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Ohio State Preview: The Motion Picture

Your MICHIGAN STATE SPARTANS vs. the OHIO STATE BUCKEYES
VALUE CITY ARENA, COLUMBUS, OHIO
TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 15, 2011 - 9:00 PM EST
TV:
ESPN - Brent Musburger (Play by Play), Dick Vitale (Color), Jill Montgomery (Sidelines)
ONLINE RADIO FEED: Spartan Sports Network

As we all know, the central question surrounding Tuesday's game with Ohio State is which cinematic landscape to place it in. Josh (intrpdtrvlr) and I will be in attendance at Crazy Eddie's Mattress Discounters Arena (or whatever they call it) for the game and he has proposed the following scenario to represent the long odds faced by the Spartans in this one (via Twitter):

MSU is Princess Leia. Jared Sullinger is the Empire. I'm lining up @DelvonRoe for the role of Obi-Wan Kenobi. Our only hope.

I see the logic, but frankly I'm concerned that if Sullinger is the Empire MSU might be better cast in the role of the planet Alderaan than as Princess Leia. ("That's what I'm tryin' to tell you kid, it ain't there.")

That's not very encouraging, so in the spirit of vaguely Spartan-like cheesy sword-and-sandal movies, I'm going to propose an alternative: the re-enactment of the Battle of Carthage from Gladiator. A small band of outmanned slaves, thrown into the arena for the amusement of the corrupt empire, works in concert to reverse the supposedly pre-determined outcome. Here's the family-friendly Lego™ version:

This has the bonus of coming already equipped with a canned pre-game pep talk from Izzo: "Whatever comes out of these gates, we've got a better chance of survival if we work together. Do you understand? If we stay together we survive."

Ok, Ok, some actual basketball talk after the jump.

Star-divide

Pomeroy's computers give Ohio State roughly the same chance of beating MSU Tuesday as they gave MSU to beat Bowling Green in the pre-season projections. So, yeah. We'll need to take our inspiration from another source. Let's see, who's beaten the Buckeyes?. . .Wisconsin. In the Kohl Center. Barely. On the other hand, OSU has played several rather close games against some surprising teams, winning by 4 at Michigan, by 3 at home against Penn State, by 5 at Iowa and surviving by one against a Shurna-less Northwestern squad which had the ball with a chance to win in the last possession. They are a fortunate 6-1 in games decided by 5 points or less, so there are chinks in the armor. By Pomeroy's "luck" factor, which looks at the difference between actual and expected wins based on efficiency, they are the luckiest team in the Big Ten so far this year.

But you can still be lucky AND good. As I'm sure you're not surprised to learn, OSU has few discernible statstical weaknesses. About the only thing they don't do extremely well is shoot free throws. But even then, 68% in conference is not really that bad. And they counter this by sending their opponents to the line less than any team in the country. [As an aside, that particular quality is useful in different ways. Once you've established the reputation of not fouling, you, well, get to foul more without being called. This is an extremely valuable arrow to have in one's quiver, even if it means having to let Ed Hightower and company feel that they've "shown you the ropes" to get it. Ugh.]

When Ohio State Has the Ball

They can do a lot of things. They lead the conference in both 2-point (52.3%) and 3-point (43.3%) shooting. Big Ten Freshman of the Year lock and Player of the Year contender Jared Sullinger is a force in the paint like no other in the Big Ten. Not only is he impossible to move off the block at 6'9" 280 (roughly the same size as Derrick Nix) but he has a polished back-to-the-basket game to go with it, along with 70% foul-shooting. If you double-team him he can kick it out to no fewer than 4 other regulars shooting better than 40% from 3-point range, including conference top-5 gunner John Diebler at 48%. Diebler is also the guy most often feeding Sullinger in the post, as detailed by Luke Winn, which makes sense, since teams would be least likely to sag off of Diebler to double down low, so the post entry pass should be there for him.

When they're not playing inside-out with Sullinger and Diebler they still have other ways to hurt you. In freshman point guard Aaron Craft and senior wing David Lighty they have guys who can penetrate and create shots for themselves, and Craft especially can kick it out for a jumpshot. Freshman and former Indiana Mr. Basketball Deshaun Thomas is a sort of energy-burst player, on the court for only 38% of the game but using 28% of the possessions and taking 32% of the shots when he's there. Former McDonald's All-American and 3rd team All-Big Ten guard William Buford is an excellent overall shooter with a line of.476/.435/.805 (2P%/3P%/FT%) whose primary role in this offense is knocking down open jumpshots. Finally, they have a big man who knows his role perfectly in Dallas Lauderdale. His role is to dunk the ball and block shots. He has the amusing distinction of sporting a FG% more than 40 percentage points higher than his FT%. Derrick Nix is smokin' him at the line (49% to 29%).

Did I mention that all of them except Craft are 6'5" or taller?

Amazingly, thanks to the help of a spectacular freshman class and each player's acceptance of his role, this is a team that has improved offensively after losing the consensus national Player of the Year to the NBA. This year's edition of the Buckeyes is actually 6 points per 100 possessions better than last year's Evan Turner show in conference (though offense is up across the Big Ten this year).

As I speculated in an earlier Fanshot, MSU may need to play a lot of straight-up single coverage on Sullinger, thanks to the deadly accuracy of the rest of the team. If that's the case, then this could be a watershed game for Derrick Nix, especially with Delvon Roe being doubtful at best for the game. If Nix can do even a slightly credible job of forcing Sullinger out of his comfort zone and freeing up MSU's other defenders to stay with their men, that significantly increases the Spartans' chances of survival in this game. If Nix gets some quick fouls and Green, Adreian Payne and (gulp) Garrick Sherman have to spend a lot of time guarding the post, it could be a long night.

Just as important as who's guarding Sullinger will be who is marking Diebler. That player will have to be willing to stay with him through endless cuts and fight through the multiple screens the Buckeyes run to free him up. The Spartan who best fits that description is Keith Appling, but Appling, though he can definitely get up, is giving up 4 inches to Diebler. The natural choice would be Durrell Summers, but the thought of that gives me an even worse feeling. I imagine that whatever minutes are given to Austin Thornton and Mike Kebler will be largely devoted to this thankless defensive task.

When Michigan State Has the Ball

OSU's specialty on defense is aggressive man-to-man with a lot of forced turnovers and no fouls. They are currently the top defense in the conference, allowing 1.02 points per trip. Their turnovers-without-fouls mojo is so strong that they haven't had to really excel at anything else in particular to reach the top spot. They're pretty decent at contesting shots, thanks to their length, and they're better against the 3 than the 2, allowing conference opponents to shoot better than 50% from inside the arc. They're a decent but unspectacular rebounding team.

When Kalin Lucas and Draymond Green take it inside they'll have to deal with one of the country's best shot blockers in Dallas Lauderdale, who swats away over 1 out of every 10 shots taken when he's on the floor. MSU's ball-handlers will have to deal with Aaron Craft and David Lighty, who each have steal rates of more than 3%. Sullinger is one of the top defensive rebounders in the country at 27.9%.


So the hill is steep, but Wisconsin has shown that it can be climbed. If Michigan State is going to win this game, most of the following probably has to happen for them.

  • Hang around. OSU has shown a tendency both to feed on the energy of an early blowout (Purdue, @Indiana) but also to keep teams in the game when they don't land the knockout punch. MSU may not need to shoot like they did to start the Penn State game, but they can't have another start like they had against Iowa.
  • Crash the offensive glass. 40% offensive rebounding is probably the magic number here. Northwestern, Penn State and Iowa all hit this figure in the close losses they had to OSU. This would go a long way to extending possessions where there's a scoring chance and counteracting the empty possessions OSU is going to create with their defense.
  • Share the ball. As they showed against Penn State, MSU can shoot the ball. But they shoot it much better when they are setting each other up, rather than going solo. Assist percentage is a pretty good barometer of how the Spartans offense is clicking. A 65% or better assist ratio is probably a good number to look for here.

The X factor, of course, is Josh and me being at the game. I'm figuring that's worth at least .025 points per trip for the Spartans. Hopefully that will be enough to get them over the top. If not, I'll have a long drive home from Columbus to think about what went wrong.

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I wonder if Izzo is playing a little possum

Right after I tweeted that, Izzo basically came out and clarified that Sullinger is going to be covered with the three-headed center monster not Delvon Roe. I wonder if that’s totally true. Is Izzo really going to never leave Roe out there at the 5-spot with Sully? You’re telling me Roe is too small to defend him but Sherman and Payne have the goods because they’re an inch or two taller and Payne has length?

I’m wondering if there’s some gamesmanship here. My prediction is that Sullinger sees more Delvon Roe (if healthy) than we’ve been led to believe.

"And how much are intangibles worth? 10%? 20%?" - kj@theonlycolors

by intrpdtrvlr on Feb 15, 2011 7:20 AM CST reply actions  

If Roe plays and his knee allows it

I’m sure we’ll see him on Sullinger as much as possible. The question is whether his knee could support Sullinger leaning on him all game long. If not, I could see him playing either Lauderdale (though I think Green is a good matchup there) or if he can move OK we may use his length to bother Diebler and just take our chances with Nix/Payne/Sherman against Sullinger.

The only way I see us winning is if we play really good on the perimeter – Sullinger will get his but if we can deny everyone else then maybe we sneak away with a win. We also have to share the rock, as KJ notes, rebound like it’s 2008, and make shots. Having another game where we limit the turnovers would be nice too. I’m not expecting a win here by any means. So long as we play well like we did in the last game I won’t be too disappointed whatever the outcome (unless we have a chance to win and get screwed by the refs – that would be frustrating). If we backslide into UM/Iowa game territory I’ll see that as a sign of bad things to come.

Basically if we play well from here on out we have a shot at beating both Illinois and Purdue at home, plus getting a win over Iowa and U fo M (please let that happen). If we win three of those four I think we make the tournament which is all I ask at this point. If we win tonight that would be lots and lots of butter cream frosting on the cake.

by TheCrestedHelm on Feb 15, 2011 8:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Maybe we can have a perfect storm in our favor for a change

In the movie version of that dream, Summers is in NCAA mode; Green continues to roll after the triple double. Lucas drives the lane and picks up a few fouls on Sullinger. Nix walks the talk. Roe hobbles through a great defensive performance, and Appling cans a few big threes. At at the end, Josh and KJ rush the court.

by donaldo on Feb 15, 2011 8:40 AM CST reply actions  

Authorship

While I would love to take credit for this preview, with it superb blend of cheesy movie clips and trenchant statistical analysis, I must point out that Tim wrote the post.

And, if MSU pulls off the upset, it will be Tim rushing the court with Josh. I’ll be at home, spraying beer around my living room.

Fight for The Only Colors: Green and White!

by KJ@theonlycolors on Feb 15, 2011 9:09 AM CST reply actions  

Believe me, I'll be wearing Green so you'll be able to picke me out!

Another thought on this game – really, I’m probably more nervous about OSU bombing the living jeebees out of us from deep than I am Sullinger. That’s what’s going to be the killer. If I was Diebler, Buford, and the rest, I’d be licking my chops.

"And how much are intangibles worth? 10%? 20%?" - kj@theonlycolors

by intrpdtrvlr on Feb 15, 2011 9:12 AM CST up reply actions  

i'll be there in white.

in last year’s kalin lucas jersey, in the top row of the upper deck, in the corner. the worst seats in the house. but i’ll be there.

by robb. on Feb 15, 2011 9:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Are you in the actual 400s?

I bought my tickets through OSU earlier but prices on places like StubHub have come down quite a bit for cheap seats if someone waited.

"And how much are intangibles worth? 10%? 20%?" - kj@theonlycolors

by intrpdtrvlr on Feb 15, 2011 10:07 AM CST up reply actions  

don't know.

my brother lives in columbus and got the tickets for us. i’m just going to show up and cheer. go state!

by robb. on Feb 15, 2011 2:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes, I'll look for Con-T

I’m so used to reading your previews, in my haste this morning, I just made an assumption. We call all rush the refrigerator for a brew after the upset.

by donaldo on Feb 15, 2011 12:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Roe

I’m not sure Izzo thinks like this, but I would let him rest as much as possible for the more winnable games down the stretch. Aside from the fact that OSU is just a very talented team, MSU also does not match up well with them. their length gives MSU’s guards problems, and MSU has no response for Sulinger, who I think will eat up the underclassmen. Plus Izzo has always been about preventing penetration even if that means open threes, and that plays right into their greatest strength. I hope I’m wrong, but I think we will think it a major moral victory if they keep the margin under 20 points.

by Anderlecht on Feb 15, 2011 10:20 AM CST reply actions  

Thanks for not including the "The"

This could save a disappointing season. Just win, baby!

by MSU1978 on Feb 15, 2011 11:10 AM CST reply actions  

29% FTs?

Sounds like MSU can win a couple of trips by committing fouls 7, 8, and 9 off the ball on Lauderdale. Ianni could be the secret weapon at that point.

by njd on Feb 15, 2011 12:27 PM CST reply actions  

Yeah, with that low of a percentage...

…i’d say foul him whenever he goes to shoot also, thats .58 PPP if he goes to the line. obviously risky though

by one23 on Feb 15, 2011 12:44 PM CST up reply actions  

line

whats the line on this game?

(i wanted to post a video of that scene in blue chips where nick nolte goes berserker, "did you shave points?!?!!!! but i cant find it)

by tbone521 on Feb 15, 2011 1:33 PM CST reply actions  

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