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The Greening of Gonzaga - MSU 74, Gonzaga 67

Draymond Green was a one-man wrecking crew as he led Michigan State to an impressive road victory in one of the toughest places to win in college basketball. After leading for much of the game, including all of the last 18:30, MSU held off a late rally to become only the seventh team to record a win over Gonzaga in the McCarthey Center.

To the surprise of many, including me, MSU won this game by completely dominating inside. The Spartans front line of Green, Derrick Nix and Adreian Payne frustrated Gonzaga's attempts to get the ball down low to their big men, center Robert Sacre and Elias Harris. Nix and Payne did a terrific job denying Sacre the ball and the help defense did the rest, creating numerous turnovers by doubling or tripling the post and clogging up the passing lanes. Gonzaga committed 13 turnovers in the first half, some of them on attempts to force the ball inside and others due to simply not being able to generate any consistent offense.

The Gonzaga offense divided pretty neatly into three phases. Freshman Gary Bell did some early damage creating for himself. He finished with 13 points on only 6 shots. For most of the latter part of the first half their scoring consisted of Robert Sacre free throws. Much of the rest was courtesy of 5'11" 150LB guard David Stockton being his own one-man band, draining three-pointers and getting to the line. He finished with a team-high 19 points. But in all cases it was one guy trying to do it himself and this is reflected in the assist numbers. Gonzaga came into the game averaging an assist on 56% of their field goals. The MSU defense held them to only 9 assists on 19 scores (47%).

After weathering the Gary Bell-led storm to start the game MSU went into halftime with a one-point lead. In the second half they steadily pulled away, pushing their lead to as high as 14, always able to answer when Gonzaga made a push. They closed the game out in a manner uncomfortably reminiscent of UCLA in last year's tournament game, but managed to hit enough late free throws to keep the Zags at arm's length.

The official box score is here and the statsheet.com page on the game can be found here.

Draymond Green
Draymond Green
(AP Photo/Jed Conklin)

But the big story of the game was Green, who finished with a career high 34 points on a brilliant shooting line of 7-8 on twos, 4-5 on threes and 8-9 from the line. In a comment that captured Green's night perfectly, and incidentally warmed the heart of this tempo-free stats guy, Izzo noted that "Draymond Green was a man tonight. He probably took the least amount of shots he took all year tonight, or close to it, but he was very efficient." Frankly, Green was terrific at both ends of the court. Green completely eliminated Gonzaga star and NBA prospect Elias Harris from this game. Green had the primary assignment on Harris most of the night and Harris finished with only 6 points on 2-11 shooting and seemed invisible most of the game. Green played confidently, stayed within the flow of the offense, led and facilitated masterfully and overall turned in perhaps his best game as a Spartan. As tweeted by Joe Rexrode, Green noted that the key to his game was "definitely patience, the most I've had all year."

A look at the four factors and some notes on the game after the jump.

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This was a 69 possession game, meaning the Spartans kept the Zags at under a point per possession, marking the 9th time in 10 games they've held opponents below that mark. Gonzaga didn't shoot horribly, but the Spartans, thanks to their commitment to getting the ball down low, were excellent, with a team eFG% of 60.4. I consider 60% to be something of a benchmark for highly effective shooting, and the Spartans have only been north of that figure three other times dating back to last year. Their shooting line was 20-35 from two, 6-13 from three and *cough* 16-25 from the line.

It was important that they shot that well, as Gonzaga owned the glass and the charity stripe in this one. They didn't win the rebounding battle by a lot, though, and the Spartans did hold them well under their season average of 36.3% on the offensive glass. It was free throws that really kept Gonzaga in this one, as a third of their points came at the line.

The other important factor was turnovers. Gonzaga committed 20 turnovers in this game, many of them the result of carelessness, meaning that in 30% of their possessions they didn't even get a shot opportunity. This game pushed MSU's opposition TO% to 23.2%, an extremely high figure for a Tom Izzo team. The last time MSU finished a season with a figure that high was 2002, though this should be expected to drop in the B1G schedule, when ball security is a priority for almost everyone but Minnesota.


The Good

Draymond Green — See above. Green was the model of offensive efficiency and defensive effectiveness. Some might quibble with the lack of rebounds (only 2 on the game) but since he also contributed 3 assists and 3 steals I don't think you can complain too hard.

Derrick Nix
Derrick Nix
(AP Photo/Jed Conklin)

Derrick Nix and Adreian Payne — It wasn't just Green. Both Nix and Payne seemed to take big steps forward right before our eyes. Both were extremely impressive in shutting down Sacre, Nix by forcing him away from the rim and Payne by denying him the ball. Payne especially worked tirelessly to move his feet and stay in front of Sacre while still having the energy to run the floor and make athletic plays on offense. Nix was very effective scoring inside against the taller Sacre, showing some nice touch in the lane. The two were a combined 8-10 with 9 boards, 2 steals and 3 blocks. Very, very good signs for the future.

Keith Appling — Though he only scored 8 points, Appling seemed much more of a presence in this game than that. He is visibly and statistically getting more and more comfortable in the point guard role and he had a career high 7 assists against only 2 turnovers in 33 minutes. He also showed flashes of his tremendous finishing skills at the rim and helped salt the game way by hitting 6 of 8 free throws.

Defense — In addition to the excellent individual play of the bigs, the Spartans, for the most part, did an effective job switching, helping in the post and fighting through screens. The guards did lose their men for layups or open shots on several occasions, but a very solid defensive effort overall against a team that had not been held to under a point per trip all year.


The Not-So-Good

Guard play — As good as the frontcourt played, the backcourt had its issues. This game was a bit of a reality check for Travis Trice who made a couple of bad decisions on offense, a couple of bad gambles on defense and ended up shooting only 1-6, 1-4 from the line, and coughing the ball up 4 times in 20 minutes. The guards as a whole were 5-20 and looked uneven and a bit unprepared when Gonzaga went to a trapping press at the end of the game.

Free throw shooting — Though the Spartans shot a not-completely-awful 16-25 from the line they missed a cringe-inducing 7 free throws in the final 1:38 when they could have put the game away. This could definitely prove to be a problem in close games as nobody but Appling seems at all reliable at the stripe right now. Nix clearly has some more work to do before Izzo will be entirely comfortable keeping him on the floor late in the game.


The Spartans now have a week off before resuming the back half of their non-conference schedule. Forgive me if I'm looking forward at this point, as the B1G looks like it's going to be a real free-for-all. With only Penn State, Iowa and Nebraska looking out of it - and OSU, Wisconsin and Michigan all showing vulnerabilities - it should be a really tight race. OSU is still the solid favorite but the next eight teams could finish in any order. MSU will open the conference schedule against surprising Indiana, which just knocked off number one Kentucky to move to 9-0. Next up: Bowling Green.

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Great game from the Dancing Bear.

Not as good as at Illinois his sophomore year, but close.

Better result, though.

PP-TPW.

by rook34 on Dec 11, 2011 12:31 PM CST reply actions  

Green

was clearly the most impressive, but It was the play of Nix and Payne that that gives the most confidence for the future. Great defense last night and good hands in the paint. Felt like the three forwards combined for 20 disrupted passes in the paint. I still cringe whenever nix gets it down low, but last night was a good step. If they can combine for some consistent play, we will be a solid road team in the big ten.

by yoeye82 on Dec 11, 2011 1:02 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

TV and the Bigs

With the IU win over UK and our win over the Zags, both teams should move into the top 25 (although I suspect MSU will be shortchanged by both the coaches and the AP) which means that the 12/28 game at the Bres should be a top-flight TV attraction. Will ESPN pull it from the BTN or is this one that the BTN will fight to keep? I need to know before I go to my local cable provider and sign up for the BTN before the end of the year. I realize that predicting the “mind” of the BTN is like reading entrails, but does anyone have a suggestion?

Nix and Payne were great. Where have they been hiding? Dakich said they both looked between 50 and 75& better than the FSU game. I’m beginning to like Dakich and his propensity to both compliment and critiicize as the occasion warrants. Better he than Dickie V’s endless cheerleading.

by Uncle Omar on Dec 11, 2011 1:16 PM CST reply actions  

I'm not certain, but

I think they set the TV schedule for all but the last couple weeks well in advance, and it’s probably going to stay as it is.

I've got this terrible pain in all the diodes down my left-hand side.
Bradley-Terry rankings for college football and basketball: because there aren't enough computer rankings already.

by SpartanDan on Dec 11, 2011 1:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed, especially on Nix and Payne

They looked great in this game, it would be very very nice to see them continue to develop

"It's a trap!"

by AdmiralAkbar on Dec 12, 2011 9:50 AM CST up reply actions  

I enjoy Dakich's analysis. He knows what the hell he's talking about, unlike many analysts.

"Everyone who drinks is not a poet. Maybe some of us drink because we're not poets." - Arthur Bach

by Spartan D on Dec 12, 2011 10:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

I liked him on BTN, and has a real nose for what’s going on instead of just repeated tired cliches.

Tonight's going to be a good night.

by Spartalytical on Dec 12, 2011 11:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Plus...

when he brought up things like ‘if those were my players they would be off the team’ (in reference to the cincy/xavier brawl) you knew he meant it – because he actually did kick most of his good players off the team when he took over at Indiana. Seems like a quality individual.

by MooTheKow on Dec 12, 2011 11:30 AM CST up reply actions  

You will really enjoy th B10N

We are not technology people but love our DVR and the B10N. There is at least one good new
show to “tape” every day and sometimes two. We have enjoyed the cross country championships,
hockey and every so often a great soccer or volleyball game.

You obviously really follow MSU so you should get a lot out of it. I find if I try and watch sports center or other more national sports shows, i am very bored. Because all the othe b10 teams are our opponents or because their success (both on and off the field/court) reflects well on the whole conference that i am much more interested say in the Journey even if MSU is not covered in that one show. I only watch ESPN as we get close to March and I care about learning about the other teams. The analysts for the most part are good. You will probably like Breakdown and B10BBall and Beyond each week too. I like the Pulse but my husband probably not as much. though he does watch it .

It is pricey, our cable bill is very out-of-character for us as a family due to the DVR and HD,
however, without the DVR we would watch very little. I had to upgrade us to a better sports package to get the extra B10N channels in football a few years ago when both uofm and msu were on the b10n at the same time. The nice side-effect is it also includes ESPNU so there
is a bball game or 2 that i would have just missed out on in the prior years. I rationalize that some people easily spend that amount for fancy coffee or at the bar in a month. In a month, the B10N and actual games make up 95-100% of what i watch (but i am not a huge TV watcher, like to read).

by wifeofaspartan on Dec 13, 2011 5:22 AM CST up reply actions  

So three straight games with a player's name in the recap title

Its nice to be able to have different players contribute every game.

by kjzk13 on Dec 11, 2011 2:23 PM CST reply actions  

Good win if not a complete effort

Green has taken a lot of heat for his inefficient games thus far. He seemed to be forcing things as if trying to force the team on to his back when it wasn’t needed.
I think last nights performance is what he was looking for. Mission accomplished.
I’m not comfortable with how necessary each of his points were though as it seemed like, other than Nix , nobody else wanted to step forward offensively. I disagree that it was Green’s best as a Spartan because of the rebounds however if he has NBA dreams he should hope the tape of this game gets circulated more than the O-Dog tape in Menace II Society.

I was disappointed in the guards too. A lot of bad decisions and loose ball handling and missed FT’s. It’s forgivable since this was Keith’s first road test as the PG and TT is a freshman, but Keith is still having trouble driving into charges.
Nix is maturing into a reliable player, Sacre isn’t the best defender in the world but I didn’t think Nix could score on him and he did multiple times.
I’m reluctant to say anything about AP until he does it again, needs consistency.
AT’s comical turnovers made an unwelcome return. I was OK with him playing as an offensive nonfactor but I’m not OK with him sabotaging the offense.
Good night for BK, got some praise from the coach and all. If he continues the good work in this week of practice, he may find a home in the rotation. Right now, the 2 unheralded freshman are ahead of the prized McD all american. If he catches up, this team can be pretty good.

"Brick killed a guy! Did you throw a trident?"

by spartyball on Dec 11, 2011 2:24 PM CST reply actions  

Not really

Some good some bad.
The bad would’ve been real problems had the team lost.
I like wins and I’m thankful for Green’s heroic effort.
He went double HAM last night.

"Brick killed a guy! Did you throw a trident?"

by spartyball on Dec 11, 2011 4:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Also, I nominate Brandan Kearney for "Good."

He must of earned himself something in practice because he entered the game as the first wing off the bench ahead of Thornton. He played solid defense and used his length to be disruptive.

I’m not sure what he’s going to give MSU going forward but that was a solid performance last night even if he didn’t make a major impact on the statsheet.

"And how much are intangibles worth? 10%? 20%?" - kj@theonlycolors

by intrpdtrvlr on Dec 11, 2011 7:33 PM CST up reply actions  

I was on the fence on that one

Both Kearney and Gauna played well and hit one shot in their limited court time. Life in Lansing’s “State of Basketball” review of the game gave them a “good” as part of an “unexpected contributions” category. That seems pretty good to me.

by Con-T on Dec 11, 2011 7:40 PM CST up reply actions  

re: Gauna

I was really surprised. He had a very good first half. Then, Byrd went in at PF during the 2nd half instead. Gauna didn’t do anything to lose those minutes; I wonder if it was merely an issue of finding Byrd time.

"And how much are intangibles worth? 10%? 20%?" - kj@theonlycolors

by intrpdtrvlr on Dec 11, 2011 8:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Green on Gauna

Green gave some props to Gauna is his postgame comments.

Green credited his own self-control on offense. On defense, he credited teammate Alex Gauna’s practice work in simulating [Elias] Harris.

“When we practiced here, Alex was Harris, and he definitely prepared me to guard Harris,” Green said. “He scored on me so much, it just killed me. He got in my face, talking junk to me, just going at me, and it really prepared me for everything Harris is, and I’ve got to give him credit. The way he played that role in practice was just phenomenal.”

In the game, Gauna played only three minutes, but his mid-range jumper gave Michigan State a three-point lead late in the first half.
Source: mlive.com

by Con-T on Dec 12, 2011 8:43 AM CST up reply actions  

gauna

Blew a defensive assignment and during a break in action (getting ready for free throws I think) izzo ran so far out to yell at Gauna he could have stood on the blocks.

If the young guys play Izzo caliber defense and don’t take bad shots I think we can do some real damage.

The reality is we need Gauna to provide 5-10 minutes to give the bigs rest and relief during foul trouble. As long as Byrd is a step behind wings he won’t get any minutes unless he’s at the 4.

To me Dawson looks uncomfortable at the wing, unsure of his role. Hopefully he buttons down over the next few weeks and is ready ny the start of B1G action. He can avg 8 and 6 easily.

by msuduster on Dec 12, 2011 9:13 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

+1 On Brandan Kearney

I thought he had some good minutes. Nice to see him in there.

Any comments on Dawson? It’s like he has disappeared the last few games.

by bdok74 on Dec 12, 2011 7:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Game highlights on msuspartans.com

Green was on fire, nice spin moves by Nix and monster flush by Payne. Jud has green blood.

by MSU1978 on Dec 11, 2011 6:10 PM CST reply actions  

It's really nice

To have an ace free throw shooter like Appling at the end of games, just wish the rest of the guys could learn to shoot like him

by chuggingspartan on Dec 12, 2011 12:17 AM CST reply actions  

Box score and statsheet links

I’m a happy man.

Green was great in this one. I’m not too worried about the rebounding – we’ve been very good as a general rule this year so it will take more than one off night to get me worried about that factor. Plus, when you’re effective field goal percentage is north of 60 there aren’t all that many offensive rebounds to go around anyway.

Nix and Payne both played very well considering the level of the competition. Appling had a quiet night but we were pretty good in the turnover department – and definitively won that factor which is a rarity for MSU basketball. He also played well on D – a quiet but pretty high quality night.

Trice had an off game, but that happens to everyone. Dawson was really a non-factor – maybe his knee/ankle are slowing him down? I’m not too worried about the younger players who didn’t show well – you can’t expect a lot of consistency out of freshmen this early in the season so an off night here or there is to be expected.

Gauna played well in limited minutes – I thought he looked pretty good on both ends of the floor. He wasn’t getting lost on D and had a nice mid-range bucket.

Our average efficiency margin so far this year is over .24 (that’s offensive efficiency minus defensive efficiency). That’s pretty good considering the level of competition we’ve played. Different guys are contributing on different nights. Overall this seems like a versatile and deep team that plays well defensively on a pretty consistent basis. I still expect some inconsistency given the number of young guys who are playing major minutes, but we’re better than I expected at this point in the season given our youth. Overall I’m really happy with our play so far – I wouldn’t call us a favorite to win the B1G by any means but I’d say we have a dark horse shot to contend. I still think OSU is the prohibitive favorite so long as Sullinger stays healthy.

by TheCrestedHelm on Dec 12, 2011 9:35 AM CST reply actions  

Perfectly Efficient

With 11 FGs on 13 attempts, including 4 three-pointers, Green actually posted an eFG% of 1.00. Take away Green, and the rest of the team posted an eFG% of only .457. One of the best individual performances in a long time. Truly masterful.

"It was worth it. Every needle, every dose of medicine that I've taken. That's why you play the game. A chance to be on a Final Four team, a chance to win championships." Delvon Roe

by Ducking Delvon on Dec 12, 2011 9:43 AM CST reply actions  

Dawson

A few commentors have mentioned Dawson, and frankly I’m kind of concerned.

He was a jumping jack early against UNC, all over the place, and certainly gave us a glimpse of the rebounding prowess we all heard about from HS.

However, since that injury, he hasn’t even been close to the same player. He’s had a couple of nice games from a stat line viewpoint, most notably Texas Southern & CCSU, but he hasn’t been passing the eye test. I just keep thinking back to seeing him rise up through the trees vs. UNC to get a board or tap back up a missed MSU shot, and that hasn’t been part of his game. Also, he’s completely disappeared in the two games (FSU & the ’Zags) against high level D-1 opponents since the openers.

I’ve read the comments from him & Izzo that physcially he is fine, but mentally not over the injury. What will it take to get him past that barrier, besides just going out & doing it? I don’t know the answer, but I do know if he can get his game back, he will be a huge boost to this lineup.

by MSUDersh on Dec 12, 2011 10:33 AM CST reply actions  

He’s a freshman with a gimpy knee, and we’re less than ten games into the season. I don’t think it’s time for panic mode yet.

by westshaw on Dec 12, 2011 11:39 AM CST up reply actions  

That thought line is reassuring

Though the fact my opinion that his play has regressed since the opening game is frightening (to me!).

by MSUDersh on Dec 12, 2011 12:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Mental stuff is always scary to me too

You never know when/if it will turn around. Exhibit A: Summers. Though not injury related, we all assumed that at some point he would permanently discover that killer instinct that he occasionally flashed throughout his career and seemed to finally settle into and become comfortable with during the ‘10 Dance, but he never got there. A player who mentally imbeds a tentative game because of injury isn’t guaranteed to be able to red line it in the future.

Obviously I have no insight into Dawson’s mentality or psyche, but I would rather hear the his knee is still hurting (but hopefully on the mend) than that it is 100% healthy and he is having a tough time pushing himself at more than 70% aggressiveness.

by RoninX on Dec 12, 2011 12:48 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm willing to bet

That there’s a degree of disappointment with getting banged up in that first game and just not making as big of a splash as a 5* necessarily expects to, especially when your relatively unheralded AAU teammate is getting a lot of love out there. Hopefully, if it is that, he’ll get over it soon and just try to get comfortable playing within the offense and attacking the rim, not actually trying to have a big game.

I want to see this from him:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXhCcDrcKdc

We shall see, I think we are going to be an incredibly hard team to beat if he starts getting into a groove. If the post guys stay consistent and Dawson starts clicking, we have inside scoring, outside scoring and everywhere in between, plus this is shaping up to be one of Izzo’s best defensive teams in recent memory. And with Draymond as the senior leader, I don’t think this year is too early to really make a splash, maybe a very big splash.

by one23 on Dec 12, 2011 1:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Appling Turning the Corner?

Assist-to-Turnover Ratio

1st 5 games = 0.75:1 (9 A, 12 TO)
2nd 5 games = 2.63:1 (21 A, 8 TO)

And in the last 3 games, the ratio goes up to 4:1 (16 A, 4 TO). He has more assists in the last 3 games than he did in the first 7 games. And with the exception of the FSU game, he has done a much better job protecting the ball. The Gonzaga game was probably the most encouraging of all, given that he didn’t register a single assist against UNC, Duke, or FSU. I thought he did a great job in transition of finding an open shooter and kicking out after a drive. He’s proving a lot of people wrong (like me) who thought he needed to go back to playing the 2.

"It was worth it. Every needle, every dose of medicine that I've taken. That's why you play the game. A chance to be on a Final Four team, a chance to win championships." Delvon Roe

by Ducking Delvon on Dec 12, 2011 1:03 PM CST reply actions  

Very interesting

I think he’s definitely turning the corner, and blooming into the special player that we all thought he could be. I’m very interested to see how his career compares to Kalin’s. I know we shouldn’t always compare current players to past legends, but I think Appling’s got a ton of skill and he’s looking very mature with the ball this year, developing very nicely. And his defense is among the best in the nation.

by one23 on Dec 12, 2011 1:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Appling and all our guards

Wish they’d start pulling up for a short jumper than driving too deep and getting called for a charge.

Against a certain team from Madison that’d be pretty helpful.

by msuduster on Dec 12, 2011 1:32 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

haha yeah Wisconsin's game plan would be destroyed

I would kill to see Bruesewitz flop without any contact. That would make my year.

That being said, good point, we need some of that Kalin in the lane vs. Kansas. Appling still doesn’t seem to quite have the hang of not charging. Just saw him on campus with a nice furry Ushanka (Russian snow hat, had to look up that name), probably walking to a final, stayin warm.

by one23 on Dec 12, 2011 1:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Seriously, does nobody remember last year? Felt like every single trip down the court we settled for a midrange floater or an ill-advised three and it never worked.

by westshaw on Dec 12, 2011 2:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Well there's nothing wrong with mid-range jumpers

if your players can drain them; with the advent of the 3 pt line, it’s a lost art. But the benefit of a good mid-range game is, you open up things down low by punishing the D for packing the interior.

Also, you increase the chance to get those blocking calls by getting the defenders feet moving. Finally, on screens, you force the D to be honest and not sell out on the PG, because he can hurt you by dishing it to a wide open mid range shooter.

Talor Battle from PSU is the first B1G player that comes to mind in the past few seasons as having a stellar mid-range game, though certainly there are others I’m forgetting. And he rode that mid range game (along with outstanding 3 pt shooting) to the school record for total points scored.

by MSUDersh on Dec 12, 2011 4:36 PM CST up reply actions  

PSU scoring record = tallest midget?

But seriously. That is all well and good if you have guys who can knock ‘em down. Kalin and Raymar could do it, nobody on this year’s team has shown a reliable ability to do it quite yet.

by RoninX on Dec 12, 2011 5:41 PM CST up reply actions  

And the best of Izzo’s teams have had a guy who could consistently take it to the rack (people often forget this part of Cleaves’ and Neitzel’s games, but it was a huge component, especially for Drew). I’ll take Appling/Trice driving and drawing contact (and the occasional charge, yes) over the four corners offense we ran last year any day of the week.

by westshaw on Dec 12, 2011 6:17 PM CST up reply actions  

And to reply to my own comment

Look what happened last year when Kalin’s athleticism was limited by his achilles injury. His ability to drive was diminished and the offensive flow we had in years previous ground to a halt.

What I’m saying here is, Appling/Trice taking it inside aggressively is a good thing. They’re young guys and they have to learn to adjust to some of the chicanery they’ll face inside, but the last thing they need to do is stop driving.

by westshaw on Dec 12, 2011 6:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Neitzel

Man, he used to have some beautiful moves to the basket to get close & flip it in for a score, seems like his soph & junior seasons he was incredibly aggressive with taking it straight to the hoop.

by MSUDersh on Dec 13, 2011 10:26 AM CST up reply actions  

RE: Wisconsin

You got that right! Either Bo Ryan teaches the flop, or the Badgers recruit the softest 6’8" + guys anyone has ever seen. Nothing more comical than watching someone with 8 inches & 80 lbs on a pg go down with the slightest contact.

by MSUDersh on Dec 12, 2011 4:07 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

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