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A "Heroic" Effort - UNC 67, MSU 55

CORONADO, CA - NOVEMBER 11:  Draymond Green #10 of the Michigan State Spartans grabs a rebound in the game against the North Carolina Tar Heels during the Quicken Loans Carrier Classic on board the USS Carl Vinson on November 11, 2011 in Coronado, California.  (Photo by Harry How/Getty Images)

Approaching a season in which MSU’s expectations were uncharacteristically low, what many Spartan fans wanted was a basketball team who played high-effort, cohesive basketball as a unit, a team whose demeanor and attitude made you excited to stand behind them no matter the odds.  I’m thrilled to say that we got exactly that last night.  No, Michigan State did not win the game and, during the second half, never really got that close.  However, with serious foul-trouble and a true freshman point guard pressed into extended service, this game was much closer than many (myself included) had expected.  MSU also got caught up on a night in which John Henson looked every bit the high lottery pick he's been heralded as.  He scored 12 points from the field, added 7 rebounds, and no one missed his absurd 9 blocks.  As the announcers accurately told us all night, that block number doesn't even reflect the number of shots he altered.

Without a doubt, the key stretch of the game was the end of the first half when the fouls really caught up to Michigan State.  Both Nix and Payne (and an injured Dawson) sat on the bench at the same time and a noticeable drop appeared in the MSU frontcourt.  The offensive rebounds that had been vital to taxing UNC now became defensive rebounds in the hands of Zeller, Henson, and Barnes. A game that had rested at 17-12 MSU at 10 minutes unraveled as UNC extended a their run into a 43-27 lead at the top of the second half. In a contest that was mostly silver lining for me, I’m encouraged by this.  What it tells us is that both Nix and Payne have improved to the point that they’re major pluses when on the floor against the number one team in the country. 

 

Now, I’m a bit more of a novice on the Four Factors chart as opposed to the Con-T and the infamous KJ.  However, I think I can interpret this one to confirm what any fan watching the game already knew: Michigan State shot terribly and North Carolina made a whole lot of free throws.  Appropriately, that was the story.  In the mythic world of "could have’s," if MSU had made more of their shots (especially 3’s – 2/20 – egads!) and kept UNC off the line, we might be talking about a major upset this morning.   

For the rest of the recap, I'm going Clint Eastwood, and I don't mean The Gorillas

Star-divide

The Good

  • Draymond Green - Day Day led everyone on the floor with an epic 18 rebounds.  Against a team of UNC's size, length, and athleticism, that is even more impressive.  Normally going 6-19 would keep you out of the "Good" catagory but that was above par for the team's shooting on Friday night. 
  • Branden Dawson - When the whole of the Spartan fanbase gasped as Dawson lay grimacing on the floor, it wasn't merely because of the potential of what his season might be.  In the first minutes of the game, Dawson had already demonstrated when made him such a prized recruit. Again, against a team like UNC, he was a major factor getting offensive rebounds with 4 of his total 7 coming off of MSU misses.  He finished with 10 points in his opening night as a Spartan. 
  • Travis Trice – Admit it – despite all the positive press, you were worried that the team was about to fall apart when forced to play a true freshman point guard for extended minutes against the No. 1 team in the country.  I suspect even Coach Izzo was unsure as Travis was one of the last subs to come on to replace a starter. Instead, Trice lived up to his hype (mostly).  Though there were a few dubious passes and ill-advised plays, Trice looked surprisingly poised against North Carolina.  His confident ball-handling allowed him to steady the MSU offensive and even help us make our second half run.  It was clear what Trice has to work on as a freshman but that will come in time.  On Friday night, there was no better baptism by fire to gain experience.
  • The Centers (Derrick Nix and Adreian Payne) - From my view, both players showed great improvement from last season.  Payne responded positively to being inserted into the starting line-up.  He had a knack for getting to the free throw line, making 4 out of his 6 attempts.  Building off of a dunk on a break and one outstanding post move, he finished with 10 points in only 11 minutes. Nix did the dirty work and was part of the o-board crew.  His new found quickness allowed him to grab 9 total rebounds (4 offensive) and stay in position on defense.  The fact that he earned 17 minutes against a running team like Carolina is a real credit.  
  • Rebounding - Already covered in the individual accounts but it deserves repeating.  MSU outrebounded UNC 49-34.  Much of rebounding is effort-driven and this gap is evidence that the 2011-2012 Michigan State squads wants to play hard and win.  If they maintain that intensity, MSU might really be able to do a number on a team with less in the arsenal than North Carolina. 

Yep, I know that was a lot of "Good's" but I think this was a very solid game with a lot of positive things to take away.

The Bad

  • Alex Gauna - "Bad" may be harsh for Alex's first game but there's no doubt that the team missed something when he was forced to play a dozen minutes.  His contribution to the statsheet was minimal, logging in with two missed shots and no rebounds. In response, he sat for much (all?) of the second half.  In Delvon Roe's absence, Gauna will need to play often this year especially in situations of foul trouble.  MSU will need more from him than they got tonight.  
  • Fouls - We can argue a great deal (Izzo already did) about any biases in the officiating but the fact remains that UNC did a great job of drawing fouls and Michigan State failed to adjust quickly enough to the way the game was being called. This problem ground MSU's first half momentum to a halt and erased their small lead. 
  • Austin Thornton - For my money, Austin wasn't that bad tonight but I think I'm in the minority.  He wasn't a primary liability on defense and often showed a quickness in getting to the ball during sets.  In a night when MSU really struggled, it was hard to single him out as the main shooting culprit.  That said, going 1-8 might be okay for Travis Trice, a true freshman playing on an aircraft carrier.  However, a redshirt senior with two Final Fours to his credit has to give MSU better than 0-7 on a night like this.  Considering this inability to shoot well in games has long been a concern with Austin, MSU fans are still wondering if it will ever get turned around.

The Ugly

  • Keith Appling - There is no one I selfishly want to see take a bigger step forward this year than Keith Appling.  Keith was recruited out of high school as a major scorer but carved out a niche as a defensive stopper during his freshman year. This year, the spotlight has been on how he adjusts to his role as a point guard.  For the first night, let's hit the recent button.  Keith's 5 fouls came in only 19 minutes while hitting 2 of 7 shots with no assists and 4 TOs.  This is a game best left forgotten.  Everyone will be watching to see if he slides back to the "2" spot with Trice moving into the starting line-up. On a positive note, he attacked and got to the basket effectively. On different night, he may be able to adjust and pull-up or at least get a few more 50/50 calls his way. 
  • Shooting - The horror! You can look at the raw stats, the tempo-free, consult a ouija board, read Heart of Darkness, it doesn't matter.  That was U-G-L-Y.  Going into the season, we suspected shooting would not be the team's strength but 22/72 (30%) and 2/20 from deep will not cut it against most opponents. Let's blame the ocean. 

Con-T will have more on this later but, with Duke sneaking out with a one-point victory over Belmont, MSU has some reason to be optimistic in their next big match-up at MSG on Tuesday night.  With a schedule like this, 1-1 would be an great way to start the season. 

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Encouraged and excited!

Fun game to watch because we know Izzo’s teams get substantially better through the year, Deputy Dawg’s don’t.

I’m in agreement with many, it does seem baffling that AT plays so many minutes. I’m not upset with him, not his fault, but he’s just not athletic enough to make the plays. Kind of like me at 40 playing against 25 year olds a couple years ago. The things I used to do, and thought I could do, I could do no more…the game was just a little too fast for me at that point. AT does some decent things but I think he’s a liability because he’s just not quite athletic enough.

I love what I see in Trice, true point guard that sees the floor and how it’s developing. He’s a guy that can manipulate the movement of others when he’s handling the ball and put people in scoring positions/make them better. Great get for Izzo and hopefully we can move him into the starting spot pushing Appling back into the 2 guard spot that is more natural for him.

Green looked pretty good last night but his size/athleticism was exposed a bit last night against the longer/faster Heels. I’d really love to see him develop a shake and bake move a la Steve Smith. Smith was similarly gifted as a player/athlete but needed and used people with that move. Green actually did a move similar to that later in the game last night.

This team is going to develop into something very good if they stay healthy. Fun group to watch and so much potential. Nobody will want to play us in March. Nobody.

by Drew Perkins on Nov 12, 2011 10:26 AM CST reply actions  

Here's the issue

if you put Trice in at PG then who backs him up? Applings at the two already so Brandon Wood is our backup PG? Doubt we’ll see it. Keith was a PG for Team USA, I think he’ll be fine even though the offense definitely runs better with Trice.

by Loneytunes on Nov 12, 2011 3:05 PM CST up reply actions  

I hope Thornton...

doesn’t become the scapegoat for everything. Guys, he’s playing because Byrd is still finding his way.

Everyone loves the idea of Byrd raining threes, but he hasn’t played basketball in basically 2 seasons except for limited action the last 6 weeks.

Lot of positives. We figure out our guard rotation, we’ll be pretty good.

by rook34 on Nov 12, 2011 10:38 AM CST reply actions  

I agree on Thornton

He’s taken on a bad rap. He’s the equivalent of the struggling starting QB. Whoever is on the bench must be better, right? However, I think 0-7 is enough to get you sent to the “Bad” category.

"And how much are intangibles worth? 10%? 20%?" - kj@theonlycolors

by intrpdtrvlr on Nov 12, 2011 11:18 AM CST up reply actions  

Whoa

Josh on the recaps now.
Switch hitter are you? – Yoda

Not so fast on being optimistic because of a 1pt win, Belmont is pretty good.
And Duke shot lights out from 3, Rivers draws a lot of fouls. He may foul out the whole team in 10 minutes in what will certainly be a made for Dickie V special bouquet to Coach K on his record setting night. I’m not going to say anymore. As for the “game”.

Easy on Gauna, He didn’t embarrass himself as he certainly wasn’t expecting to get that many minutes in that location in front of that audience. He’ll be ready now. He did just as much with his 12 min as AT did with TWENTY FOUR?!

Wood is too passive right now. I hope that changes.
Payne and Nix were the best on the floor early. The refs nipped that in the bud quickly.
Nix and Green need to go to the pump fake store and stock up.
Dawson=Spartan, nice debut
Keith needs to show he can beat one on one D consistently at this level whether he plays 1 or 2. By this point we knew Lucas could. I’m kind of stunned to not know he can yet.

Lastly, I hope the lack of BK minutes was not a redshirt clue. This team will need Byrd and BK. BK if for no other reason than as emergency PG. Foul trouble won’t be exclusive to last night as I’m sure we’ll find out on Tuesday.

"Brick killed a guy! Did you throw a trident?"

by spartyball on Nov 12, 2011 10:51 AM CST reply actions  

on BK

Izzo’s clearly waiting to find out if you’re correct, but he’d rather not use him I’d imagine.

by Loneytunes on Nov 12, 2011 3:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Re: Appling

I saw him beat guys one on one three times. They just led to three charges instead of six points

by Chunkydonut on Nov 12, 2011 4:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Right

what I meant was beat one on one defense and score consistently
Those charges were likely And 1’s at Pershing.
He has to adjust to how refs call charge/block fouls.

"Brick killed a guy! Did you throw a trident?"

by spartyball on Nov 12, 2011 8:23 PM CST up reply actions  

In his defense

the refs were calling everything a charge, to the point where our guys started flopping in the second half and were getting the same calls. Yes, he should have adjusted his game but he was 2-3 fouls in before it was clear that that’s how they were going to call it.

by TheCrestedHelm on Nov 14, 2011 4:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Not everything

Only when contact was initiated by a Spartan.
In the second half they were trying to balance out the calls some but the disparity was huge in the first half.
I’m afraid for what we might see tomorrow night.
Duke+Coach K+Bobby Knight+record+Dickie V=over/under on foul disparity of… 20?

"Brick killed a guy! Did you throw a trident?"

by spartyball on Nov 14, 2011 6:05 PM CST up reply actions  

If Trice moves to the 1

and Appling moves to the 2, whose odd man out? Wood cannot rebound on the offensive boards like Dawson.

Also, despite the loss , its pretty evident that the pieces are in place. The youth definitely showed but it was obvious that raw talent is there for this team to make some noise.

by jmcarr_21 on Nov 12, 2011 10:54 AM CST reply actions  

I think you answered your own question

Trice, Appling, Dawson, Green, and Nix/Payne would be the line-up. Wood first off the bench.

by spartanmike on Nov 12, 2011 11:08 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm Pumped

This was fun. Yeah we lost but I found a lot to like. Trice was cool-headed for a freshmen…in his first game…under the spotlights against the #1 team in the country…on an aircraft carrier…in front of the president…wow. He’s going to be legit.

My heart stopped when Dawson went down, but I was glad to see him come right back in and drain a long two. That made me say “Oh he’s THAT kind of player,” toughness and grit, he’s going to be a hell of a Spartan.

Green looked like a leader, while he may not be quite as athletic as some of the other guys, he showed his characteristic court awareness with rebounding and a nice fingerflick putback. He also had a nice thunderous dunk in the second half. BTW, anyone notice that he was rocking Delvon’s number? Nice homage to his boy.

The upset would have been awesome, but in all honesty I think I want the game on Tuesday vs. Duke more than this one. Fun Fact: we’re the first team in 30 years to open the season against UNC and then Duke. That takes balls and I love Tom Izzo.

Enough rambling, Spartan FB is on TV. Go Green!!

by StickyGreen on Nov 12, 2011 11:10 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

loved Day-Day rockin #10

and felt real bad for delvon not being able to play in this game.

by one23 on Nov 12, 2011 12:42 PM CST up reply actions  

If Delvon was playing

I think we honestly could’ve won, just because we could have run a small lineup without Thornton and Gauna playing nearly as much.

by Loneytunes on Nov 12, 2011 3:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Leadership moments when I think of Draymond Green....

- Talking to the team after the ’09 UNC tournament loss when he was just a freshman
- Suggesting the sleep-over at the Breslin last year
- Now wearing #10 for Roe last night (also saw the post about him and UNC giving up jerseys to military)

I’m sure there are many others!

by spartanbballfan on Nov 12, 2011 1:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Great recap

Thanks for that. Deadlines yesterday + 4pm start in the west coast = missed game. Solid picture with this, though.

But… KJ is “infamous”?

by DP99 on Nov 12, 2011 4:56 PM CST reply actions  

As in "more than famous."

"And how much are intangibles worth? 10%? 20%?" - kj@theonlycolors

by intrpdtrvlr on Nov 12, 2011 7:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Can't a man make a Three Amigos reference in 2011?

If that definition is good enough for Ned Nederlander, it’s good enough for me.

"And how much are intangibles worth? 10%? 20%?" - kj@theonlycolors

by intrpdtrvlr on Nov 15, 2011 12:15 PM CST up reply actions  

How about "notorious"

Still indicates that he was well-known on here, but gives a little flavor of danger, too, IMO.

by MSUDersh on Nov 14, 2011 6:57 PM CST up reply actions  

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