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Percy Gibson, LaDontae Henton, and MSU

In some ways, the high school basketball careers of Percy Gibson and LaDontae Henton have followed opposing trajectories.  Based on his early development and physical dominance, Henton was discussed since his freshman year as one of the best players in his class and a possible MSU-caliber prospect.  At the end of his high school career, he had matured into a scoring and rebounding force yet his height (6’5"?) and only developing wing game led him to be viewed as an outstanding prep player who might struggle to be more than an undersized forward in college.  Percy Gibson didn’t carry as much early hype but finished his senior year playing the best basketball of his life and drawing some statements that MSU may have "missed" on him by filling up scholarships before he broke out.

Now, both have backed out of commitments to the University of Dayton after the departure of Brian Gregory and the big question is would MSU be interested in either one?  As my link today already reveals, I’m pretty intrigued by how this plays out.  The situation leads me to consider the pros and cons of each player joining the MSU roster.  The buzz right now is centered on Percy Gibson with good reason but there’s a case to be made that Henton might even be more valuable. 

More discussion after the jump. 

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First, if you’re anyone besides Tom Izzo, Percy Gibson appears to make more sense in fulfilling a need on the roster as a true power forward.  It wouldn’t be immediate and, with the current post player depth, a first-year redshirt for Gibson might be a smart idea.  However, if Adreian Payne doesn’t stay for four years, Gibson could come in handy for 2013.  A Payne-less 2013-2014 roster is likely to be limited upfront to Alex Gauna (Rs Jr.), Matt Costello (So.), combo forward Kenny Kaminski (So.), and a true freshman (Jabari Parker, fingers crossed).  Though it’s hard to recruit so far out for every possible scenario, adding Gibson there as a RS So. would give MSU a little more cushion and experience.

It should also be said that Gibson has come close to earning this offer on his own merits.  His senior season was his best and he was generally regarded as the star of Detroit Southeastern’s run to the state finals.  You can hit the MSU blogosphere and find plenty of opinions that Izzo would have offered if he’d anticipated Gibson’s continued development.  After all, big men usually take more time to reach their potential than players who compete on the perimeter. 

There’s also drawbacks.  Like many otherwise effective high school post players, it isn’t clear Gibson has the size to compete with MSU’s level of competition.  Though solidly built, estimates of his height range from a generous 6’9" to the 6’6" range.  He also isn’t considered a highly athletic player who can compensate with hops and play above the rim.  As much as Gibson has gotten better and demonstrated a strong work ethic, it’s an open question if he’ll reach a level of play that would make him an asset in keeping MSU at its current level of success. 

As for LaDontae Henton, most observers don’t anticipate a role for him at MSU.  It isn’t that MSU doesn’t know and appreciate the Lansing Eastern star.  Tom Izzo made a reference to helping LaDontae find a home in Dayton during his signing day press conference last winter.  The big mystery around his game is whether he can develop into a perimeter player who can excel away from the basket.  His scoring and rebounding numbers were huge his final two seasons but, the better program he picks, the less likely he is to succeed playing as a 6’5"-ish post player.  Though I think I anticipate the answer (Hint: it’s "No"), it’s worth asking whether Henton can continue to work at becoming a high D1 wing and fulfill Tom Izzo’s desire for another guard.  One possible outcome is a player similar to Branden Dawson yet less skilled and athletic.  Considering Dawson is already on the roster, what would LaDontae bring to table?

As followers of the blog know, I’m a big LaDontae Henton fan.  It’s hard not to like a player who works hard, stuffs the boxscores, and plays with a physical presence.  Though Gibson might make more sense, I’m tempted to advocate for the man they call "Buckets."  If you can end up with another big, powerful hard-working wing player who can grab rebounds, it’s tough to pass that up.  I think in thinner times adding Henton to the roster might have been an easy sell.  In our current moment of recruit cup-runneth-overness, it’s harder to find the room.  If Michigan State insists an adding another guard to the roster for next season, I say roll the dice that ‘Dontae can be that guy.

Of course, it’s possible if not probable that MSU passes on both.  It’s unclear how filling Garrick Sherman’s spot in 2011 would influence room for Gary Harris in 2012.  Many of us always suspected that Harris’ place would come from an unforeseen departure.  That’s happened with Sherman leaving, but does Izzo know something else about another spot?  Would there still be room?  If you factor out Henton or Gibson's scholarship taking a spot from a 2012/2013 player, it’s tempting to suggest offering the better of the two uncommitted players.  The reality is that recruits aren’t added in a vacuum and, despite each man’s attributes, I’m comfortable if Coach Izzo decides to stand pat as well. 

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Can you clarify scholarship rules?

What is the total number allowed?

Is there a max per two year period? I thought there was.

Do you have a official rundown of whose scholarships counted for each year?

by JimmyB! on Apr 13, 2011 2:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Scholarship rules

You can have 13 scholarship players in Men’s Basketball so MSU has one spot open for next year that they could pass on to a four-year player. Of course, MSU could save it as well.

There used to be a 5/8 rule about the number of players you could add over a two-year period but that has been revoked. Nothing like it exists now as far as I know.

We have our own scholarship chart here but it looks like no one has taken off Sherman yet.

Any way you slice it, Izzo has room for Henton or Gibson if he so chooses.

"And how much are intangibles worth? 10%? 20%?" - kj@theonlycolors

by intrpdtrvlr on Apr 13, 2011 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great post, as always.

by SpartanBoiler on Apr 13, 2011 5:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Thanks, Boiler!

"And how much are intangibles worth? 10%? 20%?" - kj@theonlycolors

by intrpdtrvlr on Apr 13, 2011 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Percy...

I don’t know, he looked awfully close in size to the 6’6"/6’7" Kearney. There’s no way he’s 6’9"…so let’s give him the benefit of the doubt and say he’s 6’8" and is likely to redshirt this season…unless you’re planning for one of them to transfer in a season or two, why in the world would you want to have THREE power forward’s in the same class in 2012 when you’re already going to have Payne, Nix and Gauna in the frontcourt depth chart that season?

I just don’t see the logic there.

by LickSplickidy on Apr 13, 2011 6:04 PM CDT reply actions  

I agree on the “class balance” theory on both the size of class and the position of the players. This year’s class is already huge (including the two redshirts) and will probably result in one of the freshman redshirting. There’s no need to use another scholarship on someone who won’t contribute immediately – which would be the case with the front court logjam.

by SpartanBoiler on Apr 13, 2011 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

But I haven’t seen either guy play much.

I’d guess if Gibson shows up, that means Iz doesn’t think Harris is coming.

by rook34 on Apr 13, 2011 7:50 PM CDT reply actions  

I dont want either

I want Gary Harris. I want him bad. I expect there to be a transfer from either Dwaun Anderson or Brandan Kearney (whichever redshirts if they do) and that will let him make an immediate impact. However I dont want to risk it and neither seem to be major prospects that a top 5 program needs. Let them find a mid major where they can succeed. Maybe they can head to GT?

by Loneytunes on Apr 13, 2011 9:39 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm with you

The most pressing need for next season is an experienced PG IMO.
If that’s not available then why add another project big or ‘tweener and consume a scholly.
That being said, we do have to consider a future without Harris. Whether he comes or not, somebody has to rebound for this team after losing Green and Roe.
Besides, it’s not like Harris wasn’t being heavily pursued before Sherm left a scholly open.

"the game is out there, and it's play or get played. That simple" - Omar

by spartyball on Apr 13, 2011 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

If we dont get Harris we should stick

and use that scholarship on Jabari Parker as originally planned. Now some may say theyd rather have Parker than Harris but I (as of now) have no preference and have hope we can get Parker anyways, although I also see we need a PG.

by Loneytunes on Apr 14, 2011 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't see any reason we have to choose

Honestly, if you only have one scholarship in 2013 because of getting Harris and you have to choose between Parker and one of the Michigan point guards, I say go with Parker. You patch things together for a year with Trice and Kearney (both juniors) and get someone in 2014. Parker is too good to pass on.

However, my guess is that MSU has at least two spots for 2013 one way or another.

"And how much are intangibles worth? 10%? 20%?" - kj@theonlycolors

by intrpdtrvlr on Apr 14, 2011 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rebounding...

Aren’t PF’s Kaminski and Costello coming aboard to replace PF’s Roe and Green? And Gauna is only going to be a soph after the above two graduate. We have quite a bit of size in the pipeline coming our direction. No true center size (then again neither is Gibson) but a lot of good PF size.

by LickSplickidy on Apr 14, 2011 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah but

How good will they be on the boards? Costello’s built a lot like Sherman but hopefully won’t have the same ball security issues. I don’t know much about KK other than he apparently can shoot the J or Gauna for that matter. Maybe they can board, I don’t know.
I just hope Dawson doesn’t end up having to be our best rebounder as a soph.

"the game is out there, and it's play or get played. That simple" - Omar

by spartyball on Apr 14, 2011 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

rebounding....

with all the size on the wing that Izzo has recruited that’s now showing up, like with the 2000 championship team, I don’t think we’re going to have to depend solely on the frontcourt players to do all the rebounding like we’ve had to do the past few seasons.

Costello looks to be a rangy and active rebounder though.

Kaminski? I’m not sure yet.

by LickSplickidy on Apr 14, 2011 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

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