Great Lakes Invitational Preview-Type Substance and Game Thread
by SpartanDan on Dec 29, 2011 2:00 PM CST
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PrintWhat with the holidays and all, real life has been a bit busy. With that and data for hockey being rather sparse compared to the vast treasure troves we have for football or basketball, this is going to be a very short preview.
What is it? An annual four-team holiday invitational tournament co-hosted by Michigan State, Michigan, and Michigan Tech. The fourth team is different every year; this year it is Boston College.
When is it? 14th-ranked Michigan State faces off against Michigan Tech in the first semifinal (4:00 ET today); Michigan and Boston College play afterward (at approximately 7:30 ET, assuming the first semifinal doesn't go deep into overtime). The losers will play in the third-place game at 4:00 ET tomorrow, the winners in the title game at 7:30 ET. The title game will be on Fox College Sports Atlantic; other games will not be televised.
Who are these other teams? You know Michigan (ranked #20) well enough; we played them only three weeks ago. Of note, though: due to the 2012 World Juniors hockey tournament, Michigan will be without forward Jon Merrill. (Edit: commenter sullivti points out that Merrill hasn't played all year due to a suspension for "violation of team rules", so this isn't really a change from the last time we played.)
Michigan Tech is usually a doormat; two years ago we beat them 10-1 in the GLI opener. This year's team is no pushover, however, at 6-7-1 in the WCHA (which, most years, is to college hockey what the SEC claims to be to college football) and .500 overall, including a split at #2 Minnesota and a win and tie against #15 Denver. They are still, however, the least formidable of the four teams present on paper; they score just 2.84 goals per game to our 3.44 and Michigan's 3.55 and allow 2.89 to our 2.67 and Michigan's 2.65. Their scoring is remarkably balanced; Milos Gordic leads the way with just 7 goals (four on the power play), but three others have 6 and two have 5.
Boston College, on the other hand, comes in ranked #3 and leads Hockey East at 9-4-0 in conference, 12-6-0 overall. They are scoring 3.61 goals per game and allowing just 2.50. BC defeated us 5-2 in the season opener at the Icebreaker Tournament and are making their first appearance in the GLI since winning it in 2003. Like Michigan, however, they are missing a forward who is playing for Team USA at World Juniors (Bill Arnold). Arnold is their second-leading scorer, but they still pack plenty of punch up front: Chris Kreider has 12 goals (tied for 8th nationally) and Barry Almeida has 10.
My bold (and probably wrong) predictions for the tournament: Tech gives us a scare for a bit before we put them away, 4-2. Boston College wins handily in the other semifinal, 5-2. Michigan then wipes the floor with Tech in the third-place game, 5-1. With Arnold away, we're able to keep it more competitive against BC but fall 3-2 in the title game.
On a completely unrelated note: I plan to get the first set of basketball Bradley-Terry ratings up within the next day or two (have to make a few minor tweaks to the script to get the home/road data from Ken Pomeroy's database); next year should be quicker.
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Just FYI – Merrill hasn’t played a second of ice time yet this year (he’s been suspended), so he’s not exactly a loss, or at least not a new one.
Ah.
Thanks, I was throwing this together rather quickly before flying home from a family visit.
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live streaming from wings and tech
http://video.redwings.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=616&id=66722
Hope that works… Trying to comment with my phone.
by my2fish on Dec 29, 2011 3:35 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
If it's an official, legal stream it's ok.
We’re not allowed to have links to … less than official streams, for legal reasons.
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Hosts
I believe just U-M and MTU are the hosts, technically. MSU is obviously in it every year, though.
For those who can't watch the stream
it’s currently 2-0 MSU with about 16 minutes left in the third. Tech has had some chances lately, though.
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5 on 3 for Tech.
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And there's the goal.
2-1 MSU, Tech still on the power play for 1:12. 12:32 to go.
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Holy cow.
Announcer on the live stream just said shots are 40-16 favoring MTU.
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It's final now.
We’ll be in the title game tomorrow.
Only saw the third period, so I don’t know exactly how the first two went, but given the shot totals I would figure one of two things:
1) Tech was bombing away any chance they got, taking a lot of bad shots and never getting really good chances, or
2) Palmisano bailed us out all game long.
Given what I saw of the third period (especially early), my money’s on #2.
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Weird Game
I just got back from the game and it just seemed odd. There wasn’t much of a flow to the whole game. Tech had possession for most of it, but MSU did a good job of keeping them to the outside and the majority of their shots were bad ones. Even though Tech outshot us 45-24, my guess would be MSU had more quality scoring chances.
We did a good job of finishing when we had our few chances, but we seemed really content to just play a packed in D, then get the puck out, change lines, and repeat. It usually took a mistake by Tech during our soft fore check for us to get sustained pressure and even then, our D rarely pinched in.
But all in all, they seem to stick to a game plan and came out with a win. Let’s take it home tomorrow against I’m assuming BC.
Michigan beat BC 4-2.
We play the Wolverines in the title game tomorrow. (Well, I guess it’s technically “today” now, unless you’re on the West Coast.)
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championship game
is streaming live now (legally):
http://video.redwings.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=616&id=66722 (Red Wings feed, UM radio maybe?)
http://www.foxsportsdetroit.com/pages/streaming2 (supposed to be MSU audio, but I don’t get any audio at all)
Irritatingly, FCS Atlantic is showing a replay of an old MSU game instead of this one.
So if you’re out of the area, the streams are pretty much your only choice. Scoreless at the end of the first.
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We just had an apparent goal waved off; not entirely clear why.
Might have gone under the side of the net while it was lifted up, might have been a “goalie had it, ref was blowing the whistle as we knocked it loose” situation.
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did you get any explanation?
I’m watching the stream, and they didn’t really say.
maybe a Spartan in the crease or the net was off?
No, I'm watching the Red Wings stream too.
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POWER PLAY
Somebody for MSU got hooked right in front of the net.
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GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAL
Sorenson! MSU up 1-0, about 6 left in the second period.
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Uhoh
Michigan power play coming up. We’re still up 1-0, just over 12 minutes left.
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Killed off, but Michigan's still applying pressure.
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DAMMIT
Tie game.
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GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAL!
Perlini on a beautiful feed from Walrod. 2-1 MSU, just over 7 minutes to go.
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Oof. Penalty coming up.
2:18 left, and Michigan’s going to spend almost all of it on the power play. There may be some 6-on-4 here, and Michigan’s been really outshooting us the whole period.
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I don't think so.
Pretty sure the GLI does playoff-rules OT (keep playing until somebody scores).
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Yeah, it's not officially a conference game.
Sometimes midseason tournaments do a shootout when they need somebody to advance, sometimes they do playoff-rules. Apparently the GLI does playoff rules (probably with the exception of the third-place game, so as not to delay the championship game).
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SONOFA
Michigan pulled their goalie and immediately scored. Something like 45 seconds left in regulation.
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not sure about TV, I thought it is on some cable channel
streaming at the 2 links above
maybe try Fox Sports Detroit?
here are the links
is streaming live now (legally):
http://video.redwings.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=616&id=66722 (Red Wings feed, UM radio maybe?)
http://www.foxsportsdetroit.com/pages/streaming2 (supposed to be MSU audio, but I don’t get any audio at all)
Got it thanks
I’ve got the, RW feed + Spartan radio feed combo going.
Found college hockey on Fox Sports Central on Xfinity in Chicago, turns out to be Harvard @ UND. I was so pumped for a split second until I saw the participants.
Buttery just had a good chance on a one-timer, but no dice.
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Holy crap there are like no TV timeouts in this apparently
This is the quickest period of hockey I’ve ever witnessed.
Wide open OT so far.
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NCAA rinks vary in size.
Some use NHL size, some use Olympic size (wider). I think Munn is NHL, Yost is Olympic, but I could be wrong.
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OK thanks wasn't sure
I know the int’l rink is larger than NHL, but watching the UND game on TV right now, that rink actually looks wider than the ice at the Joe
I know Minnesota plays on an Olympic-size rink.
Illinois’s club team rink is actually even wider than that.
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Apparently,
Munn has it’s own website, and this is what it has to say:
The ice surface, sized at 200 feet by 85 feet for North American-rules play
DAMMIT
Michigan wins.
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Well,
here’s to the men’s hoops team putting a whupping on UNL in their inagural home B1G game tomorrow.
I'm afraid Wisconsin already did that.
Nebraska’s getting a rather cruel initiation: Wisc, MSU, @OSU.
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Oh I thought they got to get broken in in the Kohl Center
Well, here’s to us whupping them worse than Whiskey did
We always play them four times a year in the regular season.
Adding the GLI, a potential three-game series in the CCHA playoffs (unusual since it requires that one team finish outside the top four), and a potential NCAA game, we could face them up to nine times in a single year. We did play them seven times in 2009-10 (they swept us in the CCHA quarterfinals after we beat them to win the GLI).
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