MSU Basketball Recruiting Roundup (Midnight Madness 2011 Edition)
Yeah, it’s been quiet around here because, well, it’s been quiet(ish) in recruiting. MSU still doesn’t have any players committed for the 2013 class and only a small handful of prospects are receiving intense attention. Thus far, it’s looked like there’s Jabari Parker as Plan A then everyone else following behind. However, Midnight Madness is coming up and this is a huge weekend for both football and basketball recruiting. With the end of a busy contact period, MSU coaches have been on the road talking to players, scouting, and securing upcoming visits to East Lansing. The list of uncommitted basketball recruits showing up on Friday is still being finalized but a few players are already confirmed visitors.
The biggest recent news was one long-confirmed Midnight Madness attendee, Demetrius Jackson, enthusiastically jumping on his twitter last night to claim to have received a coveted Michigan State offer. Offers can be conditional so it may not be that Jackson has a fully open door to commit but it wouldn’t be a shock if he did. The MSU staff has followed the Mishawaka point guard about as closely as any ’13 player not named Jabari Parker or James Young. In just the past few weeks, both Dane Fife and Tom Izzo checked in to give Jackson more scouting and must have appreciated what they saw. The apparent end of Dwaun Anderson’s brief time as a Spartan may been the last thing that pushed MSU to offer another guard. With Jackson on campus in a few days, this recruitment could get very interesting in a hurry. Jackson is also heavily involved with Notre Dame but he may have been biding his time waiting for an offer from the Green & White.
More after the jump...
Another confirmed visitor is 6’7” Tyler Wideman, a 2014 center from St. John, Indiana. As an AAU teammate of Drake Harris and high school player alongside Glenn Robinson Jr. (UM verbal), Wideman’s ties to the state of Michigan and its recruits is strong. Definitely a young player developing into his body, Wideman received praise last month from Brian Snow of Scout who said he was “is in much better shape, and is far more skilled than people give him credit for.” With his height, schools are probably going to watch how both his skill set and measurements progress but many schools are taking a look with a list including multiple schools from the Big Ten.
The list of players we know are arriving for Midnight Madness is still pretty small. Part of this is due to the fact that many candidates who MSU would love to get on campus are playing at a USA basketball camp this weekend. This includes big-time MSU targets like Jabari Parker, Tyus Jones, Jahlil Okafor, and Lansing hero Charles “Cha Cha” Tucker. I haven't seen the final word on James Young and Drake Harris. They're two people MSU would certainly welcome on Friday night. The site will be busy through the weekend so I'll add any noteworthy updates to the comment thread.
In more news, MSU is still actively pursuing Dominic Woodson, the 2013 big man from Texas who is now playing at Vermont Academy. Woodson does not look like a classic MSU recruit. It is rare that MSU brings in players from far outside a Midwest geographic circle and the list of athletes recruited out of a prep school is miniscule. While all true, don’t let that dissuade you about MSU’s level of seriousness with Woodson. The Man Himself (aka Tom Izzo) traveled to Vermont Academy last week to pay a visit. Though the previous weeks have been the thick of a Contact Period designed for that purpose, I wouldn’t discount for a moment the gesture of our head coach making this special trip to see a player.
During the Sept. 9 - Oct. 5 contact period, MSU extended another 2014 offer to Jaquan Lyle, a tall, very talented wing/PG from Evansville. Though the 2014 rankings are embryonic, he’s generally considered a Top 10-20 caliber player in another loaded Indiana class. Lyle is a holdout as Tom Crean has already secured early verbals from two of the Hoosier state’s top sophomores, Trey Lyles and James Blackmon. There is some talk that Lyle could be a unique recruit and not follow the long train of players (Zeller, Yogi, Hollowell…) to stay and play for Indiana. However, that pull is still very strong and, at last word, Lyle’s only potential Friday visit was to Hoosier Hysteria in Bloomington.
It’s a good thing Tom Izzo loves football because he’s been watching a lot of it. After attending multiple Hamilton Southeastern football games to see Gary Harris, Izzo has been taking in games at Grand Rapids Christian to watch Drake Harris. Jeff Chaney of Mlive/GR Press had a lengthy feature on Drake’s success on the gridiron. Both he and his coach Don Fellows spoke about Harris’ recruitment and his potential as a dual sport star:
"The good part is, Michigan State has already offered him a scholarship (to play basketball), and coach Izzo encouraged him to play football," Fellows said. "Coach Izzo says he likes the toughness that football instills in kids. He is from Iron Mountain, and shared his football experiences. He is a multi-sport guy, and is one of the few basketball guys that encourages kids to play multiple sports. And he has had a couple of guys that played in the Final Four that played football at Michigan State."
As Harris also says in the article, as only a high school sophomore, his future plans are still in doubt so it’s hard to know how serious this dual-sport talk is. One interpretation is that it’s a smart recruiting tactic to not only appeal to Drake Harris as a fan of MSU basketball but also as a football player at a moment with Spartan football ascending yet in-state allegiances still very much divided with the University of Michigan.
D'vauntes Smith-Rivera has been busy but not with MSU. In a small irony, he is being recruited by Georgetown along with fellow guard Dwaun Anderson. It appears that DSR now has a list cut down to about half a dozen teams with no mention of MSU. Once he was unable to visit before departing for Oak Hill Academy, his involvement with MSU faded. Though once exciting, this recruitment is done for the Spartans.
I can’t do this and not mention the biggest MSU recruiting target since at least Delvon Roe, if not back to Shannon Brown in 2003. Jabari Parker gave a quick yet revealing interview to Reggie Rankin of ESPN ($$). Jabari still lists MSU as one of the schools recruiting him the hardest yet omitted Duke. An absent-minded slip or a telling revelation? I don’t expect much to shake-up this recruitment and the fall 2012 decision. The only thing I could see moving the timetable is if the Parker’s are content that they’ve done enough to get recognition for other Simeon players looking for scholarships. Still, would that be enough to get Jabari to pull the trigger for some optimistic Spartan fans? Probably not. If you think the Gary Harris recruiting scrutiny was bad, just wait for Jabari Parker next year.
Yep, Gary Harris. You may have already caught the big news that Tom Crean and crew self-reported a secondary violation for speaking to Gary directly on the first day such contact was prohibited by the NCAA. Indiana fans are welcome to go round and round about how important this is to a school already on probation for recruiting violations but either Tom Crean was reckless in breaking this rule or he and the people in charge of keeping him straight on such things were momentarily negligent. Either way, the error is unflattering. Eamonn Brennan of ESPN clearly agrees but Dave Telep? Not as much. As a matter of consequence to us with joking aside, I don’t expect this admission to shift anything in the Gary Harris race. Why would this sway the Harris’s away from Indiana? I’ve heard some spin to that regard but it makes no sense to me. At this point, who you want to believe leads for Gary Harris is just based on who you wish to listen to. Despite some heavy IU homer optimism that Hoosier Hysteria will overwhelm Gary, gain his commitment, and prevent him from ever seeing East Lansing for an official, I would bet against it. In this regard, the scheduled OV to Kentucky on Oct. 22 may help MSU. It’s one more element to keep Harris from making a decision with more final steps left to go. In addition, every motion up until now has suggested that the Harris family wants to fully follow the recruiting process and be absolutely thorough. To stop short at the last minute would be a sudden curveball. Regardless of which school Gary Harris chooses, I doubt we know until the second week of November.
Oh, John Beilein and UM are in great shape with Mitch McGary, a potential one-and-done post player considered among the best in the 2012 class. Yes, mgoblog, we are obsessed with you, the sky is falling, and you shall hear no protesting. Is it gametime yet?
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Thanks for the BB content...
we love you man!
by spartanbballfan on Oct 12, 2011 7:49 AM CDT reply actions
Nice work as always, Josh...
some hopeful signs for us. In terms of McGary, what do you make of the apparent brakes being thrown on the entire process, per Telep and others, last week? Is Billy D making a run?
A bit of a headscratcher
Because it did look like he was putting the breaks on and the overwhelming consensus was that he was likely to pick Michigan. However, the word is that he may wait to sign until the late period in April. Shutting down the recruitment in October but not committing to an early decision? Put that together and let me know what you come up with.
"And how much are intangibles worth? 10%? 20%?" - kj@theonlycolors
Jaquan Lyle visit
Josh,
I thought i read somewhere on a website that Lyle was visiting for midnight madness. Did you hear anything about that? Once again great job on the updates. I always look forward to them.
re: Lyle
Mike Pegram of Indiana’s Rivals site stated just a few day ago:
Jaquan Lyle hopes to make Hoosier Hysteria but told me he’s not 100% sure. Said IU is his only potential trip next weekend
I think you can take “Peegs” to the bank on this one. A little disappointing – Lyle is someone you might think would make it to East Lansing instead of Bloomington but it could be a time/proximity issue, too.
That said, we’re talking about the volatile world of recruiting and the weekend plans of teenagers and their families. Some of this will change at the last minute and the drop of a hat.
"And how much are intangibles worth? 10%? 20%?" - kj@theonlycolors
Lyle visit
Josh,
Here is the article for Lyle. I get the feeling MSU has a good chance of getting him but we will see.
Interesting
It is older news. I wonder what happened. Could be something, could be not much.
"And how much are intangibles worth? 10%? 20%?" - kj@theonlycolors
Midnight Madness
Final Four in New Orleans this year, Izzo should come out as Big Chief from Treme.
by jmcarr_21 on Oct 12, 2011 8:17 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
As one of the...
…other four people who watch Treme and follow MSU basketball, I’d be greatly amused. But to the vast majority who don’t know Treme or are unfamiliar with Mardi Gras Indians, (I’d only vaguely heard of the notion before I watched the show) random universe knows what they’d think.
“Daddy, why is Coach Izzo dressed as Liberace and Chief Illiniwek at the same time?” “Son, I don’t know. And how to do you know who Liberace is?”
by witless chum on Oct 12, 2011 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Do we want him to though?
Im still not sold, although Andersons departure does open up a scholarship. I still prefer Parker and James Young or Woodson over Jackson
Lots of DJ thoughts
I’m not positive Jackson can fully write his ticket. Is it possible that he has an offer, contingent on what Gary Harris does? Definitely.
Even if it’s a full offer, I’d spin it to you this way, Loney:
First, for a while lots of Big Ten schools – Indiana, Illinois, UM, MSU – were all recruiting the same batch of point guards (Jalen James, Jackson, Monte Morris, Derrick Walton, etc.). Though I think Walton separated himself as bit by demonstrating that he could really score, you could and still can find plenty of votes for Demetrius as the best of the bunch. There’s lots of great talent out there but Izzo and staff have watched him extensively. If they like him and feel he can contribute, his “low four-star” status doesn’t matter much.
Also, Izzo may be thinking “bird in the hand” time a bit. Parker isn’t deciding for a year, Woodson is no sure thing, Gary Harris is a 50/50 bet, Dwaun Anderson is gone, Derrick Walton is off the board, Drake Harris hasn’t committed as quickly as some thought, and James Young still has to prove he’ll qualify. I’m not saying Izzo is panicking or anything but he might like Jackson enough to be confident adding him right now as a guard at MSU. By this time last year, we already had three 2012 commits. Izzo can take Jackson, hold a spot for Parker, and still add Gary Harris and perhaps another 2013 player.
It’s all fluid. We’ll just have to wait. Demetrius Jackson might still have to as well. This is the fun part.
"And how much are intangibles worth? 10%? 20%?" - kj@theonlycolors
by intrpdtrvlr on Oct 12, 2011 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
It seems to be a commitable offer
Hoops Indiana quotes Jackson as saying "Coach Fife reaffirmed with me Tuesday afternoon that I did have an offer after talking to Coach Izzo last night."
On the other hand he also said of his talk with Izzo that "we were just touching base. This conversation seemed to be more about getting to know each other better and building our relationship."
So if he has a fully commitable offer, which I think he does, I expect him to take it. It’s hard to imagine Izzo offering a kid a scholarship contingent on the decision of another (notoriously non-commital) kid who might not make the call for months.
And yes, I think Izzo wants him. Not in the same way as Parker or Young perhaps, but he has a variety of roles to fill and DSR is apparently no longer on the radar.
Good find, Con-T!
The only thing I’d disagree on is about the contingency. Things like that probably happen pretty often. Sure, it has to be done with tact but Izzo should know Gary Harris’ decision in less than a month. It wouldn’t surprise me to see Izzo balance holding off Jackson until he knows exactly what GH is doing.
Then again, you could be absolutely right and Jackson is a Spartan by Monday. With Anderson out and DSR off the table, the offer makes a lot more sense.
"And how much are intangibles worth? 10%? 20%?" - kj@theonlycolors
by intrpdtrvlr on Oct 12, 2011 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks for coming thru
This is much better than a dissertation.
I’m anxious for some ‘13 commits because I want to know who to stalk on the AAU circuit next summer.
Now that Anderson won’t be coming back we know there will be at least 2 schollies available again. I still think they need a big. If Woodson doesn’t work out who else is out there?(I don’t consider Parker a big)
If they’re serious about Jackson, what does that mean for that Tyus kid in ‘14?
PG would be covered with TT, DJ as well as Denzel and who knows, maybe Gary Harris too.
So many possibilities.
Thanks for the post. It’s a wonderful time of year.
"the game is out there, and it's play or get played. That simple" - Omar
I have an unpopular opinion on this
But I think you can count Parker as a big. I know all his wing skills and his future in the NBA as a “3.” However, he’s been working in the post plenty. He’s already 6’8, 225. Give him two more years before he’s a college freshman and I bet he plays a lot of PF at a school like MSU. I’m not saying Izzo wouldn’t take Parker and a another true post like Woodson but Jabari could do a lot in that role.
Think of this possible 2013 line-up:
PG: Keith Appling (Sr.)
SG: Gary Harris (So.)
SF: Branden Dawson (Jr.)
PF: Jabari Parker (Fr.)
C: Adreian Payne (Sr) or Matt Costello (So.)
"And how much are intangibles worth? 10%? 20%?" - kj@theonlycolors
I knew things would pick up
http://twitter.com/#!/JeffRabjohns/status/124264560789168128
http://Rivals.com 2014 No. 9 Cliff Alexander (Chicago Curie) will attend Michigan State’s Midnight Madness, per his coach.
Alexander has a serious list with lots of good programs after him. Great visitor pick-up for MSU.
"And how much are intangibles worth? 10%? 20%?" - kj@theonlycolors
Can't hurt
I’m of the mind that Chicago kids are longshots for MSU but if you can get them on campus and make an impression, there’s at least a chance it can pay off.
"the game is out there, and it's play or get played. That simple" - Omar
Looks like Whitney Young's Paul White is coming along with him
Another Top 25 2014 player. Small forward with excellent size. Lots and lots of buzz about him over the past few months.
"And how much are intangibles worth? 10%? 20%?" - kj@theonlycolors
Bo Zeigler
Josh any word on Bo Zeigler at all? I know Iowa has offered along with Indiana now…Michigan is working it’s way back in.
by MichiganPrepStars on Oct 13, 2011 9:45 AM CDT reply actions
Indiana fans were looking forward to a visit
and seemed to believe they could wrangle a commitment if lucky. However, that visit didn’t materialize.
I haven’t heard much about Zeigler. He isn’t someone, re: MSU, that I follow really closely. My hunch is that he is not a future Spartan.
"And how much are intangibles worth? 10%? 20%?" - kj@theonlycolors
Which
you have to right to mock me over when he shows up to East Lansing on Friday and commits or something.
"And how much are intangibles worth? 10%? 20%?" - kj@theonlycolors
For anyone who didn't catch it
DSR is announcing a decision on Saturday between Louisville, Memphis, NC State. and Georgetown.
"And how much are intangibles worth? 10%? 20%?" - kj@theonlycolors
I never thought he was
It just didn’t add up.
"the game is out there, and it's play or get played. That simple" - Omar
I forgot about this guy
In regard to Anderson’s schollie I wrote that it’s too late to get in on any other 2012 kids but Javontae Hawkins is still out there.
Josh, any theories as to why MSU still doesn’t seem to be interested?
It just seems odd that they’ve moved on from Flint kids.
Although I think he went to a prep school this year so that may just answer my own question.
Oh yeah, and what about this Tony Farmer kid that was up for a visit couple weeks back according to Comparoni.
Thanks.
"the game is out there, and it's play or get played. That simple" - Omar
SB, I don’t think the need at wing is nearly big enough to pull the trigger on Hawkins. He’s a solid player but that would be a reach for MSU. I honestly just don’t believe he’s at that level. He has interested from good schools – USF, Cincinnati, Iowa, Arizona St. – but they’re all a significant step down from MSU.
Farmer will be interesting to watch. There are a lot of those ’13 big wing players, some of whom have committed now (Beachem, Irvin). With Young still out there as well as Bo Zeigler and Parker in a similar role, Farmer might have to wait.
"And how much are intangibles worth? 10%? 20%?" - kj@theonlycolors
by intrpdtrvlr on Oct 14, 2011 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Farmer
At one point Farmer had been claiming an MSU offer, but that appears to have been a misunderstanding. Still, his stock went way up during the last AAU season and I think MSU is still interested. But, as Josh says, it’s a crowded group at the moment.
Bo Zeigler
Is he Trey’s little brother or cousin or something?
And if so, wouldn’t that give CMU a leg up?
Thanks
A cousin
I don’t think playing for your uncle is the same as playing for your dad. Looks like Bo can go bigger than CMU and is going to do it.
"And how much are intangibles worth? 10%? 20%?" - kj@theonlycolors

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