing yards before the game was over. Against the pass, MSU couldn't generate any pass rush, allowing Greg McElroy to pick the secondary apart, completing 13 of 17 passes of 220 yards. When MSU tried blitzing to compensate for the lack of pass rush, McElroy dumped the ball off to receivers in the flat for easy first-down pick-ups.
- Add it all up, and the MSU defense didn't force the Alabama offense off the field until the point that the Tide's back-up quarterback entered the game. Mercifully, Nick Saban went to the back-up with almost 25 minutes still left in the game. It's not a good day when one of the major positive takeaways is that Nick Saban sure is a nice guy. (Weak attempt at anti-Saban zinger: This game was such a blowout that Saban could have put the guys on medical hardship scholarships in for the second half.)
- It's still an 11-2 season, which is more than any of us had hoped for going into the season. But today's game was about as bitter, unsatisfying, and embarrassing a way to end the season as you could conceive of. This team was defeated in every sense of the word. Even Mark Dantonio's jaw seemed to have lost its resolve by midway through the second quarter. Any thoughts of making a statement as a factor on the national stage now seem ridiculous, and we're left to worry about how much recruiting momentum this performance may have cost the program.
- In short: There's still a heckuva lot to be proud of from the 2010 Michigan State football season. It's just that, at the moment, it's hard to look back and see it through the part of the season that technically occurred in 2011.
*Hey, if they're going to affix themselves directly to the bowl's name, then they get to be affixed to the postgame rantings of the losing team's blog, too.
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i was in awe after these stats.
the numbers were staggering: 546 total yards for Alabama, 171 for Michigan State. Nearly perfect balance for the Crimson Tide: 275 yards rushing, 271 yards passing.
The Spartans were held to minus-48 yards rushing, 1 yard shy of an Alabama record.
Stunning difference in player personnel…Alabama’s second team could win the B10 easily. As much as I hate Nick Saban…this is the worst/best beat down that his team has ever enforced in a game. It made me wonder, was MSU so bad, over rated, under prepared..just confusing to come out and get mauled and pummeled. Both the QB’s are gone…so many players injured.
The important question is how much does this haunt MSU next year and can they cancel the Alabama series.
A sizable chunk of that -48
came from the Yakety Sax fumble (the 35-yard loss that led to punting on 4th and goal – which is something I’d never seen before and hope devoutly never to see again). But even so, -15 or so is still insane.
I've got this terrible pain in all the diodes down my left-hand side.
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Look.....
let’s just forget about it, ok? Progress has been steadily made in the program. They still need to get better. I know Dantonio’s going to try to do that. Right now, we kind of have to accept all of this.
Time for the bball team to receive our full attention
Yea what's with that call?
It wouldn’t have changed the outcome of the game even slightly but wow, that intentional grounding call was one of the worst ever. How does a guy call IG on a QB who is getting hammered from behind unexpectedly? Nevermind the fact that there was a tight end in the area anyway, but with things going so badly something like that would make me want to…well, nevermind.
Good season from a team that likely overachieved most of the season. Work to do but it’s conceivable to me that the work can be done. Beating the SEC teams will be tough, I think they have an advantage in recruiting with weather and lower academic standards and momentum but hopefully the cycle comes back around…soon.
Agreed on all counts.
The pass did end up way short of the TE, but that’s mostly because he got absolutely clobbered as he threw it.
The other call that bothered me was the incomplete pass on Bama’s second drive. Given where it was thrown from and where the receiver was, that was almost certainly a backward (or at least straight-sideways) pass, and it would have likely been a turnover or at worst 2nd and 35. Refs generally blow that dead, I know (and that’s often a good thing for us, given the number of times we run that play), but I really wish they wouldn’t.
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Agreed on all counts (the sequel)
Seemed like there were two consecutive plays where an incomplete lateral pass looked like it wasn’t traveling forward. One of the few moments the MSU D was at all disruptive and we got very little out of it.
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Jan 2, 2011 12:29 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Combined with
What Ted Glover over at OTE called about three holding penalties on the end-around touchdown (I only noticed one myself, but it was a flat-out tackle by the lineman), not even the relatively random stuff went MSU’s way yesterday.
Blast it, I'd forgotten about that one
Which surprises me since I complained rather vehemently about it at the time.
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On the other hand
The refs did overrule the early fumble call and take 6 off the board for Alabama.
Good analysis KJ.
All true.
I always like what the coaches have to say:
http://www.msuspartans.com/sports/m-footbl/recaps/010111aab.html
Again, let’s remember the whole body of work. Great season. 11-2. Great season. I enjoyed it. Thanks to everyone associated with MSU Football.
I think Dantonio and the coaching staff should have shouldered MORE blame
Honestly, after the first half, I thought we would see a feature on the halftime show about how the coaching staff spent the last month running with the bulls or climbing Kilimanjaro a la JLS. I’ve seen my share of MSU teams that have simply been outclassed over the last 30 years (the mid-90’s game against Nebraska that I was unfortunate enough to attend comes to mind), but this MSU team has far more talent than those teams. The RCMB is filled with Sunshine Blowers who would like to attribute the blowout to a “talent gap”, and some are going so far as calling Alabama “the best team in the country” and “basically a pro team”… but I have to question the final score and the seeming total lack of preparation or awareness as to what Alabama is going to do.
I think the entire MSU coaching staff needs to look at themselves in the mirror and re-evaluate how they prepare for big games.
"It's a trap!"
by AdmiralAkbar on Jan 2, 2011 11:44 AM CST up reply actions
For example..
Narduzzi should teach the damn secondary how to tackle using their ARMS instead of trying to shoulder bump every player to the ground.
This seems right
I mean, they would have known what was coming, watching film on Bama and such. We didn’t seem to have much of a plan for how to try to equalize things. Some of it was things that just didn’t work, ie, every blitz we tried getting picked up.
Has anybody here ever played football? In real life, when the guy across from you is physically kicking your butt and the same thing is happening at the majority of positions on the field, THERE ARE NO ADJUSTMENTS. Hyde got run over because Heisman-caliber backs were coming through free and clear with pads squared and a full head of steam. I wish he was Ronnie Lott, too, but let’s not pretend that coaching was the difference.
This reminded me
Of the shellacking our hoops team took from UNC in the ’09 hoops final at Ford Field. Basically, going against the team that was the virtually unanimous choice from early on to be national champs.
Hopefully our guys can take some positives from this, namely, recognize that while they are a talented squad, there still is a long long way to go move up to the level of play of teams like Bama.
This was still a great season, and I have a ton of faith on Coach D, so I’m really hopeful that our boys can find a way to build from this!
What's in OUR wallet?
I thought Cousins was mostly brilliant on those first two drives, and if he tried to do too much it was simply because he had to. Our guys were game but outmatched from the start. No “adjustment” would have mattered short of slipping a gamma mutagen into the gatorade.
Depressing to know how much higher the ceiling is. Honestly, the only way MSU can get to Alabama’s level is by buying players – lots of them. And I don’t want that to happen, despite the gut-punched feeling I have right now.
If I may add...
I don’t know if this is just my imagination, but…usually in a loss like this, the team on the receiving end starts to commit unsportsmanlike conduct penalties out of sheer frustration. I didn’t see that happening here. That seemed to me like a pretty mature and classy demonstration by the MSU players, given what they were going through (nobody who stepped on that field for MSU ever needs to prove their courage in any other way, I would say). I think the Alabama squad also seemed (mostly, at least) to realize this was not a situation that needed a lot of trash talk and such…. Maybe I’m just grasping for any sort of positive out of this…but seeing basic human decency seeming to prevail in that situation was nice…at least for me.
From Rexrode’s link:
This team won’t get a ton of preseason respect now. And if U-M hires Jim Harbaugh … well, fairly or not, a lot of people are going to say the Spartans are headed right back to this position in the state: 2
Some people already are.
The state’s media sure can’t wait for Harbaugh to come to Ann Arbor and turn water to wine.
So this is how Michigan State’s era of football dominance within its state borders ends, with a New Year’s Day hangover at a crummy stadium placed in a central Florida ghetto, a headache that will linger for years to come and alter the balance of power in Michigan college football once again.
That’s the idiot’s lead, by the way. No explanation follows of how this works exactly, just because, that’s why!
Whatever. Harbaugh ain’t magic and he won’t be bringing Andrew Luck, or any of the those Bama players with him to East Lansing next year. This is presuming it goes like everyone thinks and Harbaugh is just waiting to sign up. If he doesn’t show up on cue, I’d stand back several paces from any Michigan fans you know.
before anyone declares your advantage over Michigan over
they may want to keep in mind that Harbaugh or not, the players on that team just finished getting destroyed by a team that Bama beat 30-10. Sure the CapOne Bowl was a nightmare for you but Michigan has a long way to go before they catch up to you guys.
Good luck to the Spartans in the future and given the mutual respect that seems to have manifested itself between our two fan bases I am looking forward to our series in a couple of years.
You were just unfortunate
To have faced the Bama team that we had been waiting to see all year. Honestly, that was our best game of the year and was all the more frustrating because it showed what they were capable of.
Saban seems intent on scheduling games with the Big10 for the next few years and i hope we can establish some good rivalries again.
Good luck next year!
Well, guys...
…A disappointing end to an otherwise spectacular season. However, if you would have told me before the season that we would be +9 in the happy/sad-after-game-tally, not to mention Big Ten co-champs, I would have thought you were crazy.
One thing is for sure: there’s no way I would trade that 11-2 with a Capital One loss for a 7-5 season and a win over Baylor in the Texas Bowl.
It’ll be interesting to see how things work out next year. Which of the unknowns will have the greatest effect:
- Tougher in-conference schedule?
- Loss of OC Treadwell to a well-deserved head coaching job?
- Returning 7ish starters on offense (Nichol, Joel Foreman, Chris McDonald, BJ Cunningham, Keyshawn, Cousins, Baker / Bell / Caper) and 6ish on defense (Hoover, Worthy, Pickelman/Treadwell, Chris Norman, Johnny Adams, Trenton Robinson)?
- Highly rated prospects stepping up (Max Bullough, Will Gholston, Mylan Hicks, Darqueze Dennard)?
Keep the faith, Spartan faithful. Despite this tough loss, things are looking up, way up.
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Now it’s time for me to go into hibernation for a while. I leave tomorrow for some training and then off to a hot, sandy place (not Iraq, fortunately).
I might pop up around the time of the NCAA tournament. Otherwise, Happy New Year to the Green faithful and I’ll see y’all — virtually speaking — come football season.
Go Green!
Thanks for the positive words
and best of luck with your training/deployment, sir.
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Jan 3, 2011 11:02 AM CST up reply actions
Get used to this type of defeat - at least for a while.
I hate to say this, but the problem MS had in the bowl is …in general the Big 10 is a lousy conference. Ohio State if 0-9 against the SEC in bowl games. The Big 10 was wiped out this Saturday. The problem is incest. Yes – incest.
For many, many years the Big 10 only played within the conference and then one game – usually against Notre Dame. Then the champ, and only the champ, would play the champ of the Pac 10 in the Rose Bowl. A champ who had only played in the Pac 10 conference. So Ohio or Mich or sometimes MS would only have to play 2 or 3 “real” games. And everyone just knew the Big 10 (and the Pac 10) were so great. But it was just incest – inbreeding. If a college team only plays high school teams, they look like the best in the world – until they have to play a real college. And then they are so weak from only playing easy wins.
Meanwhile, the SEC played the Southwest who played the Big 8 (back when they were two conferences) who played the ACC. Florida of the SEC plays every year both Florida State and Miami of the ACC. How many National titles do these schools have? So you have over 30 teams going through trial by fire every year. You lose a lot – but you get tougher and tougher. Why has the SEC won 4 National Championships in a row? Because every year each team plays about 4 games outside the conference and knows if it any good or just a myth. And then the majority of the conference play in bowl games. If you get your teeth kicked in – then you know your “power” is just a false image. So you work to get better.
But the Big 10 got weaker and weaker due to inbreeding. And now the results show. Look how bad Notre Dame now looks once it moved to playing in the real world. The good news – now with 2 divisions, the Big 10 will start playing more and more outside the conference. You will lose a lot of games at first and a lot of national standing. But out of it a few Big 10 will get stronger and become top 10 caliber. And these teams will force the other Big10 teams to also get stronger or die. Plus it will no longer be the Big 2 (Ohio and Mich) conference. But it will take some time and a lot of trial by fire to be forged tough.
You forgot to mention
dropping the qualifying requirements thru the floor and opening up the wallets. No thanks.
“dropping the qualifying requirements thru the floor and opening up the wallets. No thanks.”
You need to check your facts. There is myth about education levels in the SEC that, like the superiority of the Big 10, is in fact wrong. Last year Alabama played for the National Championship with something like 13 post-graduate students. And these were almost all starters not just bench warmers. There NCAA graduation rating goes up every year. The Alabama basketball team has a perfect 1000 rating. How many Big 10 schools can match that. Auburn has more astronauts that almost all the other schools combined. If you play on a grass field, that grass came from Auburn research.
As for money, the Cam Newton deal was all false – he did not take money. But look at Ohio State, who finally won a bowl game against the SEC by using at least 5 paid players. Talk about immoral. Many teams have been caught, but almost all the schools did not know what was happening. Based on the facts that have surfaced, the Ohio State deal is systemic at that school and everyone knew. The reflection of the school is what happens after the violation and does it continue.
Again my original point – you should not be shocked at the big bowl loss. The Big 10 just does not play against the same quality of teams as most of the nation. Its a false part of the Big 10 myth caused by the OLD Big 10 system and beliefs. But things will get much better in the future. The Big 10 now plays in a lot of Bowl games – so you know if you are getting better against the rest of the NCAA. If the teams do not get better, you the fans will demand changes until they do get better. And you are now playing more and more games regular season games outside the conference. Look, MS and Alabama have a home and home in a few years. You know that will be a top TV game. And it will be a good test for were MS is going and will have to help MS recruiting. You know if Alabama wins big they and the rest of the SEC will use in recruiting.
So I guess my real point is every team’s goal is to be the best in the nation. Big 10 teams always believed that a Big 10 Championship reached that goal. And as long as that it your only target and how you rate your team, you will always be disappointed in the bowl results. You need to move the target. Right now if you win the SEC championship, you probably are the best in the nation. The MS and the rest of the Big 10’s job is to change that. That is the target.
Well, sorta
Why has the SEC won 4 National Championships in a row? Because every year each team plays about 4 games outside the conference and knows if it any good or just a myth.
Your larger point is a good one, but here’s something no one mentions: The SEC is a warm-weather conference, and the national championship is awarded via warm-weather bowls. So Bama never has to build a team to win in State College come late November, while Big Ten teams must make that compromise simply to get in. The southern schools are inbred in a different way, but the NCAA money train actually rewards it.
Because every year each team plays about 4 games outside the conference and knows if it any good or just a myth.
You’re joking, right? Games like Ark St, Louisiana-Monroe, and Chattanooga (Auburn)? Or Tennessee Tech, Louisiana-Monroe, and UTEP (Arkansas)? Or McNeese State and (guess who) Louisiana-Monroe (LSU)? Or San Jose State, Duke, and Georgia State (Alabama)?
Florida doesn’t play both FSU and Miami (unless you mean Miami-Ohio). Most SEC teams play one real non-conference game (about the same as most Big Ten teams). A few do better (LSU and Georgia come to mind), but not many.
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