Game Thread -- Michigan State Spartans at Illinois Fighting Illini
by Pete Rossman on Jan 31, 2012 5:27 PM CST
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PrintMichigan St. Spartans at Illinois Fighting Illini, Jan 31, 2012 6:00 PM CST
ASSEMBLY HALL -- CHAMPAIGN, ILLINOIS
TUESDAY, JANUARY 31, 2012, 7:00 PM EST
TV: ESPN
ONLINE RADIO FEED: Spartan Sports Network
Y'know, I could really do without these long spaces between games. I'm sure the breaks help MSU improve, but what am I supposed to do to entertain myself? Read? Volunteer? Pssh. This game is against an Illinois team that has been near unbeatable at home, losing only to Wisconsin, and near doormat-status in true road games; their only win is at Northwestern by 1.
It always seems like some Illini player blows up against MSU, but luckily Brandon Paul got his out of the way early. If I had to guess one plaer to go off against the Spartans, I'd pick Joesph Bertrand. I think Nix and Payne both have the size and athleticism to contain Meyers Leonard on the inside, where Illinois is at its most efficient (51.6 2PT%). If the Spartans can make the Illini shoot threes, that may be promising as Illinois has only made 31.9% of its long range shots this season.
One more thing -- The Spartan Radio Network is reporting that bot Draymond Green and Brandon Wood have the flu, meaning increased playing time for Brandan Kearney, Russell Byrd, and possibly Travis Trice if he can go. If you needed a cause for trepidation, there it is.
This is the game thread. You know what to do -- no links to illegal game threads, no slurs, and be cool to one another. Enjoy the game everyone.
GO GREEN, GO WHITE, BEAT ILLINOIS.
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Playing a road game in the state of Illinois while wearing home whites with the next game being Michigan. I’ve seen this movie before. Hated it!
Plus we’re down a point guard just like 2 years ago and now there’s a flu factor too.
Great…
Illinois’ season is on the brink. Either they give up completely and get their coach fired or they put together another made for ESPN perfect game to save their season.
I wonder which it’ll be.
I hope it’s not the latter.
I need a drink.
"Long range from the baseline, Swish!"
UGH
I HATE DAN DAKICH. RUINS EVERY GAME.
Looks like another game on mute.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 6:02 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I don't care what anybody says
I like Tirico as an announcer
by MSUDersh on Jan 31, 2012 6:02 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Agreed
Tirico is a pro.
Dakich is an idiot.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 6:04 PM CST up reply actions
Looks like the Illini knows Burr is on their side
Trying to involve him in the offense
by MSUDersh on Jan 31, 2012 6:04 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Looks more like first to 45.
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that's not a good start
Reminds me of whatever game where we missed over a dozen layups/dunks
I'm glad it went our way
but I hate all the charging calls this year.
Out of control.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 6:06 PM CST reply actions
I think players are looking for more charge calls
Because refs are letting bigs get away with less contact on drives than before.
This call on Payne just shows that. Guy runs into him and there’s a foul call.
Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude
If Payune falls down, it's a charge
He steps backwards, it’s a block
Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude
Jim Burr
should be in a retirement home, not on the court.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 6:08 PM CST reply actions
LOL
Awesome. I wonder if he sounds like Ed Asner.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 6:10 PM CST up reply actions
Rough game early
Have to finish those bunnies inside. But I like trying to get it down low to draw fouls on Leonard.
by MSUDersh on Jan 31, 2012 6:09 PM CST via mobile reply actions
We always shoot terrible here.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 6:10 PM CST up reply actions
This is painful..
also.. still HATE that they can call a timeout while on the ground without possession.
Damn payne gave up the huge dunk
But that was a bad timeout, eventhough we have the arrow.
by MSUDersh on Jan 31, 2012 6:11 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Hopefully we shoot better than zero percent the restof the way.
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well if we get back to our average of 50%
We should make the next 7 in a row (incl Payne’s 3)
by MSUDersh on Jan 31, 2012 6:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Didn't know Payne had the long distance shot
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he showed that
1st game of his freshman season
I think if you leave any player that open
You’ll see them take that shot
Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude
Supposedly he hits them all the time in practice...
but he’s basically been told to hold off because Green is the big man who is supposed to take 3s this year. Expect pain to replace green as the 3 point big man next year.
Stupid foul Wood
And even though he made it, Payne should never, ever again take that shot.
We need to get it inside & draw fouls on Leonard. Cannot keep letting him change shots & force jumpers from centers.
by MSUDersh on Jan 31, 2012 6:13 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Disagree
If they’re going to play off Payne that much from outside, and he has the green light, that’s a shot he has to take. It’ll help free up the middle.
by Pete Rossman on Jan 31, 2012 6:15 PM CST up reply actions
If you can make 'em, take 'em
though he better have Izzo’s okay before shooting those. Plus I’m always a fan of a big man who can shoot from range.
who is the hot chick shooting?
Sound off at the bar on commercials
by MSUDersh on Jan 31, 2012 6:15 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Appling didn’t get tripped there?
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 6:16 PM CST reply actions
Nice to join you all for another MSUBBALL occasion
I generally have bad memories of our team playing in Champagne.
Nice transition 3 for Wood.
Worst thing about playing Illinois
is having to look at Bruce Weber’s always-agaped mouth.
Made it almost 6 minutes
before having to mute Dakich.
I miss Steve Lavin.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 6:18 PM CST reply actions
Illinois is giving us every opportunity to stretch this lead out
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Sight lines are always goofy at Illinois.
Although with the students wearing blue instead of orange, it’s probably less bizarre.
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We're just missing some close shots
Hopefully those go in later
sure hope
we start making layups sometime this half
Draymond
looks a little sluggish tonight. Damn flu.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 6:20 PM CST reply actions
These guys all need to be putting Green's Plus in their OJ each morning
The stuff works.
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Damn lot of touchy fouls on us
Not any on them. What is team foul situation, 5-1?
by MSUDersh on Jan 31, 2012 6:20 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I see that Illinois blue themselves
Also, is it just me or is the ball super inflated today? It’s taking some seriously funny angles off the backboard…
If you're crazy, so am I.
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Holy Crap
Payne was getting hammered on that possession
the whole team was, but of course it's not a foul
then Thornton touches someone and is called
And then Payne just got basically bear-hugged, no call.
This is getting absurd.
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I try to limit my swearing here.
That said: FUCK YOU JIM BURR FUCK YOU.
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Jim Burr
is an old corrupt incompetent a-hole. How can any league in their right mind trot him out there.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 6:23 PM CST reply actions
When did Green get T'd up??
Oh just now, F Burr
by MSUDersh on Jan 31, 2012 6:24 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Green just took himself out for the rest of the half
Not helpful
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What the hell was that T for?
"I believe in a good kick in the ass. This— I believe. " -- Walker Percy
I tweet about stuff sometimes @jackhitts.
Green probably mouthed off about the call.
Which is unfortunate since that was the one call the entire game that might have been right.
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I missed it the first time around
Then saw the replay and realized it was probabaly not an outrageous T.
"I believe in a good kick in the ass. This— I believe. " -- Walker Percy
I tweet about stuff sometimes @jackhitts.
is jim burr the same guy that reffed the wisconsin game?
"Be an analyst Skip dont be a douchebag"
-Terrel Suggs
Fixed.
That is all. Fixed.
F’ing Big 10. They just need to control results.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 6:24 PM CST reply actions
Never assume malice when incompetence is a sufficient explanation.
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by SpartanDan on Jan 31, 2012 6:26 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Ok.
I guess.
It’s just so GD blatant in every road game.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 6:27 PM CST up reply actions
That said, sufficiently advanced incompetence is tough to tell apart from malice at times.
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Jim Burr is awful...
Always has been , always will be. The king of anticipation calls cause he’s too old/out of shape to see what’s happening.
I don't think the T by itself was a bad call
Green was very demonstrative. But i understand his frustration
STFU Dakich
This game is 7-1 fouls for Illinois 10 minutes in
Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude
so weak that a T is also a personal in college
Double whammy
by MSUDersh on Jan 31, 2012 6:26 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I like that, actually
Makes them hurt more, which they should
Thinking at the margin
Green’s foul troubles might not make us that much worse given that he’s apparently got the flu
Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude
illini already in the bonus
Amazing. Time for appling, wood, trice & at to start raining 3s
by MSUDersh on Jan 31, 2012 6:27 PM CST via mobile reply actions
make up call
Thanks, ref (sarcarstic)
by MSUDersh on Jan 31, 2012 6:27 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Seriously
that’s supposed to be the benefit of crashing the boards, going inside, taking it up strong etc. And we are not getting rewarded.
This reminds me of the Wisconsin game. And as frustrating as that was it did turn out the right way
by trivialstuff16 on Jan 31, 2012 6:29 PM CST up reply actions
HEY JIM BURR GET OFF YOUR KNEES YOUR BLOWING THE GAME
"Be an analyst Skip dont be a douchebag"
-Terrel Suggs
this game is infuriating...
MSU keeps missing cause They’re being FOULED
Most of the blatant ones I've seen have been off the ball, actually.
Not all, but most.
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ALERT THE MEDIA
We have a foul on Illinois.
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You only hear "little brother" from contradictory M fans (generally nonalums) who are preoccupied with MSU
So I don’t mind it. It’s an outlet for my contempt.
I just don't understand
why the players aren’t allowed to decide the game.
No one wants to listen to my ‘fixing’ argument, but I need someone to explain how it get so one-sided.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 6:31 PM CST reply actions
SI did a story a couple years ago
Exploring why home court advantage was a real thing. they found that the players performance varied very little home vs away. For example teams shot free throws and field goals at nearly identical statistical rates.
The difference: Officiating. Home teams tended toget way more calls than road teams.
If I can find a link in their archives i will post it
by trivialstuff16 on Jan 31, 2012 6:33 PM CST up reply actions
Our shooting has been terrible
but Illinois has not looked very impressive either
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yeah
Illinois TO’s are helping to keep us in it.
Offensive rebounding is keeping MSU in it.
by SpartanBoiler on Jan 31, 2012 6:33 PM CST up reply actions
5 on 8 ball
With our all-american reff’d to the bench, and we’re up 2 and have the rock.
As long as the shots start to fall, and we continue to limit their 2nd chance opps, we should be ok.
by MSUDersh on Jan 31, 2012 6:33 PM CST via mobile reply actions
We should not underestimate
Illinois’s ability to be mediocre. It’s also the first half. Just don’t let the fouls pile up on any other player, and get back in the second half when the team totals reset.
Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude
Here come Kearney
Let’s see if he can spark us like he has been doing
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 6:33 PM CST reply actions
hey guys dont hate on jim burr so much after all he did learn reffing from this guy
"Be an analyst Skip dont be a douchebag"
-Terrel Suggs
I wouldn't doubt it at all
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 6:34 PM CST up reply actions
Only 3 Spartans have scored.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 6:34 PM CST reply actions
Zero
from Appling & Green
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 6:35 PM CST up reply actions
It might actually help us at least in the short run
He didn’t seem to have his legs and he sometimes tries to do too much. This is a game where his absence might not make as great a difference.
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With all the complainging about B1G officiating
This tends to be why MSU goes so deep into the tournament. MUCH looser officiating. We always struggle with refs who want a tightly controlled environment and of course that’s all you see in this conference. If we can win games like these then you know we’re going to dominant in March.
It isn't tight control that is the problem...
it’s lack of consistency and calling it differently for each team.
This.
I don’t care much if a ref has a particularly tight or loose style, as long as it’s consistent. (Hightower is maddening because his style is so different from everyone else’s, but he’s at least reasonably consistent.)
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Hitting the nail on the head
So many Big 10teams (Wisconsin, Illinois) are created by officiating.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 6:37 PM CST up reply actions
terrible call on Payne
Come the fuck on refs
by MSUDersh on Jan 31, 2012 6:36 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Refs are going to try and even this up in the next few minutes
Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude
This game is almost impossible to watch
It’s all about officiating. and it shouldn’t be.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 6:39 PM CST reply actions
How the heck have we had so many air balls?
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?
We have something like 3290 offensive rebounds already.
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MSU is outrebounding Illinois 22-11 and MSU has an OReb% of 65.
by SpartanBoiler on Jan 31, 2012 6:43 PM CST up reply actions
It would probably be better if this game were blacked out
Not a great recruiting tool.
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Damnit Wood you have to shoot that
Or not make the pass to Nix at least, he needs, to know that nix is not rolling for a pass but getting rebound position & has his back to him.
Then stupid foul by Dawson. I like the aggression but he has to be aware that every whistle is Illinois shots now.
by MSUDersh on Jan 31, 2012 6:42 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Yeah, with Nix triple-teamed that pass was never ever going to work.
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I can't watch anymore
I really hope we win, but this game has lost all legitimacy.
Why not call it even and let the best team win?
Why must B10 officiating influence every game, especially road games when the road team is clearly superior talent-wise?
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 6:42 PM CST reply actions
when we're shooting as poorly as we are
He’s as likely ti score from the bench as anybody on the court is.
by MSUDersh on Jan 31, 2012 6:47 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
that was it? that deserved a tech? players do that all the time
"Be an analyst Skip dont be a douchebag"
-Terrel Suggs
At least we're shooting 100% from the charity stripe
Problem is we’re not getting any foul calls.
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I think you mean burned at the stake.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 6:46 PM CST up reply actions
You have a funny way of spelling "given a one-way ride on the next rocket to the sun".
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Did the espn commentator just say
that the refs were letting the teams play? Did my TV mysteriously change channels?
Dakich praising these refs might be the final straw.
He does occasionally have a worthwhile insight, but mein Gott, the amount of complete and utter inanity you have to wade through to get those nuggets …
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Shot selection by both teams has been poor
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To be fair, when every shooter is maimed unless he's from 25 feet out
it’s hard to get a halfway decent shot off.
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I don't get the
Myers leonard love. Is this guy seriously an NBA player?
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 6:47 PM CST reply actions
He's tall, I guess.
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I don't watch the NBA at all
so I have no idea if he can play there, but I would have thought those guys should be able to take over games in college and he can’t
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 6:50 PM CST up reply actions
I don't trust guys who have a last name as a first name.
After the game, why not check out www.zazzle.com/donnierocky*
Hasn't been very impressive tonight
He’s been hacking all of our bigs on defense and we’ve kept him under control on our end
Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude
This was the most painful half of the season...
It saddens me how far up mSU could be if they played better …
That is totally shocking..
so well reffed.
that was digusting
But i honestly am not convinced that we’re playing badly… I think we’re getting handcuffed.
If you're being hacked while you're shooting, yeah, you kind of can.
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Perfect end to the half
a blatant foul not called.
Jim Delaney is smiling.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 6:50 PM CST reply actions
Considering how little Draymond played and how poor the shooting is
being down 2 isn’t that bad
Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude
Amen to that
Unfortunately the same refs will come out in the second half and it’s clear they are not going to let Illinois lose.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 6:52 PM CST up reply actions
So the B10 can get as many teams in as possible
Illinois loses this game, they slip further off the bubble.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 6:55 PM CST up reply actions
I don't agree
If our shots start to fall, we’ll win
Memo to the Big 10
I get it. You need Illinois to win this game. You want as many NCAA Tournament teams as you can get. But this Illinois team sucks and are going to embarrass you in the tournament- why set yourselves up for that.
Just call it fair and let the best team win. It’s really not hard.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 6:53 PM CST reply actions
As much as you almost have a point about this game
would it kill you to talk about, well, anything else at all even once?
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by SpartanDan on Jan 31, 2012 6:55 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks!
I had taken him at his word, “I can’t watch anymore”
by spartanbballfan on Jan 31, 2012 6:57 PM CST up reply actions
no. please just stop with the conspiracy theories
They’re just painful to read, especially since that’s all you’re saying
Seeing data might be interesting
How often do games with large foul disparities occur for bubble teams vs. non-bubble teams
Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude
We haven't played well
but the effort on the boards is there. The shooting woes, especially on layups, does come down to no-calls.
Believe me, I’d rather be able to focus on the X and O’s but this is too uneven to make comparisons.
The rebounding has been amazing and is keeping us in the game. That’s a credit to Coach Izzo who seems to be able to get every group of guys to rebound.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 6:58 PM CST up reply actions
the shooting has been atrocious
Especially inside, and a lot of that is due to very physical play.
Its like has been said so many times on here & in sports in general, its ok to call a game tight, but just be consistent. Several whistles against MSU tonight have gone unblown on the other end
by MSUDersh on Jan 31, 2012 7:00 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Exactly
Everyone can get angry at me for talking about the refs, but all I’m asking for is consistency.
Remember the Wisconsin game where they had no fouls called for the first 10 minutes of the second half? If Wisconsin isn’t a physical team, I can live with that, but they are.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 7:04 PM CST up reply actions
I hear ya Les
But I don’t think its difficult to agree that there have been quite a few whistles that are described as “touch” fouls, and its also easy to agree that the whistles have gone overwhelmingly in one team’s favor.
The numbers and the eye test both say so.
by MSUDersh on Jan 31, 2012 7:03 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
There have been bad calls both ways. Illinois had a hand-check call at the end of the half after both teams hand-checked all game. Leonard’s foul on Nix was also the exact same thing that was not called all game.
by SpartanBoiler on Jan 31, 2012 7:04 PM CST up reply actions
I'll second SpartanBoiler
And just note that MSU has 2 more fouls than the Illini. And one of those was a technical.
well considering everything going against us,
Can’t hit a shot, illinois in the bonues w 11 minutes to go, and Green only playing like 8 minutes & getting shut out, the fact that were only down 2 & had a chance to tie ot take the lead going into the half reassures me that this game is winnable.
by MSUDersh on Jan 31, 2012 6:56 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Over/under:
On 15 minutes on the clock when Green picks up his fourth foul. What say you?
by Chitown Spartan on Jan 31, 2012 6:57 PM CST reply actions
He's a smart player
and he’ll want to make up for the technical. I’d be shocked if he didn’t step it up.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 7:00 PM CST up reply actions
Could see him playing great...
or beyond awful if he comes out and just tries to force things (As he has done in the past). He needs to just take what is available and make the most of it and not force up off-balance shots in hopes of drawing fouls.
Hopefully the Illini will keep jacking up poor shots
and he won’t have to play much defense.
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I hope he plays well
but with all he’s done in his career, I’ll give him a mulligan on this game.
He’s my second favorite Spartan hoopster to Mateen.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 7:05 PM CST up reply actions
speaking of football is maxwell going to do a good job filling for cousins?
"Be an analyst Skip dont be a douchebag"
-Terrel Suggs
Who knows?
He’s looked reasonable in mop-up duty, but the only way to know is to see it happen.
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Let's hope he learned a lot watching him.
Most people think he had the physical tools to succeed.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 7:08 PM CST up reply actions
wow AT in for Green
TI won’t let Burr decide this game
by MSUDersh on Jan 31, 2012 7:07 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Another air ball.
Holy hell.
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Wood take shots
Stop jumping w intention to pass. Just put it up
by MSUDersh on Jan 31, 2012 7:08 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Supposedly Green was throwing up all day
If we have a second half like the first, I’ll be throwing up as well.
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This game is an abomination in every sense.
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we can blame the refs all we want but there is no way we can win if we are shooting
only 21%
"Be an analyst Skip dont be a douchebag"
-Terrel Suggs
How many of those shots were off because we got hacked?
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true but we have been off on a lot of wide open shots
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-Terrel Suggs
Oh, for crying out loud.
If he’s mouthing off, T him up!
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Burr was looking to give the T
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 7:16 PM CST up reply actions
This lead could be insurmountable the way we are playing
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They missed a clear out
on Leonard there. Totally ridiculous.
by Chitown Spartan on Jan 31, 2012 7:12 PM CST reply actions
i think the refs need to worry less about
sportsmanship, and more about doing their job right.
Or call the T both ways, at least.
You can’t T up Green for that and then let the Illinois player run his mouth.
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by SpartanDan on Jan 31, 2012 7:14 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
You can do that if you're a B1G ref
"It's a trap!"
by AdmiralAkbar on Jan 31, 2012 7:16 PM CST up reply actions
Watching that Tech again
Burr was looking for it.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 7:14 PM CST reply actions
Tech is stupid...
Stupid rule.. head of officials should worry about refs getting calls right instead.
speaking of band aid "we are the world" is the worst song of all time
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That wasn't a 3?
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well we never saw his feet
The refs can review it at the timeout, though. Btw. Wtf is happening??
by MSUDersh on Jan 31, 2012 7:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Clock stopped in the middle of play for about 10 seconds.
Which means that that foul was after the 16 minute mark, so we’re at the TV timeout.
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Someone has nasty gas at the bar I'm at
And its not me
by MSUDersh on Jan 31, 2012 7:16 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Look for someone wearing Maize & Blue
;-)
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 7:17 PM CST up reply actions
I think its the one Illini fan
She’s huge
by MSUDersh on Jan 31, 2012 7:18 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
are you telling me someone from the chicago area might be obese?
im shocked shocked that u would say that
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-Terrel Suggs
yeah seriosly
Not like that plate of wings she housed helps her at all
by MSUDersh on Jan 31, 2012 7:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
If it is
it is for both teams. It really doesn’t make any sense since Illinois can’t want the game to come down to banging inside.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 7:18 PM CST up reply actions
wait, what?
Is it noiw officially overinflated? Tough to hear here & can’t rewind at the bar.
by MSUDersh on Jan 31, 2012 7:18 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
The announcers seem to think so.
Given the goofy bounces so far, I believe it. (Although if Dakich told me that the sky was blue, I’d go outside to check – and I’d expect to see it yellow.)
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How sad is it
that so much time has been given to that on the broadcast.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 7:20 PM CST up reply actions
So..
we’re doing unsportsmanlike calls for an emotional outburst not directed directly at someone.. but the ILlini play can run up to Trice and talk all sorts of trash and it’s just a warning?
Burr doesn't know that kid..
and didn’t have a grudge going back to last year when he T’d him up i guess.. makes sense..
Perhaps Burr felt that Green
As a senior, captain, and all out leader, should have known better.
by MSUDersh on Jan 31, 2012 7:19 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
If that's so, that's absolutely ridiculous.
Every player on the floor should be held to the same standard (regarding fouls and Ts).
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Sad thing is, you might not have been wrong.
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Someone on the RCMB reminded me of last year's OSU game
Where Burr’s crew gave OSU over 20 more free throw attempts. I was happier forgetting that game.
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it seems that indy has cooled off a little bit and isnt as hot as they used to be
"Be an analyst Skip dont be a douchebag"
-Terrel Suggs
Still
The jb Crean has done there is amazing, from 1-17 in the Big 10 a few years ago
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 7:23 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, forget leaving the cupboard empty.
Sampson didn’t even leave the cupboard there.
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If you were someone
in another part of the country, watching this game, what would you think of the Big 10 and their style of play?
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 7:22 PM CST reply actions
At least it's not the Wisconsin-PSU game last year.
Woof.
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We need a wet tshirt contest to liven this up
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Sorry Performance
Team doesn’t even look like thy want to be there… IllinoIs trying to give game to us but were playing worse
by MSUMC25 on Jan 31, 2012 7:24 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Illinois is playing good man-to-man defense
I can give them that much credit
Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude
we need goot AT right now
And not abysmal Draymond
by MSUDersh on Jan 31, 2012 7:25 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Good lord this is ugly
Draymond is out of sync completely
This is some of the sloppiest play I've seen
We’re not playing smart at all, we’re making terrible shot selections…
but we’re still in it.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 7:26 PM CST up reply actions
Four fouls on Egwu now.
Three in the last minute.
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And if I were an Illini fan
It would be my turn to bitch about the officials
Finally starting to call the fouls
That have been there all game.
by Chitown Spartan on Jan 31, 2012 7:26 PM CST reply actions
And now four on Green.
Only reason he didn’t get it before the 15 minute mark was because he didn’t play before then.
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Hate to say it
but may be better tonight without Green. He is way oof.
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Illinois is playing as spectacularly badly as we are.
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Warriors. Last years team would have packed it in already
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by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 7:28 PM CST up reply actions
Boy that was weak
That’s not “seeing what happens” – that’s just calling a foul because some guy is driving.
Dakich, you freaking idiot, they called a hand check before the shot.
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Dan Dakich, stop talking
Draymond clearly had his hand on the guy’s arm, it wasn’t a shooting foul
Brings back memories of the Iowa game a few years ago
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billy cundiff thats for bringing that memory up dakich
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-Terrel Suggs
Hope I didn't just jinx that
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 7:30 PM CST up reply actions
When was last time they hit a shot from the field?
by MSUDersh on Jan 31, 2012 7:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Feels like four days ago.
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Dammit.
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Will the score get the the upper 40's?
I have serious doubts.
by Chitown Spartan on Jan 31, 2012 7:30 PM CST reply actions
If only.
Hopefully the reset is Sunday v. Michigan.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 7:30 PM CST up reply actions
Wasn't there a game we lost at Iowa a few years back; the score was in the 30s and we had no free throw attempts
This is a little different, but it has the same feeling.
Except Iowa was horrible that year. Illinois is a decent team that is also playing bad.
by SpartanBoiler on Jan 31, 2012 7:32 PM CST up reply actions
I don't get why Illinois wouldn't just drive every time
When the refs will give them that call every time
Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude
we got to stop pulling a favre and having our passes intercepted all the time
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-Terrel Suggs
THAT WAS FLAGRANT
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Okay, maybe not. Looked worse the first time.
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Just happy with a foul call
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 7:34 PM CST up reply actions
That doesn't sound at all
like an Illinois crowd that has gotten used to getting every call.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 7:33 PM CST reply actions
Dawson has been our best player tonight
Not saying a lot considering how everyone is playing. But he has looked pretty good
Holy shit, Payne, how do you miss that?
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Holy shit, Dawson, how do you miss that?
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Holy shit, Payne, how do you miss that again?
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Call Something there
Anything. WTH?????
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 7:35 PM CST reply actions
It should not be possible to go up around the rim this often
And not make baskets or get fouls called.
I rarely comment here
but I frequently lurk. I decided to log in just to comment on how bad we are playing and how bad this game is. Awful, just awful.
It’s like watching Wisconsin play against Wisconsin.
why yes, I'm slightly drunk at the moment
by Mark in Chicago on Jan 31, 2012 7:37 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
Worse.
It’s like watching Todd Lickliter’s Iowa teams play each other.
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by SpartanDan on Jan 31, 2012 7:37 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Hey, this is a family blog. Let’s not fill it with such graphic images.
by SpartanBoiler on Jan 31, 2012 7:38 PM CST up reply actions
Two overtimes, maybe
why yes, I'm slightly drunk at the moment
by Mark in Chicago on Jan 31, 2012 7:40 PM CST up reply actions
And that's actually come UP from halftime.
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This is absurd
Somehow we’re only down 2. Can’t wait to hear what Izzo has to say about this game
by MSUDersh on Jan 31, 2012 7:37 PM CST via mobile reply actions
If we got hoops on 2 possessions in a row
We could pull this one out.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 7:39 PM CST reply actions
We're almost at a point a minute.
If we get to that, we might win.
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We're still in this.
This is one of the games you just have to fight through and put behind us.
Plus we have never played well here.
Remember last year
Can’t remember which game, Green bear-hugged Izzo to keep him from going at the official
Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude
This game might get into the high 30's
I stress “might”
by Chitown Spartan on Jan 31, 2012 7:40 PM CST reply actions
I am concerned
that we can’t make up a 5-point deficit in 8 minutes.
why yes, I'm slightly drunk at the moment
by Mark in Chicago on Jan 31, 2012 7:41 PM CST reply actions
Wisconsin plays a lot of ugly games
but nobody does ugly like Penn State. They’ve had two games in the past 4-5 years where they won with fewer than 40 points. Even Wisconsin hasn’t managed that.
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Are you surprised at the no call?
They also called traveling on Appling when he was getting bear hugged in the lane.
by Chitown Spartan on Jan 31, 2012 7:43 PM CST up reply actions
stevie wonder the guy from the sam bernstiein ads and helen keller
people that could shoot better than the spartans tonight for 300 Trebek
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-Terrel Suggs
Eh
It’s still better than class. Skipping class for any reason was always in order
by trivialstuff16 on Jan 31, 2012 7:43 PM CST up reply actions
Green has to hit these
We just need a quick 6-0 or 8-0 run and this is a totally different ballgame.
by MSUDersh on Jan 31, 2012 7:43 PM CST via mobile reply actions
would have been nice
To get out in transition and get an open 3 or a dunk while Brandon Paul was preening fort he crowd
They tried
Illinois has either gotten back quickly, or our guys are just tired.
Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude
There is almost a sense of urgency here.
I’m calling for a six point run.
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If we pound Illinois at home
this game loses all legitimacy.
And I suspect that is what will happen.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 7:45 PM CST reply actions
We don't play them at home.
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Ball don't lie.
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this is by far the worst game ive watched this year
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-Terrel Suggs
I was at the Illinois-PSU game in ... 2008, I think
that ended 38-33. So I think I “win”, unless you went to the Big Ten tourney last year.
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I'm positive there was a foul on that block-out.
No idea whether it was on us or them, but there’s no chance that was clean.
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I can't believe we only have 15 turnovers
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 7:48 PM CST reply actions
you know how sometimes you get a feeling when the ball is released
That it is for sure going to go in? Either because of momentum or a good shooter or whatever?
I have not had that feeling once this game. For either team
It might take five minutes for the six point run
but we can do it.
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this game has been more painful than watching a marathon of adam sandler movies
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-Terrel Suggs
We are winning.
/head asplode
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That's what a senior leader does
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by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 7:50 PM CST reply actions
In which sense?
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Why am I not shocked
to find that I think Green also got fouled on that shot? Think Paul wrapped around his waste
Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude
At this point
I just thank the gods it went down
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 7:52 PM CST up reply actions
it worked the last time
I’m calling for us to extend the run by six points.
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Some games are played at such a high level neither team deserves to lose
this is like one of those games, only the exact opposite
by trivialstuff16 on Jan 31, 2012 7:51 PM CST reply actions 5 recs
Here's to Weber
Coming down with a sudden, nasty case of Zookitis.
by MSUDersh on Jan 31, 2012 7:51 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Dersh
you always nail it.
Lol
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 7:52 PM CST up reply actions
He thinks he's in the NBA already
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 7:53 PM CST up reply actions
I read a lot today
on State blogs about how he’s considered a lottery pick if he comes out.
Not saying I agree (because I don’t)
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 7:56 PM CST up reply actions
well its like they day, you can't coach height
On a related note, you apparently can’t coaxh meyers leonard, either
by MSUDersh on Jan 31, 2012 8:01 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
This is the score I expect
atr a HS girl’s bb game
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Not Serious about winning
Team has really shown it’s immaturity and clearly isn’t ready for big games and to win the Big Ten. My expectations have officially been tempered for the year. God I miss Lucas pre-Achilles he wouldn’t let us lose a game like this he would have taken the game over and not hid like Day Day
by MSUMC25 on Jan 31, 2012 7:53 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Beginning with your failure to use an article to introduce the subject of the sentence.
And then with everything else too.
Respectfully disagree
Last year’s team would have mailed this one in.
Nice to see them battling despite all of the obstacles tonight.
Green’s sick and he’s barely played due to some bogus fouls. I can’t question his leadership.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 7:55 PM CST up reply actions
We just fought through a historically bad shooting night to take the lead
What about that makes you think the team isn’t hungry to win?
by Chitown Spartan on Jan 31, 2012 7:56 PM CST up reply actions
I don't think it's possible for a statement to be more at right angles to reality than that one is.
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Wouldn't shock me if he's really got the flu and has been puking
I imagine staying hydrated and such would be hard
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Probably cramps. That will happen if you're sick.
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Although cramps don't usually result in a guy hopping on one foot.
Shit.
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yeah, it looked a bit weird
His legs looked crossed up
Cramp for Green here?
Everyone watch out for Iowa fans showing up bitching about faking injuries
I dont know why everyone here is talking about how poor this game is. we think its great
- Detroit Pistons
"Be an analyst Skip dont be a douchebag"
-Terrel Suggs
bahahahahahaha
Seriously though. The Pistons suck. I am a fan, so it’s not fun. But they really suck
by trivialstuff16 on Jan 31, 2012 7:57 PM CST up reply actions
Leonard knocked his own player down
How is that not a foul?
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 7:58 PM CST reply actions
HAHAHAHAHAHAAH WHAT A FAILED DUNK
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-Terrel Suggs
by Alex Baker on Jan 31, 2012 7:59 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Oh no
Joe Rexrode is behind the bench and says he thinks Green’s injury is a knee not a cramp.
How sucky would that be?
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 7:59 PM CST reply actions
He's on the bench stretching though
Not behaving like a catastrophic knee injury at least. maybe a sprain or something?
by trivialstuff16 on Jan 31, 2012 8:00 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I don’t think they do that if it is super serious.
by SpartanBoiler on Jan 31, 2012 8:01 PM CST up reply actions
I’m sure Linkliter’s kid is still in pain from that blocking call two years ago.
by SpartanBoiler on Jan 31, 2012 8:01 PM CST up reply actions
We can win without Green
we just have to hold the other team under 40 points.
why yes, I'm slightly drunk at the moment
by Mark in Chicago on Jan 31, 2012 8:01 PM CST reply actions
Definitely not a cramp. They weren’t stretching it out like you would a cramp.
by SpartanBoiler on Jan 31, 2012 8:02 PM CST up reply actions
foot looked like it was on the line
Good timeout Izzo to let them review it.
by MSUDersh on Jan 31, 2012 8:02 PM CST via mobile reply actions
You assume they will. That's asking a lot of this ref crew.
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For some reason i thought his foot might be on the line
Just wishful thinking? they don’t appear to be looking at it.
5 from Green, 4 from Appling
How are we still in it? Dawson.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 8:03 PM CST reply actions
Dawson picked up for Draymond
Unfortunately we needed one more step up
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I'm looking for AT to win it at the buzzer
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Yeah, that's a foul.
Can’t hold your arms over the guy.
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Foul?
Yep. That’s par with what’s been going on here all night.
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by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 8:04 PM CST reply actions
Oh my god. He got the ball
And was goign straight up
Not really. He got forced straight up because his arms were over Paul when he shot.
Don’t like it, but that one was legit.
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I agree
Came down with the body; people often forget that body contact is part of the analysis, even if it’s “all ball.”
please no overtime
I can’t take more bad basketball
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by Mark in Chicago on Jan 31, 2012 8:05 PM CST reply actions
We need to go fast
The way we’ve been shooting, we can’t settle for last shot. We very likely will need to rebound
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agree
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by Mark in Chicago on Jan 31, 2012 8:06 PM CST up reply actions
if we want a title or 3/4 seed
can’t lose to UM, NW, and ILL on the road. Sorry but those are ones that need to be won, if you are a contender.
Are you crazy?
The 2009 team lost AT HOME to NW and Penn State. And got a 2 seed and a conference title by four games.
This is a hideous, hideous game but would not be an awful loss (outside of the context of how ugly this game has been). And lest we forget, Ohio State lost here.
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This loss isn't the issue
The NW is.
by Chitown Spartan on Jan 31, 2012 8:12 PM CST up reply actions
dude it's not 2009
MSU is not going to win the B1G by 4 games. The toughest part of the schedule is yet to come. That’s why we need to beat UM, Ill, NW on the road, because we’re not going to beat OSU, Indiana on the road, and we’ll probably drop a couple more at home.
If we lose a couple more at home, then yes we won't win the B1G
Indiana has come waaay back to Earth. that game is just as winnable as this game or teh UM game were
by trivialstuff16 on Jan 31, 2012 8:18 PM CST up reply actions
Look, I know we're supposed to be colloquial with each other and all
Even if our presumed “rapport” is manufactured.
But don’t call him “dude.”
You think we're going to lose "a couple more" at home (neglecting that we haven't lost ANY at home yet)?
You have not been watching the same team I have.
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Not likely to lose a couple more at home
But with WI and OSU coming in, and games at OSU, Minn, and Purdue we will likely struggle on the road.
Nothing wrong with dude. The dude abides.
by Chitown Spartan on Jan 31, 2012 8:20 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not particularly impressed with Minnesota or Purdue.
I think we can, and should, win both of those. Indiana is a toss-up (they seem to have come back down to earth, and their defense leaves a lot to be desired). The only road game left that we’re a serious underdog in is at OSU.
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This game would be a painful loss.
Such an ugly game.. can’t have it be for nothing.
UGGH just end this fucking so i can immediately erase it from memory
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-Terrel Suggs
Horrible shot selection.
Really, that’s the best play we can run?
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Come on
Nothing going towards the basket at all
All 3 pointers by appling = terrible..
he’s like 23%
Just some really bad possessions lately
Gotta credit Illinois D though
Missed front end. Still have a chance.
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Not with the way this game has been called
We won’t get the call
by Chitown Spartan on Jan 31, 2012 8:09 PM CST up reply actions
Illinois has played great defense
They’ve been very good at denying entry
Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude
gotta get a buicket here
Doesn’t have to be a three, just get pts and count on illinois missing
by MSUDersh on Jan 31, 2012 8:09 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Still no weight on the leg from draymond
That is not good
"MSU, if both free throws are made, will probably try a 3."
You think so, Doctor?
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he learned from the madden school of broadcasting
"Be an analyst Skip dont be a douchebag"
-Terrel Suggs
To be fair, that assumption was not valid for Minnesota over the weekend.
And Illinois stupidly bailed them out by fouling while the guy made a layup.
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Another missed front end!
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wow
With the ball. chance to win after all of this. Please get a bucket
Can't ask for much more
out of this game than a shot to win it at the end.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 8:12 PM CST reply actions
Again
Dersh, you always nail it.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 8:29 PM CST up reply actions
They called the jump ball WAY before time ran out.
At least 1 second on the clock.
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No
Of course he didn’t get fouled
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 8:13 PM CST reply actions
this figures
nothing normal about this game. and appling had a decent look but couldn’t make it
Goodbye big ten title hopes...
can’ say MSU didn’t have their chances…
Four losses will win the Big Ten this year.
If we lose at OSU and no others, I don’t trust OSU to win all of their remaining games other than at MSU.
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Do you really expect us to lose to no one else?
That’s really hard to believe this year.
by Chitown Spartan on Jan 31, 2012 8:15 PM CST up reply actions
No one in the B10 this year is going to win out.
Everyone is vulnerable on the right night. Even OSU.
yeah I would love to see us w only 3 or 4 losses
But not happening. That is the second 50/50 road game we’ve blown.
Conversely, our asshile friends in AA have won at least two 50/50 B1G games.
Those end up being the difference between conference titles & near misses.
by MSUDersh on Jan 31, 2012 8:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
4 would take a little bit of luck, true.
But there’s a difference between “a little bit of luck” and “we’re completely out of the running”.
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but UM has only won one on the road
We haven’t even played a 50/50 home game yet.
This was a major hit, and we now need the best team to stumble ahead of us. But it’s not out of the question.
by trivialstuff16 on Jan 31, 2012 8:20 PM CST up reply actions
no we havent
And yeah we have one more road win than them, but eright now we’re in 4th & yhey’re tied for 2nd, and they have momentum while we have our best player banged up w an unknown injury.
by MSUDersh on Jan 31, 2012 8:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
They're 6-3 just like we are.
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Nope. Got crushed by OSU this weekend.
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jeez
decent shot, but of course it doesn’t fall.
can’t forget this game fast enough
why yes, I'm slightly drunk at the moment
by Mark in Chicago on Jan 31, 2012 8:14 PM CST reply actions
You should probably find more balance in your life.
by SpartanBoiler on Jan 31, 2012 8:15 PM CST up reply actions
awful Spartan game --->binge drinking
Makes perfect sense to me!
The Tin Lizzie on Clark & I all raise our glasses to you in Spartan solidarity.
by MSUDersh on Jan 31, 2012 8:21 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Well, Big Ten title probably out of reach
Let’s hope Green can get healthy because there is still a lot to fight for.
by Chitown Spartan on Jan 31, 2012 8:14 PM CST reply actions
We're ONE GAME out.
And we get two cracks at the only team ahead of us. This is by no means out of reach.
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I realize that but the schedule ahead is very difficult
And OSU is a better team than we are, we can’t count on a whole lot of losses from them. Winning a title means taking advantage of the winnable road games, and we’ve dropped three of them now.
by Chitown Spartan on Jan 31, 2012 8:16 PM CST up reply actions
agreed
have to win the ones you should win
Let's just stop talking about it after every game.
The only game I care about at any time is the next one.
I believe in the 24 hour rule
In all but exceptional cases.
Here, we’re looking at about 23.8 more hours.
by MSUDersh on Jan 31, 2012 8:22 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
All I am saying is that we probably won't win the title
And we will look back on this game, UM and NW and regret not picking up at least one of them
by Chitown Spartan on Jan 31, 2012 8:18 PM CST up reply actions
I think that is a reasonable assumption
considering the schedule.
But coming into the year, I would have taken 17-5 at this point.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 8:19 PM CST up reply actions
Probably won't win it, I can believe.
“Out of reach”, I can’t.
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we could have been playing Wisconsin
aside from that, no
by trivialstuff16 on Jan 31, 2012 8:15 PM CST up reply actions
Not a fun game, but I just hope Green is all right.
If he only gets one more shot at Michigan, I hope he’s 100% for it.
I have to feel like
he’ll be there and make the most of it.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 8:19 PM CST up reply actions
That was awful
I hope there are no more games on ESPN on Super F-ing Tuesday.
"Long range from the baseline, Swish!"
We just couldn't make shots
Not that we didn’t make some other mistakes, but we could have won big if we just shot 35%. We ended up at 24.1% for the game. We’ve played very efficiently on offense this year so (hopefully) this game was just an ugly blip on the radar.
Hopefully Draymond is ok too.
That Illinois team
is not a tournament team.
I don’t care what anyone says. No quality road wins. One quality win against OSU and it takes 43 from Paul.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 8:18 PM CST reply actions
Were we watching the same game?
Quality and this game can’t be used in the same sentence.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 8:20 PM CST up reply actions
No one will remember the details of this game in 6 weeks, though.
it’ll just look like a gutty B10 win against a top 10 team.
Without their best player for most of the game
and questionable officiating at best.
Not a surprise the Big 10 flames out every year in the tourney.
Except for Tom Izzo coached teams.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 8:23 PM CST up reply actions
Selection Sunday isn't for another 6 weeks or so.
If all it takes is one decent road win, they have the rest o the resume down.
Besides which, it's just kind of bad form
to take a hard loss by saying to the other guys, “whatever, your team sucks.”
Whatever
You can base it on how Illinois played. Which wasn’t good.
You make you Living at being a contrarian. Good luck with that.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 8:24 PM CST up reply actions
I do disagree with you a lot.
I don’t mean it personally. I look for positive takeaways out of being a sports fan, even (and perhaps especially) after a loss. I understand not everyone sees it the same way.
Nothing personal
I’m just a pessimist by trait. Ask my boss, it serves us well in my job.
I have a feeling we both love MSU as much, I just take it a different way.
Please, never get me wrong. I am proud as hell to be a Spartan fan, and can’t imagine being prouder of a group of fine young men than I am this year.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 8:32 PM CST up reply actions
- in the RPI before the game. 16-6 and 5-4 in the best conference. Wins over OSU and MSU. PSU is the only bad loss.
I have no Idea what you smoke when you post on here, but it must be good.
by SpartanBoiler on Jan 31, 2012 8:23 PM CST up reply actions
That should be Number 37, not 1. Autoformatting mistake.
by SpartanBoiler on Jan 31, 2012 8:24 PM CST up reply actions
Home wins
What is their quality road win?
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 8:25 PM CST up reply actions
I didn’t know a quality road win was a prerequisite to being in the tournament.
They’ve only played five true road games this year and have plenty of chances (IU, UW, OSU, UM) to pick one up.
by SpartanBoiler on Jan 31, 2012 8:28 PM CST up reply actions
It has been a barometer in the past
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 8:29 PM CST up reply actions
Quality wins and road wins, not necessarily at the same time.
Especially with the bubble as weak as it’s been the last couple years. (Also, strength of schedule matters a lot, and Illinois has that – UNLV, Missouri, and Gonzaga in non-con is pretty solid.)
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The weak bubble does help
no Doubt. Good point. I didn’t say they won’t get in, I just think they are average most years.
I really do like Bruce Weber. Illinois is a hard place to win, especially since they can’t get a player out of Chicago.
But that team has tons of holes.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 8:33 PM CST up reply actions
Oh, I don't think they're a serious threat to go past the first weekend.
Maybe the Sweet 16 with a lucky draw (or if Paul decides to go off like he did on OSU again), but that’s it.
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You don't always need one.
We didn’t really have one last year. (Purdue on a neutral court, I guess.)
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Is it time to worry about our guards
I thought BK should’ve played more.
Looked like Dawson was the only one that showed up.
"Long range from the baseline, Swish!"
Yeah, this seemed like a game where Kearney could come in and make a few shots. I’m not sure why he didn’t get a few more minutes.
by SpartanBoiler on Jan 31, 2012 8:24 PM CST up reply actions
Izzo doesn't like to rely on freshman
in Big games. And he seems to know what he is doing based on the 400 wins.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 8:26 PM CST up reply actions
Here’s what you said earlier tonight:
Here come Kearney
Let’s see if he can spark us like he has been doing
by SpartanBoiler on Jan 31, 2012 8:29 PM CST up reply actions
How is that contradictory?
I like Kearney, think he’ll be a great player, but I don’t doubt Izzo’s method of bringing along Freshman. Seems to have worked in the past.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 8:34 PM CST up reply actions
During the game, you said Kearney can provide a spark. After the game, I said I thought Kearney could have provided a spark. You tried to call me out on my statement through a snarky comment of your own even though it we said the same thing.
by SpartanBoiler on Jan 31, 2012 8:37 PM CST up reply actions
I didn't call you out on that
You are totally right. Kearney seems like he could be a spark.
I am just not questioning Izzo for his handling of the freshman (I didn’t read your comment as doing that either).
He has a plan for them and it seems to have worked in the past. I’d love to see Guana get moe minutes, too, but that would be a-typical for freshman under Izzo.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 8:43 PM CST up reply actions
Trice actually hit a couple shots
Which had izzo keeping him out there I think.
Though I would agree that with Wood apparently being sick, and definitely being ineffective I cuold have seen Kearney getting more of his time
by trivialstuff16 on Jan 31, 2012 8:27 PM CST up reply actions
Appling has struggled a bit recently
His outside shot is way off, which I think is making teams play off him. He has looked out of sync
by trivialstuff16 on Jan 31, 2012 8:26 PM CST up reply actions
Lots of time
for him to get it together.
I’d be shocked if this team has peaked already, and they are 17-5.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 8:27 PM CST up reply actions
He is shooting 28% from 3 point land for the year...
and i think he’s worse in conference play. Kid needs to stop taking 3s.
Yea it has been ugly for him from outside
The flip side is he shot .411 from 3 last year.
Granted, he was a much later option last year, which probably got him better looks. But I would still say we could reasonably expect some regression to the mean for him.
by trivialstuff16 on Jan 31, 2012 8:30 PM CST up reply actions
Leading the team as a point guard
has put a lot more on his plate. I have to believe he’ll be ready in March to step his game up.
His defense is great, usually, but he did have some lapses tonight.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 8:36 PM CST up reply actions
BK completely nonexistent today
Gauna barely played, no Byrd, with as poorly as we played on O, its ok to exoeriment w lineups a little. Its not like illinois could do anything either
by MSUDersh on Jan 31, 2012 8:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Wish we got more out of the freshman
but it’s typical of past years. Gotta think Izzo has them ready by tourney time.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 8:28 PM CST up reply actions
Can see Dawson improving
Hopefully the others start to join him
by trivialstuff16 on Jan 31, 2012 8:31 PM CST up reply actions
yeah but good way to get them ready is with pt in crunch time
Green was out hurt, appling totally ineffective, paynix neutralized, really Dawson & TT only two who plauyed well IMO (AT had a nice putback, too).
Might as well shake things up & let the kids make something happen. We lost today playing the vets, its not like losing w the frosh counts twice.
by MSUDersh on Jan 31, 2012 8:34 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
might be
Coach Izzo really hammering on Appling in the postgame show.
He didn’t seem like he wanted to be out there tonight.
Reminds me of Raymar.
Always looked like he wanted to be somewhere else.
"Long range from the baseline, Swish!"
sick of Izzo hammering his players in the media
show some damn professionalism and have your players’ backs. If I’m a potential recruit, I’m not impressed. And you know what, if he was playing bad, be a coach and replace him with Trice.
and it's not like Coach Izzo had his A game tonight either
a leader looks within for blame, not outward to others.
Stop saying shit I agree with
At least I find your rationale to be off base. So there’s that.
by WatersDemos on Jan 31, 2012 8:31 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't necessarily disagree
That I would think this could be handled in house.
But I don’t really think this is a new development. He’s always been brutally honest with the media. Remember him leaving Mo Pete at home for Maui? ANd explaining it by essentially saying he needs to decide if he wants to be serious about basektball.
It’s his style, Guys know it coming in.
by trivialstuff16 on Jan 31, 2012 8:35 PM CST up reply actions
I thought that was Nix?
Or has it happened multiple times?
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He did it with Nix recently
But did it with Mopete his junior year I believe way back in the day.
by trivialstuff16 on Jan 31, 2012 8:42 PM CST up reply actions
Ok google to the rescue
happened Peterson’s freshman year apparently.
The point was more that Izzo has never been that shy about speaking his mind when guys aren’t playing well on, or off the court. Nor is he shy about praising them when they deserve it. So basically, Izzo says what he thinks i guess is the moral of the story
by trivialstuff16 on Jan 31, 2012 8:45 PM CST up reply actions
Izzo should stop criticizing his players publicly.
Just do coachspeak and leave. Preserve the self perception of your students.
Coachspeak just not in his dna
For good or for bad, it is what it is. But both teams played hard, and tomorrow is another fay. Plus this only counts as one.
by MSUDersh on Jan 31, 2012 8:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'm surprised at him calling guys out
but his track record proves there is a method to the madness.
They will be ready in March. Does anyone doubt that?
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 8:37 PM CST up reply actions
It's too bad one of these teams had to win.
Won’t be watching the replay.
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Wood go to Bench
Appling needs to become out closer because Draymond will never be that. Unless by an act of god we sweep OSU B1G hopes are gone because we simply don’t have a player with any balls to close out a game. Wood is the worst player in the B1G and he should sit and we should just start developing BK.
by MSUMC25 on Jan 31, 2012 8:31 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I assume by “worst” you mean “most efficient,” right?
by SpartanBoiler on Jan 31, 2012 8:33 PM CST up reply actions
Wood has been regressing as of late
But still has been above average so far, and contributed to some early season wins.
Appling was the dagger earlier this season, remember the Wisc game? Not sure what’s been happening as of late, but his game not the dame, on either end of the floor.
by MSUDersh on Jan 31, 2012 8:38 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Problem is Wood and Appling both deciding to play worse and worse
at the same time. or at least it feels that way right now.
Yeah. Before tonight, Wood was ninth in offensive efficiency, so I should have said “one of the most efficient.” Still posters like MSUMC25 need to calm down and show, at least, a very basic level of support for an over-achieving team.
by SpartanBoiler on Jan 31, 2012 8:39 PM CST up reply actions
These are the types of comments I like to pretend do not infect my school's fanbase.
This ruined a perfectly convenient fiction.
Dammit.
That may be overstating it.
But there’s no denying the more regrettable parts of our fanbase.
I suppose that at least partially explains why we’re here at TOC.
We have to stop obsessing about them.
Why we give them any consideration in Basketball is a dumbfounding as them getting so worked up about us beating them in football. It would take like 30 wins in a row for us to even the football series with them, yet their fans still parade that ridiculous “Spartan Tears Taste Like Sugar” sign at the Sugar Bowl. Seems like they could have been content with the bCS berth, yet they still obsess. Crazy.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 8:40 PM CST up reply actions
Why?
It seems like, at this junction, both schools can be pretty proud of their teams.
I’m done feeling inferior to them. True Michigan fans, like my boss, acknowledge that us both having success is good for the state.
(That doesn’t mean I can root for them vs. anyone except Ohio St and Wisconsin) :-)
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 8:45 PM CST up reply actions
ND is outside the family
(I consider B10 teams family)
The only non-Big10 team I root against in Basketball is Kentucky, and that is because they are cheating and sold their soul (and proud basketball tradition) by hiring a coach wh has already had two final four appearances vacated due to cheating.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 8:51 PM CST up reply actions
totally with you on Kentucky
But ND is all-time hate – Digger made sure of that
by MSUDersh on Jan 31, 2012 9:13 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
and Doug Gottlieb, too
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 9:15 PM CST up reply actions
I generally agree.
I even wrote a post with Nietzschean overtones on the topic.
I was just feeling so fucking manly at the time.
That's twice I've resisted the temptation to quote Billy Madison at you.
I don’t think I can do so three times.
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well they do run layup lines every game
But those usuallly don’t involve getting hacked all the time. So I could see where the work is needed.
Note to Izzo: have the football team’s defensive front 7 manhandle the layup line.
by MSUDersh on Jan 31, 2012 8:49 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I hate being optimistic
(you all should know that by now)
but….
I look at this game as an aberration, a blip on the radar, if you will.
We lost by 1, on the road, without our senior leader, and with questionable( the kindest word I can find) officiating.
I’d rather lose a few now and peak in March. it’s what we are about.
And I trust 100% that Coach Izzo and a leader like Draymond will have these guys ready then. It’s really all that matters.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 8:54 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I agree
Nothing good ever happens in that mushroom known as Assembly Hall.
But that assumes Green can play.
Nobody seems to know what’s wrong with his leg yet.
"Long range from the baseline, Swish!"
I'm watching the Wisc-PSU game, apparently they have an announcement of some sort on the BTN postgame show about it.
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Return of the Rodents
Bucky about to leap into 2nd place.
This night sucks about as much as I thought it would.
"Long range from the baseline, Swish!"
F.M.L.:
“@joerexrode: Green just limped off on crutches with a big ice pack on his left knee. Didn’t want to talk to reporters. Further evaluation in morning.”
by MSUDersh on Jan 31, 2012 8:59 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Dammit all.
This looked like a potential Final Four season. If Green is seriously hurt, that’s probably not true anymore.
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Ugh
I was just going to cut and paste that, too.
Green’s a great kid and deserves some good karma. Hope now is the time it comes.
I Bleed Green.
by eriksmithdotcom on Jan 31, 2012 9:01 PM CST up reply actions
Telling Stat
Our total assists tonight – 4
Of course with all those missed layups, lots of potential assists thrown away.
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Yeah, that's more of a "we can't shoot" stat than anything else.
I’m not sure we had points that weren’t a putback or free throws.
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That's one ugly boxscore all the way around
2008 @ Iowa ugly
6’10 AP goes 3 for 10. Ugh.
Dawson has every right to go all Dwight Howard on his teammates tonight.
"Long range from the baseline, Swish!"
Absolutely
Dawsin was a man tonight. Did everything asked of him and then some.
TT looked like the best of all the guards.
Paynix got some #’s, but overall played very poorly IMO.
Green nonexistent, maybe the flu, maybe the fouls, obviously the knee late, but whatever the reason, he didn’t show up.
AT played fair, had a nicve putback but otherwise very quiet.
Gauna & BK each had a couple of minutes of nothing.
Is that everybody?
by MSUDersh on Jan 31, 2012 9:38 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I thought Paynes defense was superior
and TT took several horrendously bad shots. That had to drive Coach Izzo nuts.
That is such good news!
Such a promising season with him, don’t want to think about it without him.
by Chitown Spartan on Jan 31, 2012 9:35 PM CST up reply actions
Don't think that's news..
so much as wishful thinking on Draymond’s part. Hoping for the best right now, expecting the worst.
ANY BODY HAVE NEWS ON THE KNEE?????
I’m in Miami and I’ve had a few too many vodka gimlets. I came back to the computer and heard:
(1) MSU lost; and
(2) Green is all hurt.
HOW IS THE KNEE?
Wood - Clarification
He is the most efficient because he only takes 6 shots a game and makes 2 of them. He plays scarred, can’t create his own shot, and when he does get a look instead of being aggressive looks to pass it right back out.
He is clearly over-matched going against Big Ten competition and having a SG avg 6 points in B1G play is not acceptable.
Sorry as an MSU Alumn I don’t just accept being a mediocre Big Ten team like the most of you seem too. I will call a spade a spade, when they play well I’ll be the first to give them praise when they put out that BS I am going to be hard on them.
Late game
Gotta say I disagree with the decision to call TO after the Illini player missed the FT & we got the ball back w 10 seconds to go.
Should have pushed & gone for the quick basket, if we make it we’re up and Illinois gets the ball w a running clock & no timeouts. Plus the TO let them set up their D.
If you miss, you can foul Illinois w like 5 seconds left if they get the board, and still have that to in pocket down no more than 3; likewise, if msu boards its own miss can call TO then.
I know this may seem nitpicky, and there are dozens of reasons msu lost that game, but at the end, that timeout & subsequent sequence didn’t win it.
by MSUDersh on Jan 31, 2012 11:35 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Endgame unkind
This is kind of the opposite of the remorse following the UM game when a TO wasn’t called for fear they would switch to a zone.
Execution out of time outs has been terrible so probably better to just let em play.
Either way, need more practice finishing close games.
It just hasn’t gone well yet.
"Long range from the baseline, Swish!"
I'm glad I missed the second half
I covered a high school game today where the teams scored more points than these two teams. Christ, that was bad. If Green is hurt now I think I’m going to be very sad.
"I believe in a good kick in the ass. This— I believe. " -- Walker Percy
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watched the game on replay--have avoided coming to TOC until now, but
2 things to take away—
1. We’re in deep u-no-what if Green is out for an extended period. (Nothing like stating the obvious). Dawson will collect most of his Rebs, but his points??? At least we might make fewer turnovers.
2. The only way a game consists of the home team missing a million outside shots and the visiting team missing a million inside shots is when there is a lot of fouling occurring that’s not being whistled. Nuf’ said about that. Makes for a horrible game to watch. Impossible to actually play basketball when your always being pushed, slammed, hacked and tossed around. Went both ways, but felt like we got the short end of the foul calls since refs refused to call fouls on our shots for the first 35 minutes (or maybe all 40 minutes).
Draymond update:
From @ESPNAndyKatz:
Andy Katz From MSU. Draymond Green has a knee sprain, nothing worse after MRI. He is day-to-day. Spartans don’t play until Sunday against Michigan.
Does that mean
that Draymond is day-to-DayDay?
why yes, I'm slightly drunk at the moment
by Mark in Chicago on Feb 1, 2012 1:12 PM CST up reply actions
Really?
I’m actually hoping there won’t be one.
This is one time I welcome Pete and the guys being too busy to write something.
I’d love the chance to un-see that debacle.
"Long range from the baseline, Swish!"
I know dude
I hated this game but I still want to read postgame coverage. I don’t subscribe to many of the stats sites and what not so their analysis is the best I get.
I was kind of joking
But it looks like they really did forego the recap.
OK guys, Draymond is going to be OK.
No need to continue the seance, we’re ready for new content now…
Anybody…
Bueller…
"Long range from the baseline, Swish!"
I just put it up.
Didn’t have any time yesterday; since it still wasn’t up I decided to write a very short one.
I've got this terrible pain in all the diodes down my left-hand side.
Bradley-Terry rankings for college football and basketball: because there aren't enough computer rankings already.
Good to get those ones out early
We all know that the team is young and it certainly is still going through a growth process. Izzo teams tend to have these bad offensive nights a couple of nights through the season. It is a valuable experience and it will only sharpen the team come March.
A couple of things:
- Branden Dawson has arrived! The kid finally looks confident and healthy aswell. Good to see after we were worrying about him just a couple of weeks ago. If he starts to develop an outside shot, wow, the sky is the limit… that spin move he made was unbelievable.
- Payne and Nix still have stone hands from time to time, especially Payne. It was inexcusable for him to miss that many layups and fumble the ball around all the time. He just has to get stronger with the ball. His defense was good though against Leonard.
- I think Trice looked bad outside of that corner three he hit. He is still confident which I like but his physical limitations start to show. He just is not big or fast enough to constantly put pressure on the defense.
- The defense at times was spectacular. We did a great job at switching, fighting over screens and of denying the post. Of course it also helped that Illinois was missing everything left and right but part of that was forced.
- All in all, without DayDay, our lack of offensive playmakers really showed yesterday. Nix is a viable post option but when Appling is off, almost nobody can or looks to create for himself. Which is ok but people still have to make plays. Be it by cutting or passing or whatever.
- Floor spacing overall was a desaster among so many other things. But as I said above, a tough day like yesterday will only help to develop this team for bigger tasks in March.
- Jim Burr and his crew were a joke as usual. Full of themselves and made the game all about them. It is inexcusable to have as many stoppages (time issues, cuts etc.) and ticky tack off the ball fouls. They killed the entire flow of the game and made it looked as if a Big Ten game is run by a bunch of loaded boozers!
Best wishes to DayDay, get well soon!
by Flaming Mo on Feb 1, 2012 1:49 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I miss The Only Colors
Any content in our future?
by Crosseyed on Feb 2, 2012 8:43 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
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