Can Kalin Lucas model Charlie Bell's overseas success?
Kalin Lucas is officially a professional basketball player, and that's something he should be very proud of.
Too often, the NBA is considered the end-all/be-all of basketball success (Terry Foster, I'm looking at you). The fact is, it's absolutely not. Many American players have long, successful careers and make great livings by playing in overseas leagues. Lucas signed with Olympiakos in Greece, one of the more famous teams in Europe (that is the club Josh Childress signed with when he briefly left the NBA and former NBA players Rasho Nesterovic, Vassilis Spanoulis and former Pistons draft pick Andreas Glyniadakis are on the current roster). Many recent former Spartans like Chris Hill, Kelvin Torbert, Drew Neitzel, Goran Suton and Marquise Gray, to name a few, have had great professional success despite never playing a minute of NBA ball.
Undoubtedly, though, Lucas' ultimate dream is to play in the NBA. And if he's paid attention to Spartan history, he has a perfect model for how to get there: Charlie Bell.
Bell found himself in a pretty similar situation in 2001. Like Lucas, he was a well known key player on a team that had sustained success throughout his college career. Also like Lucas, the fact that he was well known and the fact that he'd been around logging heavy minutes for four years gave scouts ample time to pick apart all of the weaknesses in his game.
The 2011 NBA Draft was considered by many to be weak, considering several star underclassmen elected to stay in school rather than enter the NBA when the league was likely heading for a lockout. Still, Lucas went undrafted. The 2001 draft, which Bell was a part of, was also pretty weak. Five of the seven All-Stars the draft produced were picked outside of the lottery. Only five of 29 players picked in the second round managed to hang around on NBA benches for more than a year or so. Bell, who is still in the midst of a NBA career as a useful backup, situational defender and good locker room guy, was not one of those players selected.
How did Bell make the NBA? He went to work. In high school, he was a record setting scorer at Flint Southwestern. He never became an elite scorer at MSU, but his game did start to become more well-rounded. His defense improved. By the time he was a senior, he was competent enough to give spot minutes as a point guard (a necessity considering he wasn't tall enough to be a full-time shooting guard in the NBA). He improved at Michigan State, but once he became typecast as a complimentary player, that label stuck, and it caused NBA teams to overlook him.
After playing briefly with the Dallas Mavericks on a 10-day contract in the 2001-02 season, Bell went to Europe and played with top clubs in Italy and Spain. He helped Benetton Treviso, another storied European team (Toni Kukoc, Vinny Del Negro, Andrea Bargnani and former Piston Zeljko Rebraca are among notables who played for the club), win an Italian League title. He became an all-league performer overseas, but more importantly, he learned to play with the ball in his hands more and he became a much more physical perimeter defender.
It just so happened that when the Milwaukee Bucks needed a backup combo guard who would bring toughness and defense to the team, Bell had molded himself into exactly that player.
Many young players resist going overseas because, even if the pay is better than the NBA D-League, there's a perception that chances at being seen by the NBA are better in the D-League than in another country. That could be true for some guys. But for guys like Bell and Lucas, guys who were big names in college, if they go to tough leagues overseas and produce, the NBA won't forget.
Lucas has an advantage coming out of college that Bell didn't: he has a position. To NBA scouts, Bell was viewed as a shooting guard in a point guard body. Lucas is definitely a point guard, even if he does need some work on his ability to create for others. He's already a good shooter, he has a decent first step and he takes pretty good care of the ball. And, like Bell, he's not only going to a well-known team in Europe, he's going to one where he could have a chance at an expanded role right away:
At Olympiacos he will step into the shoes of former Euroleague MVP Milos Teodosic, who left the club earlier in July.
Lucas' basketball career won't be defined by whether or not he makes it to the NBA. But if that is, in fact, his ultimate goal, he's in a very good position to make it happen. If he follows Bell's model, identifies weaknesses in his game and goes about working hard to improve defensively and to master running a halfcourt offense overseas, he'll have a shot. Point guard remains one of the toughest positions for NBA teams to find contributors and guys who can play defense, take care of the ball and shoot will usually be found at some point.
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Good for him!
I’m glad he chose to do this instead of playing in the D-league. He’s a great player with a good head on his shoulders, and he also has a will to win. I hope we see him back on our shores in the future.
He could have gone pro early in his MSU career.
It was a great run and thanks for coming back and keeping the dance streak alive.
Wishing him good luck
I don’t know how well Lucas’ penetrating game will translate overseas, where zones and packed lanes await him. If he can diversify his perimeter game and stand up to the physical defense they allow in Greece, an NBA team could certainly do worse. His make-up would seem to fit well for an NBA reserve, since he’s always been more of a facilitator at heart.
he can certainly play at an NBA level when he's healthy...
…but it took most of the season last year for him to get his legs back under him after the achilles injury. i wouldn’t be surprised if his european career is short and the NBA comes calling.
Why rip Foster?
I thought the article had a lot of good points, it saddened me and was completely valid.
Except that it was factually incorrect
He missed many nba players drafted form Michigan. Al Horford, Wilson Chandler and others.
by Maceo Baston on Jul 26, 2011 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Also,
Besides missing MSU spurnee Malik Hairston, he completely ignores the foreign factor.
Per basketball-reference.com, the three round 1988 draft had 4 foreign born players, and three of them (Rik Smits, Rony Seikley & Rolando Ferreria) attended college in the US. The 1989 draft saw only Vlade Divac & Dino Radja going, the 1990 draft saw only Tony Kukoc & Stefano Rusconi as foreign born draftees, and the 1991 draft only Luc Longley, Zan Tabac & Dikembe Mutombo Mpolondo Mukamba Jean-Jacques Wamutombo as international draftees. And obviously Dikembe played at Georgetown.
Point being, there are only a few more spots in the draft now than in 1989 – 91 (54 vs 60 now; ’88 had 75 picks), yet there are more players from overseas getting drafted – in the Yao draft of ’02, 15 of 57 picks were foreign born; 21 of 58 picks in ’03 draft foreign born; and in this past draft, 13 of 60.
Though last but not least, why is the number of players that matriculated through a state’s HS system & made it to the NBA the baramoter for a state’s “clout” in the basketball world? Like the author of this article mentioned, many players have hugely succesful & long term playing careers overseas. Also, many former HS & college level players find sucess in coaching, administration, marketing, or even (gasp!) NON-HOOPS RELATED work after finishing their college careers. So to limit the measure of a state’s “clout” in an individual sport to how many are among the 60 NBA draftees any season seems to me to be not far off from saying, “Such & such a school is a bad sports school bc only x number of guys went pro in their sport.” It’s far too narrow a measuring stick, and disregards success people have had in other walks of life.
Because he got major things wrong
Writing a column that says Michigan is not producing NBA caliber talent anymore, and then leaving out arguably the three best Michigan-born NBA players recently drafted in Al Horford, Wilson Chandler and JaVale McGee is inexcusable. He also left out lesser known players from Michigan who were nonetheless drafted: Cory Hightower, Chris Crawford, Robert Whaley.
In an earlier draft of the column, Morris Peterson is referred to as ‘Maurice Peterson.’
If you’re going to make the case that basketball talent in Michigan is down — something I disagree with, incidentally — then you can’t do sloppy research to prove it. I thought his column was really lazy.
by patrick_hayes on Jul 26, 2011 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Good timing
The longer the lockout goes, the more players are going to try to sign overseas. As many teams as there are, there’s still a finite number of roster spots, so some players will inevitably be left out. Great timing on Kalin’s part with this move and here’s wishing him the best for a couple seasons before getting The Call.
"You can look at the dinosaur that weighs you down or you can look at the big pot of gold (and) try to say, 'You know what? I'm going to try to live up to expectations.' " -Tom Izzo, Iron Mountain Philosopher
Agreed completely
I think it was a wise move on his part, their is no certainty that we’ll even see an NBA or NBDL season this year, and with a limited number of roster spots for American players in Europe, I’m glad to see KL1 make this decision while the opportunity is there. If the NBA season is delayed or even cancelled this year, there will surely be other players like Lucas who have the talent but weren’t drafted, who miss out on the European opportunities bc of waiting.
IMO, 1st round picks shouldn’t go there, for risk of injury (and bc traditionally, NBA 1st rounders are guaranteed a 3 year deal, so why risk losing that guarantee), however, I would think 2nd rounders, undrafted FAs, & marginal players who have been in the league but whose contract ran out after last season should seriously consider the Euro option – DaJaun Summers of the Pistons is a prime example.
Καλίν Λούκας
Huh.
Tonight's going to be a good night.
by Spartalytical on Jul 26, 2011 7:29 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Ballinger
Any discussion of MSU players going overseas and having a perfectly fine career needs to include Adam Ballinger. Went to Australia, met his wife, apparently became a citizen, is still playing, and has a chance to be on the 2012 Australian Olympic team. Pretty interesting/funny interview here and his wiki page here.
"You can look at the dinosaur that weighs you down or you can look at the big pot of gold (and) try to say, 'You know what? I'm going to try to live up to expectations.' " -Tom Izzo, Iron Mountain Philosopher
Kalin Lucas is not replacing Milos Teodosic. Teodosic was the starting shooting guard of Olympiacos. Lucas will be replacing Jamon Gordon who the backup point guard last year.
He will backup up Vassilis Spanoulis at point guard.
Also, Chris Hill, Kelvin Torbert, Drew Neitzel, Goran Suton and Marquise Gray are not considered good players in Europe. Not even close.
Finally, this article made Charlie Bell sound like some kind of star in Europe. The actual fact is that he was an average Euroleague player at best, and nothing more than that.
Yup, average
Led the top Italian league in scoring one year and the top Spanish league in scoring the next. Only average Euroleague players lead the two top European leagues in scoring in back to back seasons.
You've obviously forgotten to convert to metric
Tonight's going to be a good night.
by Spartalytical on Jul 29, 2011 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions

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