Game Thread - The Michigan State Spartans vs. The Purdue Boilermakers
by intrpdtrvlr on Jan 21, 2012 9:43 AM CST
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THE JACK BRESLIN STUDENT EVENTS CENTER -- EAST LANSING, MICHIGAN
SATURDAY, JANUARY 21, 2012, 12:00 PM EST
TV: ESPN
ONLINE RADIO FEED: Spartan Sports Network
So, who is ready to get back to the days when wins flowed like science from the lips of Chuck D? How about Branden Dawson grabbing offensive rebounds and getting garbage points? How about Brandon Wood nailing open threes? Brandan Kearney continuing to be a surprise off the bench? Brandon Walsh home with Kelly Taylor like he belongs! Whoa, sorry, got carried away.
There's a lot to check out today besides the adventures of people named Brandon/-en/-an. I assume today is Robbie Hummel's final trip to the Breslin as a Purdue player but I'm looking into loopholes for this. Derrick Nix continues to show his improved conditioning and we learned that Adreian Payne has a ceiling for his. Regardless, those guys will be needed today to take advantage of size in the post.
Interesting note already: According to Dan Dankich, Purdue was stuck on the tarmac for three hours and will be headed straight to the Breslin Center after arriving this morning. Will this influence and hamper their play?
The rules: No links to illegal game threads, no slurs, and be groovy to one another. Very groovy.
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They rode the bus!
Ouch! That’s gotta hurt.
Three hours on the tarmack, then canceled flight. Loaded onto a bus at 4:45am for the ride to East Lansing. I’m tired just thinking about that trip.
Advantage- Spartans
Use it and bring the fire & rimstone.
No slurs?!?!
But I’m drunk I can’t not slur my speech
by WorldSeriesTiger on Jan 21, 2012 10:26 AM CST via Android app reply actions
Slurring your speech
Is more than acceptable here. If Purdue leads by double digits at any time in this game, I might do the same.
by Pete Rossman on Jan 21, 2012 10:39 AM CST up reply actions
LOL drunk at this hour
Wow you must start early, or had a hell of a Friday night. But either way, props to you for maximizing the weekend!!!
25 years of the 3-point line?
Man I’m old.
by spartanbballfan on Jan 21, 2012 11:01 AM CST reply actions
Not ready to play, again
Izzo’s too sedated, too. Bad, bad, Start.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 21, 2012 11:08 AM CST reply actions
Hey, a basket!
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echoing everyone else
lethargic looking start
by trivialstuff16 on Jan 21, 2012 11:09 AM CST reply actions
Izzone needs to step it up too
I know it’s early on a cold snowy Saturday, but c’mon. I expected everybody to be pumped up from the pregame alumni event.
It snowed like crazy last night
But the sun is shining now. Though I know during my college career sunlight on a saturday morning wasn’t always a good thing
by trivialstuff16 on Jan 21, 2012 11:10 AM CST up reply actions
Wake up, guys.
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Thornton's consistent minutes seem to be paying off
in his now-more-consistent shooting.
Was I watching the same replay they were? Because it didn't look like it to me.
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Our rebounding has been abominable so far.
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Appling needs to learn to jump stop in the lane
Almost got another charge and a guy was wide open in the corner
Wow nice 3 AT
Also, Nix in & immediately leaves 55 open for a layup on 1st play, then fouls him on the shot on the second
Our interior D is having problems.
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"The same guy never makes three in a row"?
/presses mute
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by SpartanDan on Jan 21, 2012 11:19 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
I miss Gus Johnson
And Special K. He should be allowed to do every Spartan game, no matter the network
I was away from the TV momentarily
Dakich, I assume?
I read someone suggesting he should join the March Madness crew because he’s clearly the best announcer on ESPN and I just shook my head.
There's the inside basket we've been waiting for
If Nix could up his minutes to 30 a game, that’d be fantabulous.
Jimmy Rayl!
K-town represent!
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Wood went to my high school
He has grown A LOT in his career
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by BoilerTMill on Jan 21, 2012 11:23 AM CST up reply actions
Nice
He’s a lot more athleic & aggressive to the basket than most of us realized – I think Spartan fans hear, “Shooter from a mid-major” & just assumed not an athlete
At Kokomo he was a score first, second, and third guy
Even a bit of a team cancer. I remember a game where he showed his attitude and fouled out with 2 points and we were down 20. After he left, we came back to cut it to two.
His senior year was probably the worst year in 100 years of our program. we had him and that’s about it. Very glad to see his growth though
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by BoilerTMill on Jan 21, 2012 11:26 AM CST up reply actions
Watching Appling get bumped in transition
reminds me of how good Lucas was at drawing that foul on that same bump. Appling could really use that skill.
Oh man, he immediately gets hurt
I feel terrible for him
The elusive creature has retreated back into his hiding place, the bench.
/blaming him zero, injuries suck.
by RewertsSpartan on Jan 21, 2012 11:26 AM CST up reply actions
GET A REBOUND FERGODSAKES
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OMG all these long boards on bad bricks bouncing right back to Purdue
Except that one by Hummel on which he got the whistle, that was all him getting past his man
Well when you brick a long distance shot that badly
It will either bounce too high over the front line to get it & back to the shooter, or a line drive will fly off at a crazy angle. But the one Hummel got fouled on was all on our guy not bodying him
Giving up those offensive rebounds looked bad
but those Hummel jumpers took some crazy bounces off the iron.
Watching Purdue reminds me that I feel sorry for the way Hummel's injruies played out
It’s too bad that trio of Moore, Johnson, Hummel, really only got to play half a season together in their college primes before Hummel got hurt.
by trivialstuff16 on Jan 21, 2012 11:28 AM CST reply actions
Yeah that really stinks
I wonder if Izzo put him in bc he’s an Indiana kid & wanted to give him a chance to play against guys he played against in HS?
Purdue has a 60% OR right now, we have 0.
Granted, they’re bricking so terribly that guys who are in position for where rebounds normally end up have no chance, but still.
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by BoilerTMill on Jan 21, 2012 11:33 AM CST up reply actions
Did they just T up Payne for hanging on the rim?
I hate that rule, unless it’s obviously disruptive. I don’t think he knew there was nobody under him.
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YOU CALL THAT A CHIN-UP, DAKICH?
Just shut the hell up already, you’re proving your idiocy every time you open your damn mouth.
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by SpartanDan on Jan 21, 2012 11:33 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Weak call
The ball was right below him, looked like he was looking down to make sure he didn’t come down on it or a person getting it
At some point Purdue will start hitting their shots
.We need to take advantage now
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Great to see us
playing some Tom Izzo style basketball, going hard for rebounds and rushing down the court.
Ummm....we're getting out rebounded
and have given up way too many offensive rebounds
Only beginning?
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by SpartanDan on Jan 21, 2012 11:37 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I think Dakich
has some good things that he says. He also says some stupid things but he’s definitely better than 80% of Color guys.
I've been really impressed with the defense so far.
Thornton has actually done a really good job on Jackson so far.
Purdue has 11, yes 11 offensive rebounds
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 21, 2012 11:39 AM CST reply actions
To be fair, some of them are "they missed so badly that no one in sane rebounding position has a chance."
So it’s not quite as abominable as the numbers make it look.
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Guarantee We'll be hitting the boards much harder in the second half
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He should've just tried to finish it.
Weird pass to try and throw.
by The Birchman on Jan 21, 2012 11:41 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah his best move there would have been to
pump fake until someone goes up, then lean into him & get a whistle. But that’s a lot easier said than done
I don't mind him going up with it.
That’s where he normally draws his fouls.
by The Birchman on Jan 21, 2012 11:41 AM CST up reply actions
But as a senior leader he should have kicked it out to let the team reset.
by RewertsSpartan on Jan 21, 2012 11:42 AM CST up reply actions
::shrug::
I mean, it wasn’t like he puled up for 3 or anything.
He was in the paint with a chance for a layup. That’s a fine play.
by The Birchman on Jan 21, 2012 11:44 AM CST up reply actions
Nice to join you all for another MBB Saturday
Christ this has been sloppy. Looks like neither team got more than 3 hours of sleep.
He's starting to look llike that Josh Smith guy from UCLA
from the first round NCAA game vs us last season
He's been very good in the pick and roll lately
That’s a hard play to defend with Nix’s big body setting the screen and rolling to the hoop
Dawson can make things happen with sheer athleticism
But he doesn’t look that much more comfortable in the offense than he did early in the season.
He's getting there
He had a nice last few minutes. My prediction — he’ll have a sophomore breakout season on the scale of Appling.
by Pete Rossman on Jan 21, 2012 11:47 AM CST up reply actions
I'm really, really hoping the light goes on sometimes between now & early March
If he can start to perform at the level we know he can, combined with all-stars Green & Appling, this team could be lights out
Hopefully a larger scale
I think he may be a junior bloomer. That seems to be the year at which Izzo players come out big lately.
Before the season began, he was getting Raymar comparisons
Raymar was a good freshman, and was playing like a first team All-American until he got mono his sophmore season. If he can become pre-sick Raymar, wow watch out . . .
I would be surprised if that didn't happen
A year of off-season weight-lifting and coaching will do wonders. I would expect Kearny, Gauna, and Trice to also make huge leaps.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 21, 2012 11:50 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah he looks like he has no handle or jump shot
I was looking in the archives recently & there was a post up there from one of the guys that follows recruiting closely, and he came away with major concerns about handle & shot, and said he scored just by out-athleting everybody
That's good and bad news
It’s bad because it limits what he can do at this point. It’s good because I now think he stays here at least 3 years.
that is odd...maybe some dog house time for Nix from this week?
by Drew Perkins on Jan 21, 2012 11:48 AM CST up reply actions
I love Izzo and am not complaining about him
But just noticing that he’s been a little off his game the last 2 games. Why not call the use it or lose it time out at the end there?
by Chitown Spartan on Jan 21, 2012 11:47 AM CST reply actions
what is this "use it or lose it" timeout?
Do you not get to keep all 5 timeouts in the second half if you haven’t used them?
Nope. Can only carry over 4.
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that seems really, really silly
Why not just give them 3 first half and 3 second half timeouts then or something? If you get 5 for the game, you should get 5. For the game.
Do you really want the end of the first half to take as long as the end of the second?
If anything I’d argue for knocking it down to four timeouts total.
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no, I don't.
But if you don’t get the 5 timeouts for the game, then change the way it’s described or something. “you get 5 timeouts for the two halves combined, but a maximum of 4 for the second half”. It just doesn’t work for me.
I'll admit I'm shocked
That this is effort they give after the Michigan loss. It looks like they expected to win. Reminiscent of last year’s team. Scary.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 21, 2012 11:54 AM CST reply actions
Not to disagree completely, but I'm wary of eyeball measures like "effort"
because they’re necessarily colored by the perceptions of the viewer. Problems on execution are corrective, technical issues. Effort is a personal indictment of the players. How can you be sure which one you’re seeing?
Effort was meant to be a broader term
I meant I’m surprised by the game. I thought they’d be a much more focused effort, especially when i came to defensive lapses and crisp passing. The rebounding hasn’t been great, but a lot of those have been long rebounds.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 21, 2012 12:02 PM CST up reply actions
The defensive effort has been there, though.
I mean, they HAVE only given up 24 points.
by The Birchman on Jan 21, 2012 12:05 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not terribly dissapointed...
I like some of the things I’m seeing. We’re defending well, sporadically are clicking offensively. Purdue is a good team AND they are being forced to take a ton of long shots which results in long rebounds which we aren’t getting, and nor should we be expected to.
OT: a HS football coaches opinion from yesterday
so this is an anonymous HS football coaches opinion on how things went down yesterday at that Coach’s clinic (reported by Hondo Carpenter):
http://spartannation.com/2012/01/21/a-first-hand-account-from-a-state-of-michigan-high-school-football-coach-on-the-actions-of-mark-dantonio-at-the-coaching-clinic/
yeah
definitely a pro-MSU version of how it went down, but better than just random conjecture and a couple choice quotes put out by a journalist.
I have a hard time reading anything by Hondo
Every Spartan player or coach that he writes about has the potential to be the best player or coach that MSU has ever seen. Ever.
by RewertsSpartan on Jan 21, 2012 12:24 PM CST up reply actions
His MSU goggles are bad for a fan, let alone a journalist.
by RewertsSpartan on Jan 21, 2012 12:25 PM CST up reply actions
this is at least twice
I remember him posting something with anonymous sources.
frustrating to read a controversial article with no one named.
Yeah it was the "expose" on how the B1G looked into Gholston's actions in U-M game
What I would like to see is, the video that MSU purportedly made of 37 plays on which Lewand grabbed Gholston by the facemask. Something like that you think MSU would let leak out
Hondo knows his stuff
But I wish he’d cut back on the cheesy stuff. I don’t really want to read four paragraphs of how someone is a great kid and one paragraph of actual analysis.
Yup
Purdue had 12 offensive boards and went 8-32, so it’s more like 8-20. It’ll get better this next half.
by Pete Rossman on Jan 21, 2012 12:00 PM CST up reply actions
LOL I wanted to make sure I gave the proper credit
https://twitter.com/#!/PeteAtTOC/status/160781891472080896
I'd like to see more fire in the belly from Payne
Yeah, the shot of him disconnected on the bench was only a thin slice, but in general he seems to play somewhat passively.
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Dawson seems to be struggling with change of pace from HS to BIG
I like his response on that play though
Mannn I wish Payne could just go up with it
when he gets the ball, he ALWAYS has to bring it down & put it on the ground to collect it. That allows the D to collapse on him, as well as reach in to knock it out
I think many players are terrified of the charging call that is so prevalent these days
by Drew Perkins on Jan 21, 2012 12:09 PM CST up reply actions
I hear ya
but in AP’s case, I just think he doesn’t have big or strong enough hands to control it and go up with it right away
He just hesitates, right?
With his athleticism, one quick turn and that’s a dunk.
He’s afraid of making a mistake it seems — very tentative.
by The Birchman on Jan 21, 2012 12:09 PM CST up reply actions
Rough game for us
Sadly, we did what we needed to do int he first half on Green and such, but we can’t buy a basket.
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Has shooting been a problem at all this year?
From what games I’ve watched, it didn’t seem like it it.
Is this just one of those games?
by The Birchman on Jan 21, 2012 12:10 PM CST up reply actions
We've had some awful stretches
PSU was terrible. Wisconsin, butler, and Xavier we had 10 minute stretches where nothing went right
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by BoilerTMill on Jan 21, 2012 12:15 PM CST up reply actions
Purdue Shooting
If Purdue had made some of those early shots it changes the game completely. MSU was way out of it at the start.
Impressive rebounding. Shooting, not so much.
Yeah alot of the shots aren't even close right now
And I think that contributed greatly to the high number of offensive boards. Plus Green got two baskets for you guys!
Not to be a dick, but with the way Purdue is shooting right now, it should be a 14 point game
Would love to hear what was said at halftime…
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 21, 2012 12:10 PM CST reply actions
My guess
REBOUND THE **** OUT OF THAT ****** BALL
by Pete Rossman on Jan 21, 2012 12:11 PM CST up reply actions
I still think something like this
Okay guys, we need to get out there. Really need to get going. Paul what are you doing? You acted like a girl out there! What are you a girl or somethin’? Jackson, come on man! You gotta get yourself together, this is…what are you a girl or somethin?
Halftime speeches were discussed on the Hang Up and Listen sports podcast
One of the opinions was that the best pro coaches just coach at halftime, trusting that the group of guys he has are grown, serious men who don’t need speechifying. I wonder how much of that holds for college ball.
You know, they were consider flying from West Lafayette to East Lansing
And people wonder why college athletics bleed money.
Yes
This is the shot Dawson has to learn to make on a consistent basis, then the sky is the limit for this kid!
by Flaming Mo on Jan 21, 2012 12:14 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Worst rule in basketballl...
horsepoop that you can call a timeout while squirming around on the ground w/o possession of the ball.
Oh, how I was hoping AT thunder dunked that!
by Drew Perkins on Jan 21, 2012 12:15 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
The Izzone sure seems quiet today
Was hoping they would be louder, especially with all the football recruits in the Breslin today.
Bad timeout Purdue
They have the possession arrow. Someone did the math when Iowa blew a TO like that 30 seconds into the game, and it was like this:
A timeout one a tie-up = 0.5 posessions, and at 1 ppp, that’s = 0.5 points.
I guess Spartan Radio reported
Byrd has a slight sprain.
So glad it’s not serious. That kid deserves some good karma.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 21, 2012 12:18 PM CST reply actions
Phew that's good to hear
But seriously, that guy has had some poor luck, hopefully he’s gotten that all out of the way
So does anybody know if there is a video of the pre-game alumni thing?
Saw a tweet from Cowboy Andreas that 80 former players & student-managers expected
It would be like that old commercial for "The Ladders" recruiting website
When two guys were playing tennis and like 50 ran onto the court to play with them
I saw a tweet
That Herzog was there along with several others. Nice that Tom could make it back.
by Pete Rossman on Jan 21, 2012 12:20 PM CST up reply actions
You guys are shootin very well
We’re not. that’s the difference, really.
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Yes
Tough day. Those long offensive rebounds in the first half helped keep it close for a while.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 21, 2012 12:21 PM CST up reply actions
Damnit another long rebound off a badly bricked three
That’s the only thing keeping this from being a 25 pt game right now
Important that we keep the pressure on
No lapses, please
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gotta give credit
I really like Green
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Hummel's a class act, too
It sucks so much for you guys that he got hurt last year. Could have been really special.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 21, 2012 12:26 PM CST up reply actions
I loved watching Hummel/Johnson/that third guy
Hated seeing him get hurt a second time.
that's right
E’Tuan Moore. Those 3 were so much fun to watch together.
Was really hoping that Payne could be next JJ
Physically he looks like him, but sadly, after what we learned this week, I dont think that can ever happen.
Payne has small lungs
or limited lung capacity. http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf/2012/01/michigan_states_adreian_payne_1.html
I asked my dad about this, he’s a respitory physician (aka lung doctor), said it’s effect is similar to asthma. Also said there is nothing he can do about it
So many game stoppages
I hope we don’t use any of our time outs this half. Yikes.
by Chitown Spartan on Jan 21, 2012 12:26 PM CST reply actions
Purdue shooting 11-45 right now
And with only 4 assists. THat tells me that Purdue is exhausted and has no legs at all today.
whole flight/bus thing is their fault
why don’t you look at the forecast and fly out Fri Am or Thurs PM???
They are getting what they asked for
Green has an outside shot at a triple-double
6 points, 10 boards, 7 assists right now
Lots of time to get lots of work for our depth
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 21, 2012 12:34 PM CST up reply actions
Would love to see extended run for Gauna, BK, Dawson & TT
Shame that Byrd got hurt & can’t get in, too, though we probably will get Ianni time soon
No, but
It is a time to get guys like Gauna, Byrd and Kearney some work.
Also, might be nice to find away to build confidence for Travis Trice.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 21, 2012 12:40 PM CST up reply actions
That is just a flash of the future
for Branden Dawson. More to come.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 21, 2012 12:41 PM CST reply actions
Great putback dunk by Dawson there
The Purdue folk are gonna be hating that, they haven’t gotten over him (or Harris) coming to EL
She was a little known women's recruit from the south of France
But apparently cleaned up the offensive glass for Suzy Merchant’s Spartans
Love watching that interaction
between Izzo & Green.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 21, 2012 12:43 PM CST reply actions
Can I tap out now?
Much respect to you guys. we did not have it in the second half.
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Better Days ahead.
Hope you guys can get to 9 conference wins- that’ll be enough to get in.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 21, 2012 12:45 PM CST up reply actions
I think we can get 10
That’s what I’d like to see. We’ve got a sweep of Iowa and they’ve provent hey can be dangerous.
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by BoilerTMill on Jan 21, 2012 12:47 PM CST up reply actions
props to you for staying this long
I know how this feels. I went through our season last year.
Green back in
probably for the triple-double try. Keep him in until the 4 minutes TO, then take him out regardless if he has it
Oooo
Wish Dawson wasn’t talking to Painter. That’s not cool. just let your play do the talking, kid.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 21, 2012 12:46 PM CST reply actions
I would hope Izzo gets him out
if he saw that. No need.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 21, 2012 12:47 PM CST up reply actions
Kinda sad about Hummel
He doesn’t look the same to me, which is understandable. He had a lot of potential.
by WatersDemos on Jan 21, 2012 12:49 PM CST up reply actions
And from all I've read a good leader
How would we feel if Green’s career had been shortened?
I hope they make they tournament so He gets his chance. Karma owes him that.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 21, 2012 12:50 PM CST up reply actions
I'm guessing Painter wasn't giving him an option.
Might as well rest him.
by RewertsSpartan on Jan 21, 2012 12:50 PM CST up reply actions
Time to bring in the walk-ons
Maybe leave Byrd out there to get some run, Gauna too, but sit everybody else on a scholly
Holy shit sick pass TT to Dawson no looker
How many times in their AAU career do you think they did that?!?!?!
Also nice effort by Byrd to get the offensive board, then tap out his miss to TT to keep it alive
Nope, sorry
Ted Valentine & Ed Hightower are elsewhere today.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 21, 2012 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
Only 1 Spartan below 50% from the floor
and it’s Byrd’s 0-1.
Impressive.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 21, 2012 12:55 PM CST reply actions
True.
All road games are tough, they’ll really need that one.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 21, 2012 12:59 PM CST up reply actions
great job, gents
This was a tough one. I think it will be a lot closer in Mackey
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neal beshshears!
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Alright. Back on Track
and now officially tied for first again.
Wow well the H&R blog blowing up about how poor a sport Izzo is
I’m certain that, if this game was at Mackey & Purude up 30 with 8 minutes to go, that Painter would still play his guys. 8 MSU guys in double digit minutes, and a 9th with 9. That’s going to the bench early & often
But I guess when your team gets whupped that soundly, you have to complain about something
No apparent glaring reffing issues either way, and if it wasn’t for all those luck offensive boards, this could have been a 45 point game
that happens after losses.
BHGP was doing the same when we blew out Iowa.
BTW I paused the 'Bama-KY game
When backboard clock was visible, and guess what? It was 0.2 seconds ahead of the clock on the TV
what are you gonna do?
apparently violence isn’t an option
"Long range from the baseline, Swish!"
by spartyball on Jan 21, 2012 1:11 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Rising Up
losing streak is Swept Away
now back to a Lazy Afternoon
I was interested in seeing the Dawson-Painter handshake but the camera cut away.
Oh well, I’m sure the pitchforks and torches will be out for the rematch.
"Long range from the baseline, Swish!"
Yeah according to our friends at H&R,
Izzo is and always has been classless rat-bastard thug who for unknown reasons is overrated & respected, and Dawson chastised Painter for not “cutting the check.”
Ohhhh
that’s what Dawson said.
I figured it was something like that.
Thanks for confirming.
"Long range from the baseline, Swish!"
From comments in the H&R postgamer:
Also, burn Dawson. What a punk. Keep your mouth shut. I hope we hard foul him next game so he can’t walk.
Their 'classy' response doesn't make me feel any better
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 21, 2012 1:46 PM CST up reply actions
That sample is one of so, so many
But guess what? MSU back in first & incontrol of it’s own destiny in the B1G.
Must defend the home court, and the @ Illinois game will be huge
HUGE
Agreed.
Appling shutting down Paul is they key. I like that matchup.
Just so glad I don’t have to see Mike Tisdale. That guy drove me nuts.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 21, 2012 1:50 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah we got a rough draw not getting Illinois at the Breslin too
So I could see that being the key matchup the rest of this season.
Also, am I the only one excited to see what Nix can do against Sullinger? We play them in Colombus soon, and of course, Senior Day game is hosting tOSU this season (thanks, B1G schedulers . . . )
Err
I would LOVE to say yes (I think Sullinger is a punk with terrible sportsmanship) but I think his quickness abuses Nix. Nix may score a little, but he can’t come even close to guarding him.
Are you kidding? Of course the Big 10 puts Ohio State in Breslin for that last home game. I’ll bet we get Ed Hightower, too. This league all too often seems hell-bent on favoring Ohio St.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 21, 2012 1:54 PM CST up reply actions
The way Nix is playing right now
I think he could do something, especially on offense, against Sullinger.
Nix is taller, longer, & stronger than Sullinger, in fact, I think Green is only a smidge shorter than him. Sullinger is super athletic on O, but IDK if he can handle someone as big as Nix is and is playing right now
Double edge sword
Nix/Payne can’t guard him, Green could but would get in foul trouble. They don’t need to use him on Green.
I hope you are right- getting 1 against Ohio St would be huge for tournament seeding.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 21, 2012 2:05 PM CST up reply actions
That is true.
He’s not a classic 5. Is there anyone physically in college who can stop Nix on offense? (other than Nix himself?)
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 21, 2012 2:12 PM CST up reply actions
He's playing like
Big Josh Smith from UCLA did against us in the first round last season. Just getting down low, holding his hands high, and using his big body & strength to keep defenders off him as he lays it in off the 6" vertical
Izzone Comment out of line
But this internet post isn’t much further behind.
No need to take anyone out of the game, or foul hard because of revenge. Just stupid.
The further you get away from it and enjoy it as a fan the more you realize that burning anger is really stupid. Even for Michigan players. I never want anybody to get hurt.
Yup when their guy went down hard on the tie-up with Wood
nothing but “I hope he’s OK”s for him on here
WOW terrible foul by Kentucky
Up four with 25 seconds and fouling a great FT shooter on the inbounds in the backcourt. Let’s them get 2 right back without losing any time
From looking at the Twitter feed
A lot is going to be made about the Dawson-Painter exchange.
Hate that it would in anyway sully a strong performance by both the team & Dawson.
Hope he apologizes.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 21, 2012 1:17 PM CST reply actions
Apparently someone in the Izzone
also said something about Hummel tearing his ACL again.
Classy.
This s**t has gone too far.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 21, 2012 1:21 PM CST up reply actions
Student sections say some nasty stuff
They really reflect poorly on the school. And not just the Izzone, it’s every student section in the country, though that by no means excuses saying crap like that. It’s just the immaturity of 18-22 y/o kids.
And in this case
it was an individual person in the student section who yelled the ACL thing.
The whole game the Izzone were chanting “robbie, robbie” when hummel was taking out the ball, and later they were calling on Painter to put Hummel back in at the end of the game.
They’re both just butt hurt from the beating. But I really do feel for Hummel, he’s had a rough 2 years.
"We were a little fat and sassy" -Tom Izzo
by itsalwaysunnyinEL on Jan 21, 2012 1:39 PM CST up reply actions
I thought they were chanting for the football recruit
“We want Dod-son” or something like that. At least that’s what could be heard on TV
Yeah, I heard that too.
I was up in the nose bleeds, but I thought I also heard them calling for hummel to come back in with 6 min left or so, and then they booed when painter put in someone else. Who knows… maybe I was imagining that, it was sweet either way.
"We were a little fat and sassy" -Tom Izzo
by itsalwaysunnyinEL on Jan 21, 2012 1:45 PM CST up reply actions
I thought it was because he played like crap
So they wanted him and his 0-for-11 back in there.
"I believe in a good kick in the ass. This— I believe. " -- Walker Percy
I tweet about stuff sometimes @jackhitts.
Yep
That’s what I thought/think too.
"We were a little fat and sassy" -Tom Izzo
by itsalwaysunnyinEL on Jan 21, 2012 5:54 PM CST up reply actions
Per Hammer & Rails
He said, “Nice team Coach.”
WOW, I can see how that was so offensive. But again, when your team gets used to mop the floor like that, you have to find anything to flame with & latch onto it
Still
I want to give them the benefit of the doubt as 19-21 year olds, but we really need to keep that in check. Too far is too far.
We shouldn’t even have to talk about this now.
I’d rather be talking about our second half and Michigan getting hammered at Arkansas.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 21, 2012 1:29 PM CST up reply actions
Amen
This should be a non-issue, but as we all know, he who screams loudest is who controls thedialogue (here, it’s whiny Boiler fans).
But yeah, M looks terrible right now. Is Arkansas any good? I don’t know if they’ve done anything since the days of Big Nasty leading them to a Natty in the 90’s.
Just Play
No need for players to talk to opposing coaches ever until they hit the handshake line. Now, no matter what, that’s the storyline of Dawson’s game. It is detracting from his good defense and highlight reel dunks.
His best game as a Spartan
Looked active on D, had that nice jumper from just inside the 3 pt line, and at least three sick highlight reel dunks, not to mention the tough liner he forced up after splitting between two guys.
I wouldn’t consider this his breakout game, but he clearly looked better today than at any time this season
Did you see how 21 on Arkansas
Got that ball high, in transition, with one hand, and laid it in for the and one?
I soooo wish Payne could do that. He easily gives up 2-3 shots/game by putting the ball on the ground to gather it and allowing the D to collapse on him.
well he shouldn't be saying anything to a coach
whether it was nice or nasty, he’ll probably need extra security in Mackey
"Long range from the baseline, Swish!"
Yeah people in W Lafayette
take their sports WAYYYY to seriously. Like, way way too seriously. H&R had an open thread with a link to a live press conference for some 4*’s commit yesterday. And it had over 300 comments on it!!
Overall Defense
Was just ok. Purdue missed a lot of open shots early that could have changed the game.
Good win with a lot of football recruits present
Plus I know I can count on you guys to find the dark cloud on a sunny day.
http://pittsfieldindex.blogspot.com/
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Pittsfield-Ratings-Index/142673082487903
by PittsfieldIndex on Jan 21, 2012 1:39 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Lob City
Would love to see more oops with Dawson and Payne. They’ve got the hops to do it and next year with Harris we’ll have 3 guys that can make those plays.
Advice for Dawson and Payne
DUNK EVERYTHING. Just do it. Dunk it.
and mini lobs to Nix too!
"We were a little fat and sassy" -Tom Izzo
by itsalwaysunnyinEL on Jan 21, 2012 1:49 PM CST up reply actions
Jesus. The sour grapes at H & R is unreal.
I get it. They’re upset because they just got literally destroyed and embarrassed.
But to wish that Dawson tears his ACL/ gets injured on a deliberate hard foul at Mackey/ “burns” (whatever the hell that means), is both juvenile and classless.
You can’t sit there and say the Izzone is the epitome of classlessness while saying the exact same things about one of our players with no remorse. What a bunch of children.
Grow the fuck up.
The thing about it is
Student sections say dumb stuff. All the time… Kids in college do dumb stuff… all the time. It’s part of life.
One dude over there was saying that he “expected a letter of apology” from MSU for the one kid that made an ACL tear comment.
Seriously? That’s like demanding the administration for a letter of apology from the University President after going to a frat party where ONE DUDE was a douchebag to you.
They really need to grow up about some of this stuff.
"I believe in a good kick in the ass. This— I believe. " -- Walker Percy
I tweet about stuff sometimes @jackhitts.
Like I said earlier in this thread
There are a few people over at H&R who give the rest of us a bad name… which is ironically what MSU fans were saying when they posted over at H&R. I think if someone did say that to Hummel it is pretty classless that individual would say that. But I respect Izzo and MSU fans too much to think that is the way they all act.
Yeah, i understand
Especially after a loss. Things get heated. And obviously it was classless for that one kid to say it to Hummel. But I don’t think it’s worth getting bent out of shape over what one faceless member of the Izzone said in the waning minutes of a blowout.
Either way, you guys have a pretty dedicated community over there and I mostly like reading what you have to say. Just today was a bit of insanity.
"I believe in a good kick in the ass. This— I believe. " -- Walker Percy
I tweet about stuff sometimes @jackhitts.
We all have our bad days.
Just look at our team for example. The true character of a person or group is shown in how they respond to those bad days. Time to move on and play better next game (or comment better, etc).
"Hummel for three..... BULLSEYE!!!"
Oh boy
Popped over to Hammer & Rails to say GG and apologize for our immature student section (re: Hummel) and they were spitting fire.
Probably shouldn’t have engaged their fans right now but didn’t think it was cool for anyone to hope a player is injured.
To all Spartans, I’d say wait before you post anything over there. Yikes.
Makes me feel better I didn't do that
I feel bad about the lack of class Dawson and the Izzone showed, but they seem unrealistic about how good their team is. They are lucky to be 14-6 right now. It’s hard to imagine them making the tournament, which should not be surprise to anyone but their fan base.
I like Matt Painter, he seems cool & down-to-earth, but the talent isn’t there this year.
It’s a shame Hummel got hurt, they had a real nice mix last year.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 21, 2012 2:10 PM CST up reply actions
Yep
Dawson shouldn’t have said anything. Just play the damn game.
Izzone shouldn’t have chanted anything to Hummel. How can you possibly root against a kid who plays fundamentally sound and everyone likes?
But stupid begets stupid I suppose.
I thought it was just one guy who said something stupid and everyone else was doing "rob-bie" chants
which seemed to be positive. I know there was only positivity for him my last couple years when I was in the Izzone.
Yeah,
they are starting to turn on each other, boiler cannibalism.
"We were a little fat and sassy" -Tom Izzo
by itsalwaysunnyinEL on Jan 21, 2012 2:11 PM CST up reply actions
I would like to apologize on behalf of the respectful H&R members.
We have a few people who take every little comment and blow it out of proportion. You guys played great and it is a shame the current Purdue team isn’t talented enough nor rested enough to give you guys a good game today.
I hope if someone did in fact say something to Robbie that he is found though. I can’t imagine why someone would say something to such a nice guy.
I hear you man.
I started reading through the thread a little bit and it turned out to be only two or three guys that were really fired up.
The rest were level-headed. Apologies from both sides are probably in order. I’ll be holding no grudges, that’s for sure. That wouldn’t be fair to a lot of the good Purdue fans out there.
by The Birchman on Jan 21, 2012 2:38 PM CST up reply actions
M still down 16
and looking not good, but Arkansas looking great. I don’t know miuch about the Razorbacks, but was not expecting this.
I can't find that game
I assume it’s on the SEC network? (Do they have a network?)
Ahh
Found it on CBS. The ESPN games are all B12 and BE right now.
I am a little torn, I do love seeing Michigan lose.
Oh Novak
Why don’t you just mug him next time.
When a player is in the air you can’t foul him like that, it’s incredibly dangerous.
That deserves an ejection
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 21, 2012 2:22 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah that is a really rough foul
Given Novakc’s history as anything but a dirty player, I give him the benefit of the doubt that he was going for the ball & just couldn’t keep up with the other athlete, but WOW, that looked nasty.
I thought this at first too.
But watching the replay, he reached back and followed through.
He was 3 feet from being able to get the ball…
by The Birchman on Jan 21, 2012 2:25 PM CST up reply actions
They have played well against ranked teams
I’m torn here. I want Michigan fans to understand that their strongest factor is their coaching, but I hate the ‘first place’ team in the B10 getting embarrassed on the road.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 21, 2012 2:13 PM CST up reply actions
them losing does hurt our RPI a LOT
bc not only do we play them twice, but many opponents we play twice also play them twice. Domino effect
Still
Tough sell to get me to root for Michigan.
I usually don’t give UM a second thought, but I was harassed endlessly (on Facebook) the other night after we lost by their dbag fans who hadn’t watch a minute of basketball the whole year before the last 5 minutes of Tuesday’s game.
For a school that dominated us in football for so long, they seem to have developed such an inferiority complex about MSU.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 21, 2012 2:22 PM CST up reply actions
This game I can go either way
If they lose – hooray! Our rival lost, and that will likely keep them from passing us in the rankings.
If they win, oh well, won’t hurt our SOS & RPI (not that our SOS needs any help)
Holy crap Novack just decked that Arkansas guy
He went down hard, Novack nailed him in the face with the elbow. Still down after at least a minute
One of the ugliest fouls I've seen in a long time.
Pretty dirty play by Novak.
by The Birchman on Jan 21, 2012 2:23 PM CST up reply actions
he should be thrown out
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 21, 2012 2:23 PM CST up reply actions
F'ing punk
isn’t even bothered by it.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 21, 2012 2:24 PM CST reply actions
Novak isn't dirty
Think it was an attempt at a hustle play, but it doesn’t mean it wasn’t a dumb foul.
I don't think Novak is dirty.
I think that play was.
And it was bad…
by The Birchman on Jan 21, 2012 2:26 PM CST up reply actions
not buying that. Sorry.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 21, 2012 2:26 PM CST up reply actions
I'd like to see him try that at State
He’d need security to get out of the building.
I like Beilein, but no class here leaving him in.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 21, 2012 2:25 PM CST reply actions
Arkansas Defense
I haven’t seen much of this game, but how are they solving Michigan’s offense? Zone?
Yeah some 2-3
Also, extending the D with a lot of full court pressure. But fucking Novack with another triple now.
Arkansas transition impressive
They’re really running the court from what I see. I guess that’s the key to beating a defense like UM.
Yeah it really helps against a zone
if you can beat it down the floor in transition before they can set up. And like most SEC schols, Arkansas looks like it has quick, long guys that can get down the floor.
This makes me feel better
Joe Rexrode @joerexrode
Izzo on Dawson talking: “If he was, I’m gonna handle it.” Looked surprised at question. “If he did, my apologies to Matt.”
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 21, 2012 2:29 PM CST reply actions
Yeah RR on fire with the Painter thing
and also the supposed Izzone comment about Hummel’s ACL.
FWIW, Dawson said he didn’t say anything, but on TV it looked like he did.
Bench
Is where Dawson starts the next game, my guess. And I’d probably be ok with it, he’d be back in after a few minutes with the message received.
This is high praise too
Andy Katz @ESPNAndyKatz
Circle Feb. 11 and March 4 in the Big Ten. Best two games will be OSU-MSU. Top two teams. Two Final Four contenders.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 21, 2012 2:30 PM CST reply actions
Hardaway
does nothing for me as a player.
He seems to lose his composure often, too.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 21, 2012 2:34 PM CST reply actions
He has the tools
From a physical and skill perspective but all he needs is his focus to get in line and he’s a pro.
i agree about the physical talent
but not the basketball skills. For being the son of the guy who had such a killer crossover it had a nickname (the “UTEP two-step”), Hardaway has no handle.
Exhibit A, just now
Barrelling into the lane, drawing coverage, but instead of dishing it or pulling up, just plowing into people for an obvious charge
My Michigan friends
think he might make the lousy decision to go pro after this year. Can you say undrafted!
It will be interesting to see how Bielein handles real talent. His recruiting class next year is the best he’s ever had. he does well with players that fit his system. We’ll see how 5 star recruits mesh with that. I’d guess he’ll be fine, but it wouldn’t surprise me to see them struggle to get enough shot for everyone.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 21, 2012 2:40 PM CST up reply actions
Let's encourage Burke
One and done, get out of Ann Arbor plz.
A line up of McGary, Hardaway, Robinson, Burke, Morgan? would be pretty interesting for Beilein. They could do some real damage with those players.
There is a chance McGary never makes it to AA
He is one of a small handful of players who, under the new NBA cba, could actually go straight to the pros:
He’s 19 y/o (will actually turn 20 right before the draft), and was SUPPOSED to graduate HS in 2010, but was held back twice, including once in HS. The rule is, the player must be age 19 by draft date, and either one year removed from HS, or when he would have graduated if not held back.
Based on eveything I’ve heard about him (bad teammate in HS & AAU in Indiana, transferred twice before transferring to current prep school, local TV tried to do a reality show about him & parents, he has his own blog on ESPN.com), this kid sounds like not a great teammate, and I could see him going straight to NBA this season.
A chance, but a snowballs
I thought he considered an immediate jump and then picked UM after he settled on college. I guess i’d be really surprised if he didn’t suit up next year.
Well as we all know
It’s impossible to know what’s going on in the decision making process of 17-20 y/o kids, especially stud athletes
Yikes
A guy held back twice getting into an academic school like Michigan.
That really bothers me.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 21, 2012 2:57 PM CST up reply actions
And who only made grades once he ended up at an East coast
basketball factory prep school. Nothing to see here, folks . . .
Wow so McGary has his own Wikipedia page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitch_McGary
Which lets us know that, among other things, his current prep school has eight (8!) D-1 commits, but doesn’t mention the grades issues (because Mitch or his dad probably created the page).
Burke
Has Arkansas been forcing him into jumpshots? (3-14 from the field)
He got into the lane at will against us. Against athletic / quick PG’s we’ve had some real issues.
And to think...
Beilein picked him up off of the recruiting scrap heap
by The Birchman on Jan 21, 2012 2:56 PM CST up reply actions
I hate him
He’s a more active Austin Thornton.
I can't believe how easily
Missouri is handling Baylor in Waco. I didn’t see this coming. Missouri is not a road team.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 21, 2012 2:56 PM CST reply actions
Good foul Arkansas
M not in bonus yet so it makes sense.
Do they go for the win on the final shot, or a quick two so they can foul if they miss?
OMG wow that ball was nearly in
The announcer even called it in until it rolled out. So M goes 1-1 on a week when both games came down to the best player on the losing team missing a great look at the buzzer that would have won it
Holy F.
That went in and out.
Gutsy performance spurred on by Novak’s terribly dirty foul.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 21, 2012 3:01 PM CST reply actions
I hate hate hate giving them credit
but nice job battling back.
Arkansas is a bubble team in a weak conference however. Wonder how much this home win helps them.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 21, 2012 3:04 PM CST reply actions
Tweet: (hopefully not too little too late)
Branden Dawson @219MadeMe
Big win today. We snapped a two game losing streak & I have no problem with Coach Painter, he’s a great coach & I respect him.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 21, 2012 3:05 PM CST reply actions
Back from the game
This makes up for the game I went to last year where they beat us by 30+ points. Dawson was amazing, he had the crowd going nuts today.
Those who believe in telekinetics, raise my hand - Kurt Vonnegut
Spartan fans (specifically MSUDersh)
I’d like to apologize for our (and my) comments over at H&R. There was no need for it, and it was just as bad if not worse than the comments that got Painter fired up. I still have a great amount of respect for MSU basketball, and I think most Purdue fans do. Please don’t let that firey exchange sway your opinions about the rest of our fanbase. I definitely won’t let that happen about the Izzone. Good luck the rest of the year, and we’ll see you guys again in a month!
Jeesh what happened over there?
Are we doin battle?
E and Seth Green at the casino?
"Long range from the baseline, Swish!"
Not quite sure what happened.
I know I read too much into a comment and got a little ticked at MSUDersh, but we’ve since kissed and made up. And I really hope we’re not doing battle. I think a lot of Purdue fans have respected you guys for awhile. I hope that doesn’t change.
Not MSUDersh
But no worries. I think it’s expected that 1-10 out of 100 fans are um, very passionate, about their team.
Beat UM for us plz.
We'll do our best.
As part of the Paint Crew, I can personally say I’ll be ready to go.
"Hummel for three..... BULLSEYE!!!"
HAHA understood
and thanks, believe me, I know what it’s like to be testy after a bad loss. I think you guys have a solid squad, I like the guard Jackson a lot, it’s just really tough to win on the raod in the Big Ten.
Not to mention, the situation regarding getting to EL did your team absolutely no favors, I think they had no legs & thats why the shots were so off.
Agreed
I didn’t expect us to come within 10 honestly. We had a 2 game win streak going up there, you guys were coming off a 2-game losing streak, and we’re not nearly as good of a team this year as we’ve been in the past were the three reasons I thought MSU would win solidly. The travel debacle really just cemented that prediction.
"Hummel for three..... BULLSEYE!!!"
FSU up 72-70 on Duke with 26 seconds left
can they beat both UNC and Duke? Would that help us more than hurt us?
sounds like Coach Izzo got a little pissed at the presser
also sounds like the Izzone has yet another scolding coming
I think Delvon Roe even took a shot at them on twitter
rough year for the Izzone
"Long range from the baseline, Swish!"
Chris Allen currently with 14 points on 11 shots
for ISU vs. TT on ESPN2 right now. BTW he’s #4 on that team (as opposed to #3 at MSU)
Hopefully we won't play them in the NCAA tourney
I could see Allen going off on us.
After the game, why not check out www.zazzle.com/donnierocky*
He's not really a postseason performner
in 3 seasons and fourteen (14!) NCAA tourney games at MSU, he averaged 5.7 ppg on 32.5% shooting, 33.3% from 3, with 1.6 rpg & 1.3 apg.
His best game was the (now vacated) ’08 Sweet Sixteen game vs. Memphis, he went off for 20 but fouled out late. Thanks for cheating, Derrick Rose. MSU could very well have had ANOTHER Final Four that season.
Joe on the Painter/Dawson/Izzone stuff
http://noise.typepad.com/hey_joe/2012/01/this-whole-painterdawsonizzonehummelizzo-thing.html
"I believe in a good kick in the ass. This— I believe. " -- Walker Percy
I tweet about stuff sometimes @jackhitts.
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