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Victory! - Michigan State 76, Texas Southern 41

Michigan State topped 76-41 Texas Southern in what I can call a joyous victory.  Basketball was clearly fun tonight for the Spartans with players smiling and celebrating throughout the game.  The camaraderie and smart basketball was reflected in the bunching at the top for team scoring.  Four players hit double digits - Dawson (13), Green (12), Trice (11), and Payne (10).  MSU’s best teams of recent years haven’t always been known for blowouts and this was a nice exception. You don't want to make too much of one game but enough happened out there to keep fans feeling good about the prospects of not just on-the-court success but off-court harmony this season. 

One of the biggest stories for me was Tom Izzo’s aggression in trying out different line-ups and roles.  With the intense spotlight and daunting opponents of MSU’s first two games, there was little opportunity to take risks and experiment.  With a large lead that never wavered, Coach Izzo worked players in unlikely combinations and new circumstances.  The first sign that something unique was happening was Russell Byrd’s early entry into the game as a post player against a smaller TSU line-up eight minutes in.  A lot was made of the upper-body work Byrd had done starting during the end of his high school career and the possibility that he could put the "forward" in "wing-forward."  I don’t know that new PF Byrd made a huge impact but that wasn’t the point; it was seeing him tried out in the role that stood out.

The real interest was in negotiating the backcourt.  Keith Appling looked much more comfortable whether running the team or playing alongside Travis Trice.  I thought he was playing faster and lacked the uncertainty and hesitation that had been holding his game back.  At one point, MSU ran with Brandon Wood, Trice, and Appling all at once.  Playing alongside Draymond Green, there were four players who could immediately attack off the defensive glass and push the break.  The ability to attack and also move the ball in the halfcourt was a major feature throughout the game.  The result was a surprisingly hot shooting night with MSU notching a 54% eFG rate (pops out in the Four Factors) and hitting a respectable (by comparison) 33% of their threes.  To really mix it up, Brandon Kearney played  in the first half and closed the game by running the point himself.  It looks like Kearney’s solid week of practice paid off in earning him minutes and trust. 

We should also mention the defense which held Texas Southern to only 41 points in a 72 possession game.  This wasn’t some MSU vs. Wisconsin 52-46 slugfest and that makes the defensive effort look even more impressive.  Adreian Payne picked up two blocks and the team as a whole accounted for 10 steals.

Here’s the Four Factors and a few player bullets after the jump...

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  • Draymond Green - 12pts, 11 rebounds, 6 assists, 2/3 3pts - This was a classic Day Day game.  The ability of other Spartans to hit shots, run their sets, and make plays kept Green was forcing to much in this one. This was an early season reminder of how good he can be with a strong supporting cast.  I was particularly impressed at his rebounding.  I know he can do it but do he him so often in the right position and coming up with the ball was impressive.
  • Keith Appling - This was definitely the best night of Keith's sophomore campaign.  He kept away from the foul trouble that inhibited his first two games and turned in a full 29 minutes performance. He trailed only Green with 4 assists and seemed to find some of his deep shooting touch again.  
  • Travis Trice - Again, I had the "we're lucky to have this guy" feeling.  Trice busted out his ace shooting ability hitting half of his six 3pts shots.  He wasn't afraid to stand behind the line and fire from NBA range either.  In the category of things stats don't convey, Trice simply looks the part at point guard and exudes a confidence rare for a freshman. I'm looking forward to him being an integral part of running this team for a long time.  
  • Derrick Nix - No. 25 rebounded from that atrociously rough game against Duke and hit all of his three FGs.  When Nix is on, he has great post moves and court sense.  At times, he even rivals Day Day as a passer out of the post (2 assists on Friday).  If Derrick can put more Jekyll and less Hyde in his nightly showings, he'll be a major contributor. 
  • There's definitely more that could be said.  Dawson continues to look like a pro.  Adreian Payne's development has been impressive leading to last night's 10 and 10 double-double and Austin Thornton played well enough to hold off cries for Keith Nichol or Andrew Maxwell for at least a couple of days.*** 

    MSU has a stretch of highly winnable contests coming up with a three game run of Arkansas-Little Rock, Milwaukee, and EMU.  If MSU can continue to build chemistry and confidence while Izzo learns his team, Michigan State could have a real shot against Florida State a week from Wednesday.

    ***Joke! Joke! I am not comparing AT to Kirk Cousins.  However, comments about him remind me of people's attitude towards struggling QBs - the guy behind him MUST be better, right? 

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    Why is there no mention of the 18 turnovers.

    If we average 18 turnovers against stronger opponents that usually results in a loss. I cannot understand why we average so many turnovers year after year. I hope they average less than 10 TO’s by the time March rolls on.

    by spartynation on Nov 19, 2011 9:15 AM CST reply actions  

    You have 6 new players...

    And the returnees are almost all in new roles. There are going to be turnovers while people figure things out. The turnovers dropped last season as it went on. They will this year too. Let them figure it out.

    by rook34 on Nov 19, 2011 9:18 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

    <10?

    Not going to happen. Wisconsin’s famous for not turning it over, they play an obscenely slow pace, and they barely stay under 10.

    The number needs to come down, but a realistic target is more on the order of 12 or 13. And as rook said, early in the season with as many new faces as we have (and the ones that aren’t new playing in different roles than they’re used to), turnovers are going to happen.

    I've got this terrible pain in all the diodes down my left-hand side.
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    by SpartanDan on Nov 19, 2011 9:29 AM CST up reply actions  

    I've given...

    …up worrying about turnovers, they’re obviously a bug in Izzo’s system that are going to happen.

    by witless chum on Nov 19, 2011 9:38 AM CST up reply actions  

    Turnovers

    Turnovers have been a problem since 2001 (excluding 08-09) for some reason we struggle with that year in and year out…most them are just mental errors but we usually make up for it with rebounding and defense. However, if we ever had a team that didn’t make stupid turnovers we would dominate.

    This team seems like they are a lot closer and having a lot more fun than last years team already. At least Wood, Appling, and Trice attack the basket and don’t park there ass at the 3 point line like Durrell did 90% of the time.

    Dawson is LEGIT we haven’t had a wing this strong who could finish through contact since…I don’t even know when.

    by MSUMC25 on Nov 19, 2011 9:51 AM CST reply actions  

    I wonder how much of the other factors on offense

    can be attributed to the same factors that lead us to all those turnovers. A team that likes to get out on the break is very likely to suffer on the defensive glass, for instance; perhaps the sets that we run are relatively high risk of turnovers but more likely to provide an open look (or get the rebound if a shot is missed), and a serious reduction in turnovers (beyond just player improvement) is only possible at the expense of damaging parts of the offense that do work well.

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    by SpartanDan on Nov 19, 2011 10:25 AM CST up reply actions  

    Yeah we haven't had a wing like that since

    all the way back in the spring of 2010 when Raymar Morgan was on the team. That was soooo long ago. But seriously Dawson really looks good for a freshman.

    Turnovers – they’re a function of the system. No-one save maybe Izzo knows why but our good teams manage to put up impressive offensive numbers in spite of them.

    I’m a little concerned that we keep losing the free throw rate battle as definitively as we are. I don’t mind being at a slight deficit there – it’s probably the least consequential of the four factors – but three games in and we’ve lost that battle twice by a large margin and once by a significant one.

    We were a bit down as a commentariat after the UNC and Duke losses, but those two teams are thought to be (to the extent that anyone knows anything this early) better than virtually anyone else on our schedule except Ohio State. A win against FSU and we’ll probably all feel quite a bit better about this team. We’re bound to get better as the year progresses and the players start playing together better. I like the fact that we can put more size and depth on the floor than last year, even if it’s inexperienced size and depth. Our rebounding has been really outstanding. If we can get the shots to start falling I think it’ll be a pretty good year.

    by TheCrestedHelm on Nov 19, 2011 2:52 PM CST up reply actions  

    Yeah but I just don't see why Izzo can't change the system

    just a little bit, so that turnovers don’t happen because I guarantee that Izzo isn’t trying to lose possessions.

    by Loneytunes on Nov 19, 2011 10:16 PM CST up reply actions  

    Insanity

    expecting team MSU basketball team to have a low turnover season. Keeping them reasonable is a win.

    by TMadison25 on Nov 19, 2011 10:50 AM CST reply actions  

    Trice

    Well said about Trice. Loving what I see so far.

    by TMadison25 on Nov 19, 2011 10:51 AM CST reply actions  

    Yes

    the guy(s) behind AT are definitely better
    I will say that he does manage to find his way to some rebounds more often than not.

    At 0-2 winning was the most important take away from the game. It’s good to win again.
    I wasn’t expecting a very sharp performance because of all the travel the team has just endured with not much practice time. I don’t think I saw a sharp performance either, the opponent was a truly easy one that had no chance of capitalizing on numerous mistakes.

    I’ll go on a limb and say this team won’t win many games with 11 pts combined from Appling-Wood.
    I’m not even sure how a team racks up so many turnovers against a zone defense. Every player with more than 5 min of court time had at least one save for BK.
    Free throw shooting was also bad.
    I know Dawson picked up 2 early fouls but I wish he would’ve been left in to get the experience of playing with 2. There was no reason to sit him for the half as this was a night for experimenting. He’s going to need to play 30 min sooner than later. He’s the best player. Gotta get experience playing though adversity and fatigue.
    I like Trice. I really like the range on his J. He’s a bit of a gambler though. Tries to make plays he made in HS. I’m sure he’ll keep improving.

    I expect things to get better with more practice time which they won’t have before the game tomorrow.
    Also, I’m liking BK. He looks like he’s listened to what the coaches are telling him he needs to do to get on the floor. He also brings versatility which is exactly the kind of player the team didn’t have last season. I’m thinking he might move in front of Byrd for PT because of defense.

    "Brick killed a guy! Did you throw a trident?"

    by spartyball on Nov 19, 2011 11:32 AM CST reply actions  

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