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Welcoming Michigan State's 2012 Basketball Class - Matt Costello, Kenny Kaminski, and Denzel Valentine

It’s been over a year since Michigan State received three verbal commitments for the 2012 class in less than two weeks, adding first Ohio forward Kenny Kaminski, then Lansing’s own Denzel Valentine, and, very quickly after that, the state’s top player in PF/C Matt Costello.  Anyone who feared that Tom Izzo’s brush with the NBA might slow him down or dull his energy for the recruiting road was quickly proven wrong. He was armed not only with more resources for travel but also the recruiting pitch that he had a shot at Lebron but chose to recruit "you" instead.  By taking two local players and another Midwest standout, my friend Con-T has suggested to me that "the class of 2012 looks to be the last traditional Izzo class for at least a couple of seasons. That class is stocked with top local players, but no big-name national stars."  There is definitely some truth to this.  As you look ahead, MSU’s focus has shifted.  Chicago is now a huge recruiting ground and Izzo is earnestly reaching out to more five-star players than in recent years. Meanwhile, players like the 2013 Michigan point guard class that we talked so much about have received less attention. 

That said, it’s my opinion that each of Tom Izzo’s new additions to the Spartan family is underrated by national analysts. I sincerely believe this isn’t merely green-colored glasses and fan bias, and I’m looking forward to being proven correct on the court. Michigan State is adding a do-it-all, playmaking guard (Valentine), an outstanding shooter with a football frame (Kaminski), and (in the opinion of someone who might know), the best Michigan post prospect since Al Horford (Costello).  With every class, you’re looking to fill needs and this is pretty clear in some instances.  Kenny Kaminski and Matt Costello both will help compensate for the graduation of Draymond Green and the earlier departue of Delvon Roe.  At 6’5"and possessing point guard ball skills, Denzel Valentine will be able to provide minutes at any perimeter position and improve depth while battling the incumbents for PT. 

Because of travel plans concerning the Carrier Classic on Friday, Coach Izzo will not be holding a press conference today to comment on the signees.  Also, it is possible that MSU might add an additional player to be named later. 

A look at each player individually after the jump....

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Matt Costello

Ht: 6’9"
Wt: 225 lbs
High School: Bay City Western High School
Scout: **** No. 18 Center
Rivals: **** No. 24 Power Forward, No. 82 Overall
ESPN: **** No. 15 Center, No. 85 Overall

Original "Welcome Aboard" Post

There is a lot to be excited about in adding Matt Costello to the G&W and one of the first reasons can be summed up with the word "production."  The state of Michigan has been a reliable place for turning out raw 6’8"-6’11" projects with all the measurables but limited skills and questionable motors.  Costello is not one of those individuals.  I had a great time last season scanning Mlive to see how many points and rebounds Costello was credited with on any given night.  18, 24?  33!?!  Of course, you get exaggeration with high school numbers but it’s clear the Matt is someone who is scoring and rebounding at a high level right now.  Playing in Class A and the Saginaw Valley League featuring consistently top-flight teams like Saginaw High and Arthur Hill, he’s done it against some of the better competition in the state. 

Another common complaint about young bigs is that their approach to the game is "soft."  That description doesn’t fit Mr. Costello either.  Costello is known for aggressive, "spirited" effort and he’s the sort of player who makes opponents stand on notice for errant elbows. Last season, this style of play led to a physical altercation with a Midland Dow player. The "disagreement" resulted in an ejection and Costello’s absence from the next contest.  As I said when this incident occurred, you don’t want to see players lose their heads or act violently.  However, Matt has a fine overall reputation and if you offer me the choice between a passive player who lacks fire and a competitor who occasionally lets the intensity get the best of him, I’ll choose the latter each time.

As the videos below show (major props to MichiganPrepStars), Costello is great around the rim with spins, hooks, and layups all in his arsenal.  To make things almost unfair, Matt is an excellent outside shooter.  He size and ability to play both inside and outside has resulted in one of the most popular comparisons for his game being recent Wisconsin grad Jon Leuer.  If Costello reaches the level of conference success, MSU fans should be cheering.

Like Denzel Valentine, Matt Costello was recruited hard by both in-state Big Ten schools but couldn’t say "no" to the opportunity to play for Tom Izzo.   The attention from one of the countries most successful program made a big impression on young Matt as Matt’s BCW coach Chris Watz said:

"When the Michigan State offer came in, things changed for Matt," Western coach Chris Watz said. "I think he realized that 'Wow, if Michigan State is interested, maybe I can play at that level.' Not that the other schools aren't high-caliber, but now you're talking about one of the elite programs in the country. And that gave him all kinds of confidence that he could really be a Division I player."

Ready to wrap up his process early, Matt took a few weeks to consider his offer and then committed after a visit to Michigan State on August 10th, 2010.

Early on in his high school career, talk about Matt was often paired with Saginaw Arthur Hill’s Jordan Hare, another 2012 big.  Hare was similar in size and build but had an incredible length that made him look like an NBA-prospect.  Years later, a lesson has been learned about the difference between production and potential. While Hare has struggled through injuries and other challenges before committeing to Rhode Island, Costello is in position to be one of Big Ten's best.  If you still don’t believe me, I picked up this quote from respected MSU basketball blogger St8izgr8:

"I think Matt Costello is probably the best post recruit MSU has signed since Paul Davis.  In fact, I think he has a chance to be better than Davis (a pretty strong statement considering that Paul resides in MSU's top ten all time in points scored and rebounds secured) because he has a similar skill set but plays with more passion and edge than did Paul.  He needs to continue to get stronger of course, but he's already  made progress in that area over his high school career."

With Adrien Payne, Derrick Nix, and Alex Gauna all likely to return next year, Matt won’t need to shoulder a heavy burden as a freshman but his ability to put up numbers around the rim and from a distance should make him an immediate contributor. 

Video highlights from MichiganPrepStars:

http://youtu.be/CNJRcU5mwNc

http://youtu.be/SWecB4bZFYM


Kenny Kaminski

Ht: 6’8"
Wt: 246 lbs
High School: Medina High School
Scout: **** No. 20 Power Forward
Rivals: **** No. 25 Power Forward, No. 84 Overall
ESPN: **** No. 16 Power Forward, No. 66 Overall

Original "Welcome Aboard" Post

I knew the name "Kenny Kaminski" before any other of MSU’s 2012 recruiting targets when he popped up all the way back in February 2009 on Lou Dawkins now defunct blog.  According to Lou, that was when Kenny received an offer which, if you’re doing the math, was during the end of his freshman season.  That’s hard to believe but it hasn’t been unprecedented for Coach Izzo to identify at least one prospect in a class very early and make an offer.   Despite Lou’s optimism, MSU didn’t lock KK up that early though he did become the first member to make a public verbal when he chose MSU at the end of July 2011 after having named MSU his leader.  Kaminski grew nervous when he feared Coach Izzo might be leaving for the NBA and during the week of his commitment he told the Medina Gazette, "It was scary…I really liked Michigan State all along. As the decision dragged on, I was really scared. I didn’t want him to go. It was my No. 1 school."

A lot of changed for both Kaminski and the class since that time.  When he was being scouted a whole summer ago, Kenny appeared to be the inheritor of the Raymar Morgan role, a versatile combo forward equally at home working against small forwards on the wing or post players if the match-up required it.  We can call this 6’7", 225 lbs player KK 1.0.  Kenny recently had his measurements taken again at the Kevin Durant Skills Academy and was listed as 6’8", 246 lbs.  If this is accurate, he may have grown himself out of a consistent spot on the perimeter.  By most reports, this isn’t bad weight and Kaminski is merely filling out as he grows and now possesses a college-ready stature.  Looking at MSU’s roster going forward, this transition may help.  With a loaded wing stable, the Medina shooter is just as likely to find PT playing down low.

In most cases, Matt Costello would be your number one long-range bomber as a big but Kenny Kaminski may be the best outside shooting big man in his class.  The official ESPN scouting report calls him "an excellent shooter, one of the best catch and shoot players in his class with range to 22 feet. He's also a great pick 'n pop player; maybe the best in his class at that, too."  This theme of the pick-n-pop player is repeated over and over.  Watching him at Peach Jam in July, NBADraft.net had these remarks, "He won't wow with his length, quickness, or athleticism, but he will with his relentless effort and ability to stretch the floor. He was open on numerous occasions in pick and pop situations and made the most of it with 3 triples. He finished with 30 pts and 7 rebs."  MSU is getting yet another player to add to their roster that defenses can’t lose for a moment or allow to get open on the perimeter. 

As many have heard by now, Kenny will miss his senior season at Medina to fix a shoulder injury he received while playing tight end during football season.  Though he could have continued to play, he would have risked further damage if he took a hard hit playing basketball.  Instead, he is likely to be 100% recovered by the time he begins practicing at MSU.  Though his injury is similar to Adreian Payne’s, Kaminski’s need for upper body building is less so and this injury shouldn’t slow his entrance into the Michigan State playing unit. 

Quality video of Kenny in action is much more scarce.  There is this good one that not only features KK on the court but Matt Costello and Denzel Valentine as well:
http://fivestarbasketball.com/videos/06-08-2011-meet-the-recruits-michigan-state


Denzel Valentine

Ht: 6’5"
Wt: 205 lbs
High School: Lansing Sexton High School
Scout: *** No. 27 Shooting Guard
Rivals: **** No. 13 Shooting Guard, No. 80 Overall
ESPN: **** No. 25 Small Forward, No. 87 Overall

Original "Welcome Aboard" Post

Tom Izzo and Michigan State didn’t have to travel far to grab Denzel Valentine out of Lansing Sexton High School.  Denzel will arrive at Michigan State part of a Spartan legacy that includes his father Carlton, his own squad’s 1988 MVP.  Though bringing the younger Valentine into the fold may now look like a no-brainer, he was slowed by a knee injury early in his high school career when key evaluations were being made and there was some doubt whether MSU would have room with all their other wing prospects.  There’s no doubt now and Denzel Valentine is coming to MSU a player regularly called a "winner" and already a state champion as a junior. 

The first word I heard on Denzel was "Draymond on the wing," a multi-skilled blue-collar athlete with the ability to do a number of things on the court, including handle the ball and run the offense.  Since then, evaluations of DV by scouts, bloggers, and the twitter-happy have confirmed this analysis.  Eric Bossi of Rivals noted Denzel’s "old man game" and posited him as one of the 2012 players likely to spark some controversy.   Watching him this summer in Las Vegas, the ESPN crew looked over his performance and said, "Michigan State coach Tom Izzo could have found himself a guy with more athleticism or size, but not with the same instincts and intangibles." Where have we heard that before recently...

In the same beat, you can watch the videos below and prepare to answer some of the implicit criticism of Denzel’s game.  First, though not on the level of recent MSU recruits and targets like Branden Dawson, Gary Harris, and Dwaun Anderson, Valentine is not what you’d think of as a negative-athlete.  As just one piece of evidence, MichiganPrepStars caught this State Championship clip of an impressive cut into the lane capped by a soaring two-handed dunk.  Denzel has the speed and athleticism not only to make plays on offense but also defend perimeter players effectively.  Connected to the prior skepticism is the suggestion that he is a player without a position.  Though versatile, hard-working, high-IQ players sometimes get this label, I disagree.  Valentine is a guard and that’s the story.  That will be his role at MSU.  In addition, MSU is getting another tall guard thought primarily as a wing who could be a real option at point guard.  Depending on who you talk to and where you look, some observers already consider "PG" Valentine’s primary designation.

Timing is vital in recruiting and there is no doubt that Valentine is a player who almost got away.  The University of Michigan got the jump on offering along with other schools and Denzel was geared up to be a solid fit for John Beilein’s halfcourt offense.  Sam Hosey over at LifeInLansing caught the story when Denzel committed to MSU and a widely-dispersed quote told everyone just how close the Valentine family was to spurning their legacy status and wearing Maize and Blue:

"Michigan came really hard," Valentine said. "The visit (on August 3) was amazing. They made a video highlight tape of their players. I met the athletic director. They took me to the new (facility) and the (football) stadium. It was great."
Carlton Valentine echoed his son's sentiments.
"Michigan came strong, man. I'm serious," he said. "We were ready to commit right there. Those coaches, they are unbelievable. They treated my family with the utmost respect.

Michigan State’s own offer to Denzel followed the attention explosion caused by his excellent summer of 2010 that had schools like Butler, Xavier, and Georgetown vying for his services.  Coach Izzo’s decade of success and dominance in the state paid off and an invitation to join the Spartan family was too much for Denzel to pass up.  He committed on August 9th, 2010, barely a week after receiving his offer. 

There is a lot of video out there of Denzel but, as often is the case, Jay over at Michigan Prep Stars has produced some of the best.  Here is a selection:

Summer 2011
2011 State Championship Game

Some other sources:

http://fivestarbasketball.com/videos/05-06-2011-play-of-the-day-denzel-valentine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUoqwL0AFbc&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6o1KxScV2k&feature=player_embedded

That's all for now.  We'll keep covering Signing Day events this week and I'll drop anything interesting into the comments.  Joe Rexrode told me that he expects MSU to release some quotes on the signees later but it wouldn't be the same as Izzo's press conference.

Also, if blogging about recruiting has taught me anything, it's that the moment I hit "Publish," we're likely to have major news which changes much of what I just wrote.  I'm glad I did my small part by not holding this article.

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This is great Josh, thank you. I’m extremely excited for this recruiting class, much more so than I was/am for this years. I think that all three of these players, especially the two bigs, are going to be fantastic contributors and will help us get that second Nat’l Championship for Izzo in the next couple years. I really think its coming.

The Kaminski injury is a bit worrying, first off because I don’t ever want to have what happened with Byrd happen with another recruit. I’m still nervous that Byrd is going to mess up his foot again. Also he misses a year of development, although he should hopefully be fine by the summer so he can work out with some teammates and what not.

Costello, while I don’t see him quite being Al Horford or Paul Davis, I think he’ll definitely be one of our better centers in recent years, like Davis, Suton and Hutson he can shoot, defend and with some weight training, dude should be strong enough to bang with anyone.

Valentine is a bit of a question mark, because while I can see him being fantastic, I can also seem him be overshadowed by some of the other wings, especially if Harris comes. I think Valentines biggest challenge for minutes though will be from Kearney, who next year with some muscle on him should be ready to make an impact. They are both unselfish intelligent players at a similar height, albeit different builds. Kearney’s arms are ridiculously long which could help him on D, and I doubt we’ll see Valentine contributing immediately, in fact I think a redshirt could be in order, especially since it looks like we may only take one recruit in 2013, at least if we hold out any hope of Harris, Jones AND Okafor in 14 (which I do).

Lastly, Gary Harris is coming here. I can feel it. There’s no way that visit went badly. Hoping for an announcement in the next couple weeks, although do we know if he wants to wait until the later signing period?

by Loneytunes on Nov 9, 2011 11:09 AM CST reply actions  

Neat

Kind of like a Press Conference in a can! Still, looking forward to some extended remarks. This PC is normally about 20 minutes.

"And how much are intangibles worth? 10%? 20%?" - kj@theonlycolors

by intrpdtrvlr on Nov 9, 2011 11:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Rumors are FUN!

http://kentucky.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=1383&tid=165632187&mid=165632187&sid=888&style=2

This guy seems to think Harris → MSU is a done deal and that he’s basically waiting for Izzo not to be travelling to the aircraft carrier so he can personally tell him before announcing.

by MooTheKow on Nov 9, 2011 11:21 AM CST reply actions  

I gotta tell you

I respect this board. Here we have Wildcat fans, many of which whom I’ve met are royal A-Holes when it comes to basketball, who are respectful toward Michigan State (“Can’t go wrong playing for Izzo. Good luck to him and Hope he’s a Cat”). I really appreciate that, and I hope thats how outside fans view us if they choose to visit this blog.

Also this info seems fairly legit, but i wouldn’t call it reliable. I think Purdue is in it as much as Indiana, but I do agree that Kentucky has the edge. Why would Harris ever go to Purdue becuase Painter is putting together his first good class in a while, when he could play at UK or MSU or Indiana where the recruits are good every year?

by Loneytunes on Nov 9, 2011 11:41 AM CST up reply actions  

I visited Kentucky this last summer for the first time...

and they are all nuts about basketball. C-A-T-S CATS CATS CATS! Go CATS! They were super respectful for MSU’s basketball program and were very hospitable.

by Mjay413 on Nov 9, 2011 2:47 PM CST up reply actions  

link fail

@jharris40

Gary will not be signing NLI today. He has until next wed to sign, but should have a decision in the next couple of days.

by my2fish on Nov 9, 2011 12:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Good for his mom

To make a twitter account with a couple of tongue-in-cheek tweets about what Gary is doing (I really like, “Just saw Gary Harris in the kitchen! He was headed to the basement next. His decision must be soon……..”)

I imagine that the entire family is constantly bombarded from all directions for the “insider” info on what he may do. I just don’t get it, he isn’t playing at any college until next year, so when he is ready to sign, he will sign. Signing today vs. next Wednesday won’t help any schools this season.

by MSUDersh on Nov 9, 2011 12:44 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah

it seems odd. not sure it’s even really her either, but it was retweeted by several journalists, for what that’s worth.

by my2fish on Nov 9, 2011 12:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Its just the anticipation

I’m dying here waiting lol. Fans want to get excited about their schools and what brings more fresh un-tainted promise of success to come than a big recruit?

by Loneytunes on Nov 9, 2011 1:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Was looking through that board, and the same author of that post just posted that "Gary Has Decided."

But, the story is hidden behind the pay wall. Anybody know if he has reached a decision?

"Everyone who drinks is not a poet. Maybe some of us drink because we're not poets." - Arthur Bach

by Spartan D on Nov 9, 2011 1:42 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think so

from @RicoBeard

Contrary to all the rumors, I spoke with Gary Harris Sr. and no decision has been made yet. Look for the announcement thur maybe fri.

by my2fish on Nov 9, 2011 2:20 PM CST up reply actions  

I wonder if they're waiting to see what happens with the NBA

If they’re really interested in KY then what happens with the NBA has an impact on who will be on the roster next year.
If there’s no season will there be a draft?
If not, might impact how much PT will be available.

"We Grind and yall try to stop it..." - Fruit

by spartyball on Nov 9, 2011 2:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Underrated class

I agree that this class is underrated and I’m fine with that. After all, a majority of Spartans seem to play better without the hype and high expectations.

by TMadison25 on Nov 9, 2011 11:22 AM CST reply actions  

Thats the sad truth

Eventually we’ll have to learn to deal with high expectations like UNC and Duke do.

by Loneytunes on Nov 9, 2011 11:42 AM CST up reply actions  

It happens to UNC and Duke as well

2010 UNC team with Tyler Zeller, Ed Davis, John Henson, Deon Thompson, Strickland, the Wears. Lots of hype. They made a decent run in the postseason… in the NIT.

2007 Duke team with Scheyer, Paulus, McRoberts, Henderson and Nelson. Lost in the 1st round of the ACC and NCAA tournament.

While it can be frustrating to see it happens to MSU, it happens to the powerhouses at well, but with even more talent.

by TMadison25 on Nov 9, 2011 12:24 PM CST up reply actions  

I think that MSU

excepting the Flintstones era, hasn’t really lived up to expectations when they are high. Think about 03-04 or last year.

by Loneytunes on Nov 9, 2011 12:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

No argument regarding MSU not living up to expectations. I’m just saying that it happens to other schools as well.

by TMadison25 on Nov 9, 2011 1:51 PM CST up reply actions  

You're all Nutz

6 final fours in 13 years now is it! Come on, I mean really look into what happened the two seasons in the last 13 we had high expectations and didn’t live up to it 2006 and 2010.

2006 – We returned Davis, Ager, Brown, and Neitzel but our depth / leadership was done with the graduation of Torbert, Hill, Anderson. I never trusted Ager or Davis as leaders when the games were on there shoulders they ALWAYS came up short. Outside of Ager going nuts against the Zags in Maui.

2010 – We just lived through this nightmare season Allen and Lucious dismissed. Allen was our best shooter and perimeter defender. Lucious our back up PG. The success had clearly gone to their heads with Lucious at least. Lucas was never the same player watching him early in the season going to the rim and getting swatted on a consistent basis was evidence enough. That never happened his before the injury. AND WE GOT NOTHING out of SUMMERS. Not to mention we had terrible chemistry.

Regardless I’ll put our resume over the past 13 years behind only Duke, UNC, and maybe Kansas but we owned them head to head recently.

However, I would die to beat UNC and win some of these big Non-Conference games for a change. I really like the talent Izzo is putting together now if we get Harris next year will have three McDonalds all Americans in our starting line up and we’ll be loaded with solid / versatile bigs. I truly believe were going to get Izzo’s 2nd national title in the next 5 years.

Quite frankly if our 09 team that ran info that UNC buzz saw would have been in the 2010 tourney we win it going away, but that’s life.

by MSUMC25 on Nov 9, 2011 4:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Not complaining

about MSU’s success, but more that they seem to perform better when no one believes in them. Maybe those years were anomalies rather than the norm. Anyways, I agree… It’d be great to come away with a win in those first two games.

by TMadison25 on Nov 9, 2011 5:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Gotcha

I WANT UNC BAD but getting through these games 1-1 will give this team a huge confidence boost.

by MSUMC25 on Nov 9, 2011 5:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Where does this come from?

The MSU bball program in one of the 15 best in the country, if not top 10. You do not get to have low expectations when you are as good as Izzo-PERIOD.

The 03 run was a bit of a surprise, but given it was just two years removed from a great run is wasn’t earth shattering.

05-that team had high expectations, fell short in the reg season, but then made a final four run.

09-High expectations as well. Despite the horrible December loss to UNC they ran away with the conference title and fullfilled the expectations of many by going on a run.

10-High expectations which went down a bit because the team wasn’t dominating throughout the year and then the injury to Lucas.

11-Ok, we all get it. Last year was a bad year. It happens. It doesn’t mean we need to be some under the radar, unknown program.

There are expectations this year, sorry to tell you. One of the main headlines as the season begins is “Will MSU bounce back to true form?” and most people with a brain expect that to happen.

by Conor Boyle on Nov 10, 2011 8:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Misread

Completely misread my comments. I agree that they are a top 10 program. I’m just arguing that in recent years they’ve played better with that chip on their shoulder. In the run in the tourney against Kansas, UCONN, Louisville, MSU was the underdog. Don’t equate “underdog” with “a horrible basketball team.” Expectations are always high with MSU basketball, but RELATIVELY speaking… the years MSU has had that lofty preseason rank are the years they’ve seemed to fall flat. Might be wrong about that.

Practically every season I believe that MSU could make some noise in the tourney, and that goes for this year as well. Reread my comments. I never insinuated that MSU is an “under the radar, unknown program.” Ridiculous.

by TMadison25 on Nov 10, 2011 3:45 PM CST up reply actions  

I equate "underdog"

to “lazy national media not bothering to do anything more than read headlines.”

Anybody who looked closely at that ‘09 tourney team should have been aware that it was loaded, and was a great matchup, especially against the overall #1 L’Ville, and against UConn.

It’s easy for the national media to just regurgitate what is being fed to it by it’s connected sources. The national media is more concerned with how it looks on TV, than it is with doing real research and analysis.

Not that I’m cynical or anything . . .

by MSUDersh on Nov 10, 2011 4:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Great work Josh. I'm very excited for this group to be Spartans.

Why did Costello drop in the rankings this summer? Wasn’t he a top 40-50 player going into the summer? Based on his size and skill set it’s odd to me that he’s ‘only’ ranked around 80th.

There is a lot of noise that Harris is committing us. Hopefully he makes it official soon. If we get Harris this class will contain 3 excellent shooters which we really need to add to this roster.

by Stones1981 on Nov 9, 2011 12:44 PM CST reply actions  

Just remember

Korie Lucious was scouted as a three point shooting machine in high school. These players roles will change, I don’t expect to see Costello jacking up threes too much, but I agree about Kaminski and Harris in that we really do need someone besides Byrd and Appling who can shoot. Heard Trice and Gauna have nice strokes, but thats yet to be seen (so has Byrd now that I mention it). Dawson definitely can’t from what I gleaned from co-workers who’ve been lucky enough to sit in on practices. I also wonder what Kearney’s shot is like but I think we won’t find that out until he actually muscles up.

by Loneytunes on Nov 9, 2011 1:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Heard Carlton Valentine this morning on Staudt

He says Denzel grew over the summer and is at least 6’6 now.
Also said KK grew and is huge in his words. He may need to lose some weight.
I worry about his quickness. The AAU game I saw his jumper was true but he did little else. Comparoni thinks he needs to get faster too.
That being said, I’m all for bringing in more shooters. Hopefully Gauna flashes some shooting ability this year and Byrd rounds into shape giving the team a plethora of outside weapons next year.
Will be nice to have some bigger guards to put on the court too.
Looking forward to seeing each of these guys get integrated and help the team next year.
Good stuff as usual Josh.

"We Grind and yall try to stop it..." - Fruit

by spartyball on Nov 9, 2011 1:47 PM CST reply actions  

BTW

Haven’t seen this mentioned anywhere but Brandon Wood tweeted about Gary Harris on Saturday.
Is that a violation of some sort?
At the very least it’s a bad idea and I wonder how the coaches let that happen.

"We Grind and yall try to stop it..." - Fruit

by spartyball on Nov 9, 2011 2:00 PM CST reply actions  

IDK if its a violation

Just keep it off PurdePete @ Hammer & Rails’ radar, he’s convinced any stud recruit who chooses not to go to Purde only does so bc of violations by that school.

by MSUDersh on Nov 9, 2011 5:34 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

On Valentine

Anybody else thinking Greivis Vasquez? I don’t know if Valentine will be a 20 point scorer, but if he can average around 5 or 6 assists a game and be able to score consistently, he’d be a nightmare matchup for the other team. We could have a line-up with him at the point, Maybe Garry Harris, Dawson, Nix/Payne/Costello. nobody on the floor under 6’6" and still not lacking in any skill sets.

I think Izzo’s finest hour is yet to come, we are going to be scary good in the coming years.

by one23 on Nov 9, 2011 3:58 PM CST reply actions  

Amen

Izzo is a Man on Fire since he turned down the Cavs job and went through last year. I think he was really turned off to one and done 5 star recruits after Randolph left, but I think he finally realizes it’s a necessary evil to compete for National Championships on a consistent basis in this age of college basketball.

You need a blend of those good 4 year players and superstars to win these days.

by MSUMC25 on Nov 9, 2011 4:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Telep and Brian Snow of Scout.com reporting

DaveTelep Dave Telep
Green puffs of smoke emerge from the tower. Gary Harris to Michigan State. Whamo, big domino falls.
10 minutes ago

by MooTheKow on Nov 9, 2011 6:50 PM CST up reply actions  

BSnowScout Brian Snow
“I’m Going to State,” Gary Harris commits to MSU

by MooTheKow on Nov 9, 2011 6:50 PM CST up reply actions  

I have no idea how to link to twitter on here or anything like that

but it does seem that kentucky board from earlier was dead on with his inside info

by WorldSeriesTiger on Nov 9, 2011 6:52 PM CST up reply actions  

It's incredible, isn't it

That nowadays the place to go for up to the moment info on stuff is Twitter? I find it fascinating – for example, following BSD’s own @Ben_Jones88 all day yesterday (and his hot hand on Twitter yesterday landed him on ESPN radio today), and now with this, as soon as I clicked this article & saw MTK’s comment, my first instinct was to run to Twitter.

by MSUDersh on Nov 9, 2011 6:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, gentlemen

I guess this means that MSU has officially won the Nov. ’11 B1G 2012 Basketball title.

by MSUDersh on Nov 9, 2011 6:59 PM CST reply actions  

JimComparoni Jim Comparoni
Confirmed by Rico Beard for Spartanmag dot com: Gary Harris to #MSU. Nation’s No. 1-ranked shooting guard recruit.

by MooTheKow on Nov 9, 2011 7:00 PM CST reply actions  

If this is real

Hot Diggity Dog!
For some reason I don’t buy it.
Nothing has been as it seems here.
Are we sure this isn’t his mom fake tweeting?
I thought there’d be no decision today.

"We Grind and yall try to stop it..." - Fruit

by spartyball on Nov 9, 2011 7:04 PM CST up reply actions  

It's being reported by reputable national sources

To have come directly from Harris’s mouth. But I suppose until Izzo or Hollis has a signed LOI in hand, anything can happen

by MSUDersh on Nov 9, 2011 7:11 PM CST up reply actions  

"Calipari definately would never continue to go after a kid after a verbal ..

if he hasn’t signed a letter of intent yet".

Signed,
  Terrance Jones

by MooTheKow on Nov 9, 2011 7:14 PM CST up reply actions  

ESPN listing him as Signed

Maybe this is real.
If so, well then….. SWEEEET!!
Calipari taking some lumps this year.
Beaten by Izzo and Beeline.

"We Grind and yall try to stop it..." - Fruit

by spartyball on Nov 9, 2011 7:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Some Indiana and Purdue fans

Literally wishing death upon him on twitter…I’m sure that makes him that much happier with his decision.

Gonna be some good years ahead, GO GREEN!

by one23 on Nov 9, 2011 7:17 PM CST reply actions  

Put me very much in the minority witht hat

Those few Purdue fans saying that are jackasses. The kid handled his recruitment with nothing but class, and you’re getting a solid young me. Congrats to you guys. I had to come over and say that, and most of my readers agree,

A futile crusade to prevent mass ignorance

HammerAndRails, SBNation's Boilermaker Blog

by BoilerTMill on Nov 9, 2011 7:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah I know it's a small minority

It’s twitter these things will happen, nothing against you guys as a whole, you’ve been nothing but good to us. Best of luck!

by one23 on Nov 9, 2011 7:22 PM CST up reply actions  

You've been good to us too.

I remember our band getting behind you guys vs. Maryland during the ’10 tourney in Spokane. You guys have a great team with great fans.

I have no problem cheering for you guys except for the 2-3 days you play us. If you can embarrass Indiana along the way, even better.

A futile crusade to prevent mass ignorance

HammerAndRails, SBNation's Boilermaker Blog

by BoilerTMill on Nov 9, 2011 7:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Matt Painter's daughter

@Maggie_Painter:

I hope Gary Harris gets hit by a train. #irony #BTFU

WOW. You stay classy, Ms. Painter.

by MSUDersh on Nov 9, 2011 7:27 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah

not a fan of that.

A futile crusade to prevent mass ignorance

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by BoilerTMill on Nov 9, 2011 7:29 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm figuring

She’s not a reader of yours at H&R. She looks about 16 y/o, so you can certainly excuse what she did to lack of maturity. From what I know about her dad, he’s a class act, and I assume he’ll use this as a teaching moment.

And FWIW, I’m terrified about the stupid shit my kids will one day be putting up on twitter or FB or whatever they are using then.

by MSUDersh on Nov 9, 2011 7:31 PM CST up reply actions  

well

she’s probably grounded

by one23 on Nov 9, 2011 7:31 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Probably?

That can’t help Painter’s recruiting. She’s undermining her father’s ability to do his job.

Twitter and Facebook are so stupid in the wrong hands.

by cwel87 on Nov 10, 2011 9:08 AM CST up reply actions  

It's a pass

Chalk it up to an emotional teenage girl. I’m sure she doesn’t really mean it.

by msuduster on Nov 9, 2011 7:59 PM CST up reply actions  

It seems a lot...

…different when it’s one of Gary Harris’ teenage peers saying something silly, compared to a 45-year-old man with suburban home and career.

by witless chum on Nov 10, 2011 6:46 AM CST up reply actions  

If a highly-recruited, emotional teenage athlete says something like that

His scholarships would be seriously reconsidered.

There is no place for that. At all. 10th grade is plenty old enough to understand that wishing someone dead over an ultimately minor decision (for everyone other than Gary Harris himself) is idiotic at best.

Grow the f*ck up, Margaret.

by cwel87 on Nov 10, 2011 9:11 AM CST up reply actions  

Thanks

And congrats on your class as well. The big ten is shaping up to be incredibly competitive over the next 2-4 years.

If one of the B1G teams can’t win the title with the talent being accumulated, then yikes ….. we’ve got the coaches and now the talent.

League pride woop woop

by msuduster on Nov 9, 2011 8:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Of course...

Izzo is a HUGE cheater. He probably paid another guy minimum was for a week and then a year later that guy bought dinner for Harris! It’s unfair and Painter would never sink to that level.

by MooTheKow on Nov 9, 2011 7:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Awesome! Welcome to MSU!

Izzo and the staff is really picking it up with the recruiting. The future looks very bright especially if we pick up some of the big guys we’re after in the ’13 and ’14 classes.

by Stones1981 on Nov 9, 2011 7:29 PM CST reply actions  

Definitely Agree

Aside from all the stuff on the court, one great thing about getting a truly great recruit is the positive feedback loop. Hope it makes it that much easier to get the next guys

by Chunkydonut on Nov 9, 2011 7:42 PM CST up reply actions  

I've got no interest in the negative

I know some message boards trotted out rumors of MSU being shady. Let them peddle rumors and gossip. No evidence, no named sources, so no concern of mine. *(I will say, I’m disappointed Purdue Pete was willing to put it in the comments section that Izzo essentially cheats. As a contributor to H&R I would have expected more, actual proof, if an accusation like that is going to be levied.)

Today is a day to celebrate the signing of a great 4 man class.

As for Purdue, they’re going to be just fine. They’ve got some good recruits coming in this year and uh, their 2013 class ain’t too shabby. I know Izzo wanted in on Smotherman before Painter locked him down.

by msuduster on Nov 9, 2011 7:58 PM CST reply actions  

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