Preview: Michigan State vs. Penn State
THE BRESLIN CENTER, EAST LANSING, MICHIGAN
THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 10, 7PM ET
BIG TEN NETWORK (JOHNSON, KELSER)
ONLINE RADIO FEED: WJR
[Abbreviated version. --LVS.]
In short: a win tonight is absolutely necessary if there's any chance for the season to be salvaged. The current respective positions of Penn State and Michigan State could scarcely have been predicted at the time of the teams' last meeting. Heading into that game, Penn State had lost all of their important non-conference games, and was fresh off a waxing at the hands of Purdue. MSU's two wins had been close affairs, but the team looked ready to build some momentum.
The 66-62 loss in State College was miserable and foreboded the terrible things that were to come for the Spartans:
In short, if you haven't calibrated your expectations for this MSU team, you better do so now. This loss wasn't like the fluke losses two years ago where the Spartans lost to hot-shooting Penn State and Northwestern squads, this loss can be blamed on a failure to collect rebounds and poor foul shooting.
Indeed, Penn State won the game by collecting 39.5% of their misses. While Penn State didn't set the nets on fire like other MSU opponents have this year -- only a 44.7% eFG -- they buried important shots when they needed to. And, as we all know, Talor Battle was nailing contested 25-footers against MSU way before it became in style to nail contested 25-footers against MSU.
Since that game, Penn State has beaten Illinois and Wisconsin and lost in excruciating fashion to Ohio State and Purdue. In spite of their horrific non-conference play, they're serious tournament contenders, and while taking down MSU at home ain't what it used to be, they'll surely be extremely motivated to burnish their resume.
The good news is that, according to BSD, Jeff Brooks is "questionable" for tonight's game. Brooks was massive for the Lions back in January against Your Spartans, scoring 17 points, grabbing 12 boards, and generally acting as a legitimate secondary threat so that MSU couldn't solely concentrate on stopping Battle at the end of the game. And it's wasn't a one-game fluke: Brooks is averaging 7.2 rebounds and 13.5 points per game this season -- and he's doing so with an excellent 62.0% eFG. Talor Battle remains the consummate chucker -- completely capable of things brilliant and stunningly stupid. Far too often, it's been the former against MSU, and Spartan fans know what to expect of him at this point.
Kenpom predicts a 67-63 Spartan victory, and God knows we'd all take it at this point. A win here is particularly important because the schedule gets absolutely brutal from here: at OSU, home to Illinois, at Minnesota, home to Purdue and Iowa, and at Michigan. Another loss tonight and an NIT bid isn't even a sure thing. So, yay, optimism.
See you here in the game thread at 7.
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Obviously, a must win
I’m still holding out hope for the NCAA streak to remain intact. Wins tonight, against Illinois, Iowa and Michigan; and either Purdue or Minnesota give us 18 and possibly a 4th place finish in the conference. Hopefully, add one in the BTT and I think we get in the dance.
I wouldn't mind (again) an overtime win. Just don't lose tonight.
Please just once this season, let’s have a blowout win against a bigten opponent. Is it too much to ask for a 15 point win?
I bet T.Battle will make some crazy three pointers, but is it too much to ask for Summer’s ncaa-tournament like performance? I think it’s about time!
That's the most sensible way out of this mess
but I’m still rooting for the season shocking upset @OSU.
"And how much are intangibles worth? 10%? 20%?" - kj@theonlycolors
I noticed that Iowa almost beat Wisconsin
And similar to Purdue, Wisconsin shot lights out against us and apparently couldn’t throw it in the ocean the following game. Nice.
That was a bit of a trap game
You had to think they were looking ahead to OSU on Saturday. Also, the Stinkin’ Badgers are a completely different team at Kohl.
Trap game or not...
they put up 18 fricking points in the first half. Complete garbage.
Jerry Palm of collegeRPI.com
On The Dan Dakich Show today called MSU a train wreck. Can’t figure out why a team with so much talent is so bad.
Dakich asked about MSU and St Johns getting in. He almost laughed at MSU but was more bullish on St Johns and surprisingly pointed to their strength of schedule. Maybe because they beat Duke, I don’t know.
He also thinks the Badgers can play their way up to a 2 seed if they manage to beat OSU.
Is it too early for hard liquor…
Play 40!
Wouldn't a Badger win over OSU help us out RPI-wise?
Since we beat them?
I’m just trying to figure out which of those devoutly hated institutions to root for that game.
I don't know
Not sure it matters if the committee members see MSU as a “train wreck” like Jerry Palm.
Definitely a moot point if there’s no W tonight.
As bad as I want this season to come to an end, I can’t help hoping the team somehow fights their way into the tourney.
I don’t care about the streak, I just don’t want them to go out like this.
Play 40!
Palm overrates Wisconsin every year...
Just like Pomeroy does. Palm has never had much good to say about MSU, even in 08-09 he didn’t think we were 2 seed worthy. Probably because we aren’t the most stat-friendly of programs. The Badgers are. I expect them to raise Pomeroy banners at the Kohl soon. I hope OSU beats them by 30. They won’t, though. Wisconsin will win that game as Sullinger fouls out.
by rook34 on Feb 10, 2011 3:56 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Regarding Talor Battle
Did you mean to say “Far too often it’s been the former against MSU,” because i sure recall a bunch of games where he has been “sick” against our fellas.
You'll beat us
if you can take advantage of Brooks not being on the boards (if he doesn’t play) and can shoot well from outside. We’ve got horrid 3-point defense but a pretty solid game in the paint.
I’ve never felt “good” about playing in your house but I expect this game to be interesting.
Now that the celebration's over, lets go beat Ohio State--Joe Paterno
@Ben_Jones88
The over/under for Taylor Battle should be set at 35.
Considering he only scored 13 last time around, and the way teams are shooting the 3 against us, I’ll take the over.
You know what, I'm going to be the optimist today.
I’ll take MSU in a not-so-close win just for the hell of it. Say, by 8+.
i agree...
With Brooks likely limited, I like MSU by 2-3 possessions.
by rook34 on Feb 10, 2011 3:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions

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