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"When the Eagles are Silent" - Michigan State 72, Eastern Michigan 40

Michigan State performed what could fairly be called a "hurtin’" on the court today, beating Eastern Michigan 72-40.  Despite my best attempt to manufacture drama and Con-T’s reminder about the greater powers of the MAC, Eastern didn’t have the firepower to overcome Michigan State’s defense, athleticism, and ball movement.  Michigan State regained a double-digit lead with five minutes left in the second half and held it for the rest of the game.  An 8-2 run would help EMU pull within 13 in the second half but that was as close as it would be.

Michigan State continues to rely on two staples that will help the team win many games this year – defense and rebounding.   Eastern Michigan came into the game averaging just a flea’s whisker over 40% in field goal percentage and MSU held them to 28.6%.  EMU did themselves no favors by going 5-13 when sent to the line.  Six different Spartans registered a block and that checks with what was overall a solid effort of team defense.  There was still a mix-up or two typical of this new squad but it looks like MSU continues to defend well enough to keep them in most games.  The head man himself came away pleased.  Tom Izzo said after the game, "I've been so impressed with us defensively, and I'm never impressed with us defensively." 

Off the glass, Draymond Green has established himself as an elite rebounder and pulled down 13 today.  That’s his fourth time in double-digits in a season that started with 18 against North Carolina.  Adreian Payne was the other big help with 8.  If you scan the box score, it reveals a team-wide rebounding effort. Everyone who saw time was credited with a rebound and 10 Spartans got at least 2 for a total of 45 against the Eagle’s 25.

Four Factors and player bullets after the jump...

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To fill in blanks, the Four Factors graph does a good job of expressing this one. As is usually the case, MSU was not outstanding in terms of taking care of the basketball. In that stat, EMU and MSU were close. Until something drastically changes, that reality (as they say) "lives here." However, in the other facets of the game, MSU dominated. They shot the ball above their average (tempo-free or raw), attacked the boards, and scored FTs effectively. It was especially nice to see those freebies fall.

  • Keith Appling – After the game, Keith Appling received some high praise from Coach Izzo – "Keith pushed the ball as well as anybody has pushed it maybe since Mateen Cleaves."  Rumors of Keith’s demise as the primary point guard and move off the ball may have been premature.  There were moments this afternoon when he was unstoppable. Appling drove to the basket with flash and finished consistently.  He did all this while never turning the ball over and getting five assists.  Keith also shook off his free throw problems and hit 5 of 6. As we all know, Appling is one of the major factors who could elevate this team to a higher level.  Tonight was another step.
  • Draymond Green – I like basketball-to-football comparisons.  Green reminds me of Kirk Cousins a bit, too.  He’s firmly established himself as a leader, playmaker, and vital part of the team.  Perfect?  No (0/2 from 3, 2 TOs), but if you’re not convinced yet, you never will be.
  • Adreian Payne – Our other sophomore is connected with Keith Appling in that his success could either push MSU to another level of play or help hold it back. If you allow that this is only the beginning of his sophomore season, I’m continually encouraged by Payne’s performance.  Adreian was banged around a bit today and showed the effects of having to fight for his rebounds but he still grabbed 8.  His play on offense was efficient, scoring 12, and we’re seeing less and less of those moments where Payne turns into a lost defensive liability.  It’s a toss-up between a handful of players right now but could AP emerge as the #3 scorer behind Green and Appling? The over-enthusiastic fan in me is starting to see the first inklings of a player who could be an early entrant to the draft. 
  • Alex Gauna - Wow, I whiffed on this one.  I thought this would be a good match-up for No. 2 but he didn't make an appearance until the game was out of reach.  It appears that Gauna is falling victim right now to MSU's tightening bench.  Unless there's foul trouble or the perfect opponent, Alex is out of the regular rotation.
  • Russell Byrd - In contrast to Gauna, Izzo seems dedicated to keeping Byrd going and finding a spot for him.  Byrd received double-digit minutes for the second time this season, again playing some on the wing and some in the post.  This isn't surprising as the team continues to struggle from outside and Izzo looks for more offensive output from the wing.  His single three of the day was a reminder of how sweet it can look when everything is clicking.

The next game is the Big Ten-ACC challenge against Florida State.  MSU's defense is strong enough to keep them in any contest but can they find the points of their own?  How are you feeling about Wednesday?  At home, I think MSU gets out with a win.

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I hope Payne doesn't enter early...

He’s fun to watch. I’m not too worried about him leaving after this year though, he still needs to work on his stroke a little bit and needs another year or two of conditioning to be ready to bang in the NBA.

Also hopefully Byrd gets going. He needs to find some confidence, by the end of the year he needs to be an 8 ppg player who can grab a couple boards and play solid D.

Gauna just isn’t really going to be a major contributor in my opinion. He has skills, but I just see him being a Jason Andreas type in a year or two. He can give some solid minutes and score a couple but he won’t be able to start. Not with Nix, Payne, Costello, Kaminski, Byrd and hopefully Jabari Parker and Jahlil Okafor on the front lines.

by Loneytunes on Nov 27, 2011 11:52 PM CST reply actions  

And Payne made a jump hook!

I had to rewind my DVR just to make sure I saw it right. But it was real, and it was fantastic.

"It was worth it. Every needle, every dose of medicine that I've taken. That's why you play the game. A chance to be on a Final Four team, a chance to win championships." Delvon Roe

by Ducking Delvon on Nov 28, 2011 8:40 AM CST up reply actions  

I noticed that

If he can add that to his repertoire consistently then he’s gonna be a scary player to defend

by Loneytunes on Nov 28, 2011 9:37 AM CST up reply actions  

The entire sequence

Highlighted how much Payne has improved in a year. After making the jump hook he got back on defense, hedged decisively on a ball screen, recovered just as decisively and was able to block out his man for the defensive board. That kind of sequence gave him all kinds of problems last year and now he looks comfortable. That will get him minutes.

by Con-T on Nov 28, 2011 11:40 AM CST up reply actions  

+1

"And how much are intangibles worth? 10%? 20%?" - kj@theonlycolors

by intrpdtrvlr on Nov 28, 2011 2:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Hopefully more minutes than Nix

While I think Nix has great offensive potential, he has fantastic positioning and some sweet moves (although he really needs to work on his hands, both in receiving passes and putting the ball in the hoop), his athleticism just is nowhere near that of Payne, or from what I’ve seen of him Costello. Look at him jump, he must have a 2 inch vertical.

Its looking more and more like Nix is going to end up a secondary inside option to Payne when they’re both on the court, and I expect Payne to play many more minutes than him. I still think Nix can be a 6-8 ppg player, but if Payne continues to develop the discrepancy in talent level is just too great.

by Loneytunes on Nov 28, 2011 4:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't think it will happen

I’d like to see that too but Coach Izzo is really high on Nix lately for his defensive play.
I can only think he’s not as high on Payne. Payne is clearly the better shot blocker and rebounder and has a higher ceiling on offense but Nix must be way ahead in help and recovery on defense.

"Brick killed a guy! Did you throw a trident?"

by spartyball on Nov 28, 2011 5:34 PM CST up reply actions  

FSU is good, but we should beat them

Our offense is ugly, but a large part of it comes off of grindy/effort plays this season (eg. most effective off of ORs and fast breaks). In other words we can “find” points even if we cannot reliably create them out of standard offensive sets. It seems unlikely that FSU could do much to “disrupt” that part of our offense beyond being efficient offensively themselves, which doesn’t seem to be their strength.

I anticipated a slow paced ugly game. If we get to 58-60ish points we should win.

by RoninX on Nov 27, 2011 11:55 PM CST reply actions  

This should be a great test for our team

I haven’t watched any FSU hoops this season, but looking at the stats, it looks like FSU shoots better than we do, and is a better offensive rebounding team, but turn it over more and distribute the ball far less efficiently. They also shoot far fewer three’s (13.3 pg vs. 17.5 for MSU), but make more (4.6 pg vs. 4.2 pg). So better shot selection + better shooting numbers across the board + better offensive rebounding = MSU had better create turnovers and limit second chances, in order to win this.

They do have some size – three guys at least 6’10 combine for 57 mpg, but looks like their best scoring options are tall wings, with two 6’5" guards as their leading scorers; hopefully we see Daswon locking down one of those two all night.

I don’t know what kind of D they play, their opponents have shot a ton more three’s, and far fewer FTs, than have the Noles this season, but I’m not sure if they force that by playing zone, or just have played a lot of weak teams and teams that generally jack up the three.

by MSUDersh on Nov 28, 2011 1:35 PM CST up reply actions  

I expect MSU to clean up on the boards

Izzo won’t let his team be out rebounded, no matter how good FSU is on the glass.

by Loneytunes on Nov 28, 2011 4:22 PM CST up reply actions  

I expect something terribly ugly on Wed

2 very good defensive teams might go all LSU-Bama on us in that game.
I hope MSU doesn’t fall behind because this team still struggles to make shots.
Shooters seem to never be ready to shoot off the catch or can’t catch at all.
Bigs really struggled catching the ball yesterday. Payne seemed to be fighting with the ball everytime it came his way. Offense simply has no rhythm.
I think they make too many passes which invites turnover opportunities. There was some good inside out action but again shooters not ready or scared to shoot.
I hope the defense stays at a high level. Offense has a ways to go to catch up.
I’m picking nits I know but the game was never in doubt.

What’s with Green flashing longhorn signs on camera? I’m sure that’s not what it is, but that’s what it looks like. Either way, that should probably stop.

"Brick killed a guy! Did you throw a trident?"

by spartyball on Nov 28, 2011 1:37 PM CST reply actions  

I don't have a video link

but if you can find video from the game watch what he does with his hand after his And 1 late in the 2nd half as he’s getting up from the floor and there’s a camera in his face

He did it again at the end of the game as they’re lining up to shake hands and the camera is on him.
It’s some kind of hand gesture that looks like a combination of the Texas hook em horns signal and the Hawaiian “hang loose” signal.

"Brick killed a guy! Did you throw a trident?"

by spartyball on Nov 28, 2011 5:30 PM CST up reply actions  

It's the Day-Day

All the kids are doing it now.

by MSUDersh on Nov 28, 2011 7:38 PM CST up reply actions  

We're better than Harvard

and that’s why we’ll win on Wednesday

by Chunkydonut on Nov 28, 2011 3:36 PM CST reply actions  

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