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Gary Harris to Michigan State!

Not quite the Dance of Joy, because that's saved for actual wins and such, but this is huge huge HUGE!  Harris was ranked the number one shooting guard in the nation in the 2012 class by more than one recruiting service, and oh boy oh boy oh boy.  This means it's twice in two years Izzo was able to reach down into Indiana and pluck out a five-star recruit, and sets up the backcourt to be successful for years to come.  Joe Rexrode had this to say on his blog:

Spartanmag.com, ESPN's Dave Telep, Scout and others are reporting tonight that Gary Harris has picked MSU. Telep vaults MSU's class to No. 3 in the nation and calls the Spartans his "big winners" of signing day.

This makes the 2012 class one of Izzo's best, in my opinion, with the high-flying scorer in Harris, the playmaking wing/point in Denzel Valentine, the athletic and aggressive big man in Matt Costello and the deep-shooting pick-and-pop guy in Kenny Kaminski.

BONUS:  Michigan Prep Stars has a fine video of some Harris highlights.

 

WOOT.  Celebrate y'all.

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Fantastic news.

Perhaps now we can close the gap.

PP-TPW. Welcome, Gary.

by rook34 on Nov 9, 2011 7:44 PM CST reply actions  

what gap?

"We Grind and yall try to stop it..." - Fruit

by spartyball on Nov 9, 2011 7:58 PM CST up reply actions  

I would assume

The gap between MSU and Duke/UNC/Kentucky etc.

by asmith19 on Nov 9, 2011 7:59 PM CST up reply actions  

The one between MSU and Michigan....

that was created by McGary’s signing, according to Michigan fans.

I was being sarcastic.

by rook34 on Nov 9, 2011 8:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh...

need to recalibrate my sarcasm meter

"We Grind and yall try to stop it..." - Fruit

by spartyball on Nov 9, 2011 8:03 PM CST up reply actions  

I just think its funny

How frustrating it must be for UM fans, deep down. They flip out over a recruit like McGary, who while he’ll be excellent (side note: How is this kid 20 years old? Almost unfair) the second their class hops ours in the rankings to number six, one week later we’re up at number three.

Harris is a centerpiece of another final four run (I could honestly see us going to the Final Four in 13-14 and 14-15 if recruits shake out correctly [correctly meaning in our favor 100% of the time (meaning Parker, Jones, Okafor minimum, maybe Young or Harris II [So glad I can finally say that (Am I using enough parentheticals? I thought not.)])]) I can feel it. Here’s to a great future.

by Loneytunes on Nov 10, 2011 4:44 AM CST up reply actions  

holy moly

this is a great get for the green.

welcome aboard, gary!

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by tbone521 on Nov 9, 2011 7:47 PM CST reply actions  

Woooohooooo!!!

Wooohooooo!!!

"And how much are intangibles worth? 10%? 20%?" - kj@theonlycolors

by intrpdtrvlr on Nov 9, 2011 7:47 PM CST reply actions  

Once again, congrats

Of the four finalists for Harris, I’d rather you guys get him after us.

At least he’s not a Hoosier. That would make them insufferable

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by BoilerTMill on Nov 9, 2011 7:50 PM CST reply actions  

Thanks

Even without Harris you guys have 4 quality players in this class.

by Stones1981 on Nov 9, 2011 7:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks man.

Look forward reading over at the Rails this season.

by rook34 on Nov 9, 2011 7:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes! Welcome to MSU!

Look at next years roster:

Appling-Trice-Valentine
Harris-Bryd-Valentine
Dawson-Bryd-Kearney
Costello-Kaminski-Gauna
Payne-Nix-Guana

That’s a young and deep line-up with a ton of talent. I believe that would be three 5*, seven 4*, and two 3* on the roster. The future looks very bright especially if Izzo get some of the ‘13 and ’14 talent he’s after.

by Stones1981 on Nov 9, 2011 7:52 PM CST reply actions  

OH HELL YES!!!!

Hopefully this is the start of a killer weekend for the Spartans!

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by Spartan D on Nov 9, 2011 7:53 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions  

The final straw

I credit my passive-aggressive omission of Gary from my previous post for finally pushing him over the edge to commit!

"And how much are intangibles worth? 10%? 20%?" - kj@theonlycolors

by intrpdtrvlr on Nov 9, 2011 8:04 PM CST reply actions  

We owe it all to you, Josh! (Great post this morning, by the way.)

by SpartanBoiler on Nov 9, 2011 8:05 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't disagree

It seems like you worked just as hard as the coaches on this.
I think I first heard of Gary Harris from you what seems like eons ago.
At that time he almost sounded like a done deal because of a Mike Garland connection.
What a road we traveled since then. This is one of those “remember when you heard about…”moments as a Spartan fan.
Maybe it’s sad that the first person I thought about was you when this broke.
Thanks for bringing him home.
Cheers to Spartan Nation!

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by spartyball on Nov 9, 2011 8:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Haha

“It seems like you worked just as hard as the coaches on this.”

That made me laugh out loud! Thanks, Spartyball!

"And how much are intangibles worth? 10%? 20%?" - kj@theonlycolors

by intrpdtrvlr on Nov 9, 2011 9:43 PM CST up reply actions  

While this seems like a good get

Does he have a shot at being one of those big ego one-and-dones? Because if so, that could hurt more than it helps.

by hascow on Nov 9, 2011 8:17 PM CST reply actions  

One-and-done, possibly.

I don’t know if Izzo would push so hard for an egotistical one-and-done kid. I trust him on that front.

by Mike Rogers on Nov 9, 2011 8:20 PM CST up reply actions  

3 one & dones

Or 3 massive egos? Only one & done I remember is Randolph (Cotton doesn’t count). But I may be missing someone.

Marcus Taylor, J-Rich & Shannon Brown all stayed two season, I believe.

by MSUDersh on Nov 9, 2011 9:39 PM CST up reply actions  

randolph, taylor, lorbek

If i recall correctly.

by lesmanalim on Nov 9, 2011 10:46 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Taylor definitely stayed two seasons

And I guess I didn’t consider Lorbek a traditional one & done, bc he basically went home for the summer & never came back.

Either way though, we’re talking a small handful of players who didn’t stay for their four years. And to your original point, that’s quite a track record for a squad of MSU’s stature.

by MSUDersh on Nov 9, 2011 11:26 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think Harris is a one-and-doner

I think he’s a two or three year player… I also think he’s a studbearpigmonsterballer so what do I know

by Mjay413 on Nov 9, 2011 9:13 PM CST up reply actions  

that's good to hear

I don’t really pay attention to recruiting at all so I rely on other people to get excited for me

by hascow on Nov 10, 2011 1:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Welcome Gary!

No lean times ahead, that’s for sure.

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by PittsfieldIndex on Nov 9, 2011 8:25 PM CST reply actions  

AMAZING PICKUP!

So excited that we were able to get Harris.

On a completely unrelated note Andrew W.K.’s twitter is easily one of the funniest I follow. Highly recommended.

by McSparty on Nov 9, 2011 8:44 PM CST reply actions  

Congrats -- great pickup.

It would be cool to see some epic Harris vs. McGary battles over the next few seasons.

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by Alex Cook on Nov 9, 2011 8:50 PM CST reply actions  

That's why I'm *hoping* that we'll see some battles over the next few years.

Personally, I don’t think McGary should stay for his sophomore year unless he isn’t a lottery-pick type guy after his freshman year. I think he’ll be here for one, but we kind of knew that when he committed.

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by Alex Cook on Nov 10, 2011 8:37 PM CST up reply actions  

I would think there were some terrific MM/Dawson battles

Before McGary went to NH for his last two seasons of hs ball once he became (military) draft-eligible. I believe they are both from the same region in Indiana.

by MSUDersh on Nov 10, 2011 9:12 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Oh come on!

You think Mitch is going to marry Kim Kardashian?!

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by Alex Cook on Nov 10, 2011 8:36 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah it will be nice.

All we need to go out and get Jabari Parker in 2013 class and show who this state belongs to.It ain’t AA.

by spartynation on Nov 9, 2011 9:43 PM CST up reply actions  

I love Andrew WK as our "FUCK YEAH!" song

I hope he returns for future occasions.

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by jhitts08 on Nov 9, 2011 9:05 PM CST reply actions  

Great pickup for MSU.

I am bothered by the vitriol that IU and Purdue fans are throwing at GH. I can’t believe the way they treat a 18 year kid similar to a criminal for signing with MSU. I remember a time where we lost so many 5 star talent to other schools and ACC, bIG East. We never should wish bad for anyone.Period.
Harris is a great player…Dawson in 2010 and GH in 2011.Two five star players for MSU from Indiana.

by spartynation on Nov 9, 2011 9:46 PM CST reply actions  

Kind of reminds me of

Vander Blue. He actually de-commited from Wisconsin after their OWN FANS (!) berated him online when he was having academic issues as a 16 y/o soph verbal. Not quite the same, but another example of asinine online fan behavior.

I’m so glad that the MSU fans I associate with (read: TOCers) don’t behave anything at all like that. The worst I see on here is stuff like, “Mitch McGary is a good get but won’t be that big a help to M.”

by MSUDersh on Nov 9, 2011 10:01 PM CST up reply actions  

McGary will be a huge help to UM...for a year.

Maybe. If everything works out.

But, yeah. The worst you ever say regarding recruiting nonsense is something to the effect of, ‘Damn. Why would anyone ever want to go there?!’ That’s it.

by cwel87 on Nov 10, 2011 9:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Well

I will say when Coach Calipari enters recruitment late and convinces a kid like Terrence Jones to decommit I openly think that foul play is involved. There are certain coaches that I find to be very dirty: Calipari, Calhoun, etc. But they have a track record of getting their schools in trouble, Izzo doesn’t and if a team doesn’t then I agree people shouldn’t spew angry BS

by Loneytunes on Nov 10, 2011 1:14 PM CST up reply actions  

BOOM!!!!!

LOADED we get Jabari Parker in 2013 were winning a national title Appling and Payne’s Senior Year!!!

by MSUMC25 on Nov 9, 2011 10:01 PM CST reply actions  

you know what we dont hate you

we have had our bitter luck of recruiting gone sour. We did not wish ill or injury to any rival team that snatched the recruit. GH wanted to play the Duke, Kansas, UNC regularly. We are fortunate to go to 6 final four in the last 12 years. We are thankful to Coach Izzo for making us a powerhouse. Kid wanted to play on the big stage, the carrier classic kind of games, the tough non-conf schedule and he go that in a master motivator, Izzo and MSU.

by spartynation on Nov 9, 2011 10:14 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't disagree with you...

and I don’t REALLY hate you… just very disappointed… How can we lose out on a kid with TWO parents that are Boilermakers? Oh well… time to move on… Good luck this year…

Boiler Up! Hammer Down!

by JuJuan some Moore? on Nov 9, 2011 10:23 PM CST up reply actions  

non-conf schedule and NCAA tourney performance are a huge part of recruiting

Coach Izzo has done that even when we lose all the big games in november, december.

by spartynation on Nov 9, 2011 10:33 PM CST up reply actions  

I have to imagine that

If nothing else, HS players know they will get a lot of national TV run if they come to MSU.

Also, I recently saw a comment from a highly touted HS player, who I think is 16, basically, he said he’s been watching MSU play in Final Fours his entire life. Now THAT is powerful (and awesome).

by MSUDersh on Nov 9, 2011 10:35 PM CST up reply actions  

And true.

Im 20. I don’t even remember the 1999 final four because, well I was five.

by Loneytunes on Nov 10, 2011 5:13 AM CST up reply actions  

seven. wow.

And thats that lack of sleep and my Michigan State education coming out.

by Loneytunes on Nov 10, 2011 5:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Parents Influence

Wasn’t it Kellen Winslow Jr’s dad who wanted him to go to MSU because we had one of the few African American coaches in the NCAA?

And of course a certain Alabama running back with a Spartan father who I won’t name.

by CJC1992 on Nov 10, 2011 9:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh...

And ANYONE from Purdue that says they wish ill will on this kid, or any kid for that matter, doesn’t speak for a majority of us… There are always a couple of idiots who give the sane people a bad name…

Boiler Up! Hammer Down!

by JuJuan some Moore? on Nov 9, 2011 10:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Harris's game

So what former MSU star (or recent NBA stud) does Harris get compared to? Scout calls him a long-armed, excellent athlete who can knock down the deep J.

I’m thinking (hoping/wishing) a poor man’s Kobe. Any other thoughts?

by MSUDersh on Nov 9, 2011 10:29 PM CST reply actions  

I googled “Gary Harris comparison” & found one site calling him a Russell Westbrook. I would be very very pleased if that is the case.

by MSUDersh on Nov 9, 2011 10:31 PM CST up reply actions  

i thought big ten was a class act in terms of respect.

I am angry by fans from Purdue describing MSU from comments below at Hammerandrail.com

I am a proud alumni and MSU is a beautiful and safe campus. I have walked the campus at 2:00 , 3:00 am and it was always safe.JUst pure garbage and vitriol because we got GH and BD last year. THis dude has probably never visited MSU.

“I think that window has closed. I think he wants a cush job so he can enjoy retirement
I think he has 4 years left.

“I’m not sure Dawson will be able to hack it that long up there, that far from home. Alot of bad influences at that school. Alot of weed and alot of blow.

by bstirrat on Nov 9, 2011 8:47 PM PST up reply actions
As much as I respect Izzo and what he has done I agree.
MSU seems to have a lot of poor traits among the athletes. You have things like bar fights, DUI’s, drugs, etc seemingly happening every year.

by herby20 on Nov 9, 2011 8:51 PM PST up reply actions
I used to live in Detroit.
I know alot of MSU people. They aren’t saints, suffice it to say. That school parties very hard. Much different from Purdue, and Purdue parties hard. Just a totally different atmosphere. There is a Detroit element that takes it to the next level."

by spartynation on Nov 10, 2011 12:33 AM CST reply actions  

I believe one of those posts was from me and I would like to clarify

I fully respect MSU. Tom Izzo is by far one of the classiest coaches I have seen during my short lifetime of 20 years. I was actually considering going to MSU until I ultimately decided on Purdue for engineering. The only time I generally root against MSU is if the game matters to Purdue.

My statement was more so pointed at what seems like a disturbing trend of MSU players, for both football and basketball, getting in trouble with the law, ncaa, coaches, etc. That isn’t to say the coaching or the university is at fault. It isn’t exactly a rare phenomenon for college athletes to get themselves in trouble after all.

by herby20 on Nov 10, 2011 2:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Also

MSU does party harder, I’ve confirmed this. And there currently is a TON of weed and blow around. But then I visit UM or Western or pretty much every college and I realize that it’s pretty rampant everywhere and MSU really isn’t that bad.

Anyways, point is I highly doubt that Dawson will be quickly scared off by our terrible behavior in particular, at least not more than at anywhere else, when I guarantee the exact same thing goes on at Purdue’s campus.

by Loneytunes on Nov 10, 2011 5:18 AM CST up reply actions  

Fantastic News!

Welcome aboard Gary. Great to have you as part of the family. I think this is a great fit for our squad.

by Gym_Rat on Nov 10, 2011 5:35 AM CST reply actions  

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